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DarthPorg36 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:37 am

Regardless, I'd just like to know what questions are true and what are not, so I can reassess what we're looking at for information and how many questions we have left

Moving on from the first question, be careful with how the questions are phrased. At least one answer may surprise players once the identity of our mystery figure is revealed.

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:54 am

This game is getting frustrating. A while back a QM told us the subject was in the Politburo during WW2, when in fact he was appointed in 1946. Now the QM tells us he is "living" and we cannot trust that that in fact means he is, you know, living?

As the QM from that game I looked back in that thread and: the question was about ministerial rank, which Beria, in my opinion, had. The problem here is my interpretation of the list of examples provided, which I interpreted to be including but not limited to, not as the only set of possibilities.

Now, I can see the latter interpretation making sense and potentially being the correct interpretation. English is not my native language and it’s easy for me to miss nuances like this. Regardless, I will apologise for misunderstanding the question and having thrown you of guard acknowledging that my interpretation might just have been wrong.

I’m not going to guess him because I already used mine and I’ve already missed obvious details. Patrice Lumumba fits all the criteria including that I can’t figure out his height. If someone can figure it out, maybe it’s a good guess.

modderpoel wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:40 am

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:54 am

This game is getting frustrating. A while back a QM told us the subject was in the Politburo during WW2, when in fact he was appointed in 1946. Now the QM tells us he is "living" and we cannot trust that that in fact means he is, you know, living?

As the QM from that game I looked back in that thread and: the question was about ministerial rank, which Beria, in my opinion, had. The problem here is my interpretation of the list of examples provided, which I interpreted to be including but not limited to, not as the only set of possibilities.

Now, I can see the latter interpretation making sense and potentially being the correct interpretation. English is not my native language and it’s easy for me to miss nuances like this. Regardless, I will apologise for misunderstanding the question and having thrown you of guard acknowledging that my interpretation might just have been wrong.

That explanation makes sense. Luckily for me, the Wikipedia article on the Soviet Politburo during that time was really confusingly written, and made it seem like Beria was there during the War.

And honestly, I understand this mistake too. I can see glossing over the word "living".

JECE wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:25 pm

modderpoel wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:48 pm

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:45 pm

The first question specified "living".

Thank you

Hmm, I did not read the first question as necessarily asking about somebody who is currently alive; I read it more like 'real live human'.

"Living" explicitly means not dead. Your answer was misleading if the person is dead. You should clarify if they are alive or dead.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pm

JECE wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:25 pm

modderpoel wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:48 pm

Thank you

Hmm, I did not read the first question as necessarily asking about somebody who is currently alive; I read it more like 'real live human'.

"Living" explicitly means not dead. Your answer was misleading if the person is dead. You should clarify if they are alive or dead.

It was a five-part question (presumably, since the author of the question hasn't complained) and I answered yes to four parts of the question. Plus you've already narrowed it down a lot with useful questions.

So I believe we have:

1. Real human (who is probably dead) more than 5 feet tall born in a country with 1 million plus present-day inhabitants.

2. Not born in Eurasia or North America.

3. known for serving in government, for being a military leader, for being an athlete, or for being a scientist, broadly defined (including mathematics and social sciences) or an inventor

4. South American or African

5. Not born north of the Equator

6. Not female

7. Known for being a governmental or military role

8. Current or former head of state and/or head of government

9. Did not hold a government role in a country where Spanish or Portuguese is an official language.

10. Not a Head of state/government for at least some time after the end of 2005.

11. Not head of state for South Africa, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Madagascar, Lesotho, Eswatini, Malawi, or the Comoros.

12. Born after 1800.

Is he a dead person primarily associated with an African country that was also the country of his birth?

I'll take a free guess even if we did waste 10 questions assuming our person was "living".

Juvenal Habyarimana, former President of Rwanda whose killing brought on the Rwandan Civil War.

Were they a head of state and/or head of government for at least some time between 1950 and 1978, inclusive?

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:47 pm

Is he a dead person primarily associated with an African country that was also the country of his birth?

No

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:58 pm

I'll take a free guess even if we did waste 10 questions assuming our person was "living".

Juvenal Habyarimana, former President of Rwanda whose killing brought on the Rwandan Civil War.

No

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:07 pm

Were they a head of state and/or head of government for at least some time between 1950 and 1978, inclusive?

No

1. Real human (who is probably dead) more than 5 feet tall born in a country with 1 million plus present-day inhabitants.

2. Not born in Eurasia or North America.

3. known for serving in government, for being a military leader, for being an athlete, or for being a scientist, broadly defined (including mathematics and social sciences) or an inventor

4. South American or African

5. Not born north of the Equator

6. Not female

7. Known for being a governmental or military role

8. Current or former head of state and/or head of government

9. Did not hold a government role in a country where Spanish or Portuguese is an official language.

10. Not a Head of state/government for at least some time after the end of 2005.

11. Not head of state for South Africa, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Madagascar, Lesotho, Eswatini, Malawi, or the Comoros.

12. Born after 1800.

13. Not a dead person primarily associated with an African country that was also the country of his birth.

14. Not a head of state and/or head of government for at least some time between 1950 and 1978.

Is this person associated with a country with does not incorporate the territory of their birth?

Born in a location that was part of the British Empire at the time of his birth?

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:13 pm

Is this person associated with a country with does not incorporate the territory of their birth?

No, this person is associated with a country which does incorporate the territory of their birth.

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:19 pm

Born in a location that was part of the British Empire at the time of his birth?

No

1. Real human (who is probably dead) more than 5 feet tall born in a country with 1 million plus present-day inhabitants.

2. Not born in Eurasia or North America.

3. known for serving in government, for being a military leader, for being an athlete, or for being a scientist, broadly defined (including mathematics and social sciences) or an inventor

4. South American or African

5. Not born north of the Equator

6. Not female

7. Known for being a governmental or military role

8. Current or former head of state and/or head of government

9. Did not hold a government role in a country where Spanish or Portuguese is an official language.

10. Not a Head of state/government for at least some time after the end of 2005.

11. Not head of state for South Africa, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Madagascar, Lesotho, Eswatini, Malawi, or the Comoros.

12. Born after 1800.

13. Not a dead person primarily associated with an African country that was also the country of his birth.

14. Not a head of state and/or head of government for at least some time between 1950 and 1978.

15. Associated with a country in whose territory he was born.

16. Not born in a location that was part of the British Empire at the time of his birth.

OK, so maybe his associated country includes his birthplace, but the birthplace was not part of that country at the time of birth. Or maybe he's "South American" or "African" in an ancestral sense.

Born in Africa?