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Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:49 pm
by damo666
1. Real person
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Died after Jan 1, 1900
5. Not Anglo-Saxon or of an Anglo-Saxon nation
6. Eurasian
7. Not significantly involved in WWII
8. Not East Asian or from a member country of ASEAN
9. Asian, Russian, Soviet, Eastern European, Turkic, Cypriot or Greek
10. Born before Jan 1, 1930
11. Not Levantine (excluding Cyprus), Arabian, Mesopotamian, Iranian, Afghan, South Asian or Himalayan
12. Russian, Soviet, or Eastern European
13. Not a politician, diplomat, religious minister, philosopher, scientist or engineer.
14. Was a painter, author, musician or other non-acting/film artist
15. His mother tongue a Slavic language
16. Has never served in the military.
17. Died in the West (the US-aligned countries)
18. A painter or a musician (including a music composer)
19. Not on composer list
NOT:
Gandhi
Marc Chagall*
Arthur Rubinstein*
Georgi Markov
* not counted
Free info
Has composed but not known as a composer
Not known for playing a musical instrument
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:54 pm
by damo666
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:38 pm
supi13 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:34 pm
Free guess: is it Arthur Rubinstein?
(btw, if we had some more questions, I would ask if he was Jewish, or at least 50% Jewish)
I feel like "Russian or soviet artist who is buried in the West" is like 90% likely to be Jewish...
Want to ask.....
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:55 pm
by Foxcastle
I am finding lots of old time opera people who fit this bill, but none of them that I would really rise the level of notable enough for 20 questions.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:56 pm
by damo666
JECE wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:09 pm
Not using up the last question here, but maybe he was some sort of cosmonaut or chess player who defected.
Free info
I am unaware of any defecting cosmonauts
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:05 pm
by Foxcastle
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:54 pm
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:38 pm
supi13 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:34 pm
Free guess: is it Arthur Rubinstein?
(btw, if we had some more questions, I would ask if he was Jewish, or at least 50% Jewish)
I feel like "Russian or soviet artist who is buried in the West" is like 90% likely to be Jewish...
Want to ask.....
I recommend against it. I think we'd get more use out of asking about when he died or something.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:09 pm
by Foxcastle
Damo said "He is strongly and professionally associated with music and has composed but composition is not for what he is remembered," and also that he was not known for playing a musical instrument. I somehow can't shake the feeling we are on the wrong track here...
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:16 pm
by Kakarroto
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:39 pm
Kakarroto wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:25 pm
Free guess: was it Georgi Markov? The one assassinated via umbrella?
No. Did he compose any music?
Interestingly a week after the incident I was walking near Bush House in Aldwych central London (I was studying at King's College London) and was asked by the police had I noticed anything strange the previous week. I hadn't.
Well he worked for the BBC and the Neue Deutsche Welle so I thought that could be the music connection. And in terms of composition it might've been his hobby, didn't research too much there (had a few days before where I searched hard for clues for another project, you might have heard of that). He fits the profile overall and I wanted to use my free guess and since this incident was what made me remember him it might've been why you've chosen him. It's not I was heavily involved in this one.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:46 pm
by Chaqa
(none of the below is a question for Damo)
So if I'm understanding, we're looking for:
Someone born after January 1, 1930, who is currently dead, that is from Russia, the Soviet Union, or Eastern Europe, was not significantly involved in politics, diplomacy, religion, philosophy, science, engineering, or WW1/WW2. Is a painter or musician, but not primarily a composer. Died in the "west", never served in the military.
Not being Levantine would imply not Jewish IMO, but that is up for debate.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:48 pm
by damo666
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:47 pm
1. Real person
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Died after Jan 1, 1900
5. Not Anglo-Saxon or of an Anglo-Saxon nation
6. Eurasian
7. Not significantly involved in WWII
8. Not East Asian or from a member country of ASEAN
9. Asian, Russian, Soviet, Eastern European, Turkic, Cypriot or Greek
Just noticed #7 - should say either World War not just WW2, this incompleteness has been copied throughout
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:54 pm
by damo666
Chaqa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:46 pm
(none of the below is a question for Damo)
So if I'm understanding, we're looking for:
Someone born after January 1, 1930, who is currently dead, that is from Russia, the Soviet Union, or Eastern Europe, was not significantly involved in politics, diplomacy, religion, philosophy, science, engineering, or WW1/WW2. Is a painter or musician, but not primarily a composer. Died in the "west", never served in the military.
Not being Levantine would imply not Jewish IMO, but that is up for debate.
"musician" may be a tad misleading but he is strongly associated with music
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:57 pm
by supi13
Chaqa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:46 pm
(none of the below is a question for Damo)
So if I'm understanding, we're looking for:
Someone born after January 1, 1930, who is currently dead, that is from Russia, the Soviet Union, or Eastern Europe, was not significantly involved in politics, diplomacy, religion, philosophy, science, engineering, or WW1/WW2. Is a painter or musician, but not primarily a composer. Died in the "west", never served in the military.
Not being Levantine would imply not Jewish IMO, but that is up for debate.
Born BEFORE 1930, died in 1900 or later.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:57 pm
by damo666
ONE question left
JECE and Kak have used a free guess.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:58 pm
by damo666
supi13 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:57 pm
Chaqa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:46 pm
(none of the below is a question for Damo)
So if I'm understanding, we're looking for:
Someone born after January 1, 1930, who is currently dead, that is from Russia, the Soviet Union, or Eastern Europe, was not significantly involved in politics, diplomacy, religion, philosophy, science, engineering, or WW1/WW2. Is a painter or musician, but not primarily a composer. Died in the "west", never served in the military.
Not being Levantine would imply not Jewish IMO, but that is up for debate.
Born BEFORE 1930, died in 1900 or later.
Confirmed
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 4:13 pm
by Chaqa
I don't know enough about this to feel confident in asking the last question.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:44 pm
by Foxcastle
Yul Brynner is another "almost," but he was never a composer.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:51 pm
by damo666
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:44 pm
Yul Brynner is another "almost," but he was never a composer.
And acted.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:53 pm
by Foxcastle
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:51 pm
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:44 pm
Yul Brynner is another "almost," but he was never a composer.
And acted.
Hm. This is interesting information. I was not reading the response to that questions as ruling out acting, just requiring that the candidate also be another type of artist as well (which is all too common, I'm finding)
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:05 pm
by Foxcastle
Has composed but not known as a composer
Not known for playing a musical instrument
But also known for association with music in some capacity...
Most conductors I've looked at were also composers (often on that list), and conductors are generally too obscure for 20 questions.
Ballet choreographers I've looked at were not composers at all, besides being too obscure for 20 questions.
You might guess something like a technologist working with music in some capacity, but he wasn't a scientist or engineer.
Singers of various sorts come next. You'd exclude anyone acting, which presumably rules out opera, but even if you don't rule out opera, I can't find a candidate that I'd consider notable enough for this.
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:15 pm
by damo666
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:57 am
Chaqa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:43 am
Was he a painter, author, musician or other
non-acting/film
artist?
Yes
Re: Twenty Questions game 79
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:18 pm
by damo666
Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:38 pm
supi13 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:34 pm
Free guess: is it Arthur Rubinstein?
(btw, if we had some more questions, I would ask if he was Jewish, or at least 50% Jewish)
I feel like "Russian or soviet artist who is buried in the West" is like
90% likely to be Jewish...
An overestimate imo and not in this instance.