Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

[e.m.c^42]

Halfway point: 24 hours left until voting phase ends.

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Current vote count:

brain (2): bozo, yuuki
yuuki (2): xorxes, espresso
bozo (1): brain

Ike, rivera, and damo have yet to vote.

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[e.m.c^42]

Halfway point: 24 hours left until voting phase ends.

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Current vote count:

brain (2): bozo, yuuki
yuuki (2): xorxes, espresso
bozo (1): brain

Ike, rivera, and damo have yet to vote this phase.

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Does anyone actually want flavour posts?

[e.m.c^42]

Ah, oops, bad internet and double post. Please ignore :)

[bozotheclown]

I wish you had waited for Ike.

From my pov with BEX v EYZ I prefer E as target

Making the lynch me vs. brainbomb forces the mafia to confirm themselves by insisting on voting yuuki instead of me or brainbomb.

Pushing B v Z is really just asking people to make their vote with less certainty.

But you already know that.

If you and xorxes are town, and rdrivera's wincon is still for town to win, then the mafia is BDY, and you will need to vote brainbomb with me if you want town to win. Insisting on voting for yuuki tells me everything I need to know.

[damo666]

Halfway point: 24 hours left until voting phase ends.

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Current vote count:

brain (2): bozo, yuuki
yuuki (2): xorxes, espresso
bozo (1): brain

Ike, rivera, and damo have yet to vote this phase.

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No

[brainbomb]

##vote yuuki

no point in dyin alone on a hill

[yuuki]

aaaaand there it is

[bozotheclown]

The mafia team have confirmed themselves from my point of view. I will vote for whichever one of xorxes, Espresso, and brainbomb that Ike wants to vote for.

[RagingIke297]

Alright Booooooooooyyyyyyyyyyyyssssssssss

Time to get down to business and solve this bad boy. So we've got 8 pieces of information, of which AT LEAST 4 should be true. The one that sticks out to me the most is EP confessing to Damo who reports he's scum. If this is true, we lynch EP and we win. If this is false, we lynch Damo and we win. If we adopt the train of thought that scum will always lie, we can also put together that if EP is scum, Xorxes must be scum as well. We can also put together that if Damo is scum, then Yuuki is too. If Damo is scum, I would reckon that Bozo is scum too. We have 0 information on Brainbomb, nothing, nada and from what it looks like to me, the only other "confirmed" person besides myself is RDR and that could have changed with his agenda.... Here's what I have left, in groups of most likely to least likely IMO, someone correct me if I'm wrong:


BEX
DYZ


EYZ
BDY


(DEY)

[RagingIke297]

Current vote count:


yuuki (3): xorxes, espresso, brain
brain (2): bozo, yuuki

Well dip me in axle grease and call me slick, who'd have seen this coming???

[RagingIke297]

So lets take a look at these two teams:

BEX
Info provided:
1/2. X confessed to E, reported town
3. RDR was town to start the game (Irrelevant)
4. E confessed to D, reported scum

DYZ
Info provided:
1/2. D and Z are both town
5. Y and Z are on the same team
8. I and R were on the same team at the beginning (Irrelevant)



So, this leaves me with the conclusion that one of these groups lied but I have no clue which and I'm essentially the deciding vote. Super

[RagingIke297]

I mean, I would have a reallllllllly hard time not voting for EP because there's info out there that says they're confirmed scum...but, Yuuki, Bozo and Damo have seemed like they are cooperating, and have from the start. Look at the day 1 votes for who to give info to:

votes for xorxes target:
bozo: damo
rdrivera: rdrivera
damo: yuuki
yuuki: damo

and I have to remember that these are possible too: EYZ / BDY

[RagingIke297]

See, and when I step back and look at the 4 most probable teams:
BEX
DYZ
EYZ
BDY

B 2
D 1
E 2
I 0
R 0
X 1
Y 3
Z 2



Lets reorder that:

I 0
R 0
X 1
D 1
B 2
E 2
Z 2
Y 3


Which makes me want to just hedge bets and vote Yuuki. Speaking of, it's kinda funny that he would "vote with me unconditionally". From his point of view it HAS to be BEX, would he follow me if I voted Z or D???

[RagingIke297]

Bueller, Bueller, Bueller, Bueller??? (not sure why I'm asking for people to tell me exactly what I know they're going to tell me)

[rdrivera2005]

This pathetic excuse of a game that isn't Mafia haven't finished yet?

##Ask GM - Do we have a functional GM to really say what happens if the voting draws? It's unbelievable we don't know the rules in the last 24 hours.

##vote Yukki for now

[RagingIke297]

This pathetic excuse of a game that isn't Mafia haven't finished yet?

##Ask GM - Do we have a functional GM to really say what happens if the voting draws? It's unbelievable we don't know the rules in the last 24 hours.

##vote Yukki for now

Oh crap, totally forgot that RDR wants Yukki dead, he could have more than one reason to want that as town or scum.....

[yuuki]

See, and when I step back and look at the 4 most probable teams:
BEX
DYZ
EYZ
BDY

B 2
D 1
E 2
I 0
R 0
X 1
Y 3
Z 2



Lets reorder that:

I 0
R 0
X 1
D 1
B 2
E 2
Z 2
Y 3


Which makes me want to just hedge bets and vote Yuuki. Speaking of, it's kinda funny that he would "vote with me unconditionally". From his point of view it HAS to be BEX, would he follow me if I voted Z or D???

I will, it's the same to lose 5 3 as it is to lose 6 2

[xorxes]

I mean, I would have a reallllllllly hard time not voting for EP because there's info out there that says they're confirmed scum...but, Yuuki, Bozo and Damo have seemed like they are cooperating, and have from the start. Look at the day 1 votes for who to give info to:

votes for xorxes target:
bozo: damo
rdrivera: rdrivera
damo: yuuki
yuuki: damo

They didn't just want me to confess to them, they also strongarmed Espresso and yourself to confess to them, basically controlling and deciding most of the information we got. If they were town, they would want to spread the information as widely as possible so all townies get some, not hog it all to themselves.

[yuuki]

I have already done everything I can to prove it's BEX. BEX have been scummy since D1 whereas DYZ have been towny since D1.

If you want to go ahead and play the odds and vote for me so be it. It's on you for for letting yourself be manipulated by xorxes strategy of trying to make this about finding the whole team and not just one person which is all we really need. xorxes has spent all game trying to make it seem as if whoever is in more possible teams is scum because he knows that leads to a mislynch of me.

You can also see that the scum team refuses to switch targets from me to anyone else in their scum teams because they know that they need rdrivera to vote with them and that rdrivera clearly has it in for me. EP should want damo more than me. The simple fact that they are not trying to push for their logical targets (like bozo and damo who have been pushing for two different targets) should be enough proof of who is scum. Why is EP pushing for my death over damo if damo is the one who said he was scum?

By the way, DYZ would be an incredibly unlikely scenario given that damo said bozo and I are on the same team. If damo were scum that would had been a perfect opportunity to try to 'clear' a scum in the mind of one townie. Almost as unlikely is EDY. When you think about it all scum teams that include me make very little sense given behaviors, votes, and claims. Whereas the scum team BEX makes perfect sense from beginning to end.

[bozotheclown]

I mean, I would have a reallllllllly hard time not voting for EP because there's info out there that says they're confirmed scum...but, Yuuki, Bozo and Damo have seemed like they are cooperating, and have from the start. Look at the day 1 votes for who to give info to:

votes for xorxes target:
bozo: damo
rdrivera: rdrivera
damo: yuuki
yuuki: damo

and I have to remember that these are possible too: EYZ / BDY

I know it is either BEX or BDY, which is why I voted for brainbomb. xorxes and Espresso refusing to consider voting for brainbomb and insisting on voting with rdrivera when we do not know rdrivera's wincon confirms to me that it is BEX.

As for the phase 1 votes for the targets, the town (except for you, who missed phase 1) committed to votes, while the entire mafia team failed to place votes, leaving as little information about them as possible.