M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[kgray]

I feel like we're sleeping on Bunny and/or Damo as scum possibilities.

Okay but this doesn't feel at all like someone who's about to lose the game.

[kgray]

##vote Chaqa

I wish I was more excited about this finally happening.

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL.GM: could the mafia have decided to not choose any rolls, but save their money?

Why are you talking about this nonsense at this final point?

This was covered in some detail during D1 and the GM already clarified that the Mafia team *had* purchased specific roles.

You really appear to be trying to distract town with this pointless discussion.

[Jamiet99uk]

Serious scum-points for Dargorygel and Kgray for behaving as if that was a new question that wasn't talked about on D1. Very suspect.

[Chaqa]

I feel like we're sleeping on Bunny and/or Damo as scum possibilities.

Okay but this doesn't feel at all like someone who's about to lose the game.

Everyone's already decided I'm guilty and I work until after the phase shift.

I don't have the time or energy to defend myself adequately.

Town's about to lose, and I can't really do much about it.

[kgray]

##CALL.GM: could the mafia have decided to not choose any rolls, but save their money?

Why are you talking about this nonsense at this final point?

This was covered in some detail during D1 and the GM already clarified that the Mafia team *had* purchased specific roles.

You really appear to be trying to distract town with this pointless discussion.

Distract from what? You didn't like Bunny questioning you either. It's not like there was a ton of discussion happening. What were we talking about that was so much more important than these topics?

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL.GM: could the mafia have decided to not choose any rolls, but save their money?

Why are you talking about this nonsense at this final point?

This was covered in some detail during D1 and the GM already clarified that the Mafia team *had* purchased specific roles.

You really appear to be trying to distract town with this pointless discussion.

Distract from what? You didn't like Bunny questioning you either. It's not like there was a ton of discussion happening. What were we talking about that was so much more important than these topics?

Ok then, you tell me why Darg started talking about a random setup issue that was already discussed on D1 and answered, and why you responded as if this was a totally new question that nobody knew the answer to?

[kgray]

Why are you talking about this nonsense at this final point?

This was covered in some detail during D1 and the GM already clarified that the Mafia team *had* purchased specific roles.

You really appear to be trying to distract town with this pointless discussion.

Distract from what? You didn't like Bunny questioning you either. It's not like there was a ton of discussion happening. What were we talking about that was so much more important than these topics?

Ok then, you tell me why Darg started talking about a random setup issue that was already discussed on D1 and answered, and why you responded as if this was a totally new question that nobody knew the answer to?

I don't know why he brought it up, and I didn't know the answer. I assumed that they had to choose roles but I even went back through worcej's ISO to confirm and couldn't find where he said that was required.

Why are you pretending like Rivera didn't participate in the discussion too? And I would really love for you to show me an important conversation that this got in the way of.

[Chaqa]

It really is terrible because I've been trying to convince you all kgray is scum for days. Day 4, we had her on the block and a bunch of shenanigans happened to save her and ghug died. Look at the Day 4 vote count and tell me I'm wrong that kgray wasn't saved. It's embarrassing how we let obvious scum get away with shit here.

[dargorygel]

Wow Jamie... now who needs a chill pill?
I was asked how I thought the scum had spent there money and i gave an answer.

Because I do NOT see that the GM answered this question.

Here is the conversation...
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:53 pm
##CALLGM

Are the mafia roles assigned to them randomly from the group they bought (as per the link in the setup), or do they get to choose who gets what?
GM Note:
The Mafia assigned their purchased roles to specific people.

Worcej is always (as are most GM's) VERY particular about exact wording.

His answer does not preclude my tinfoil hat theory.

If they had not purchased ANY roles, or ONE role, or 198 roles, he would have answered the same way. ESPECIALLY in the light of ghug's exact question.

[kgray]

It really is terrible because I've been trying to convince you all kgray is scum for days. Day 4, we had her on the block and a bunch of shenanigans happened to save her and ghug died. Look at the Day 4 vote count and tell me I'm wrong that kgray wasn't saved. It's embarrassing how we let obvious scum get away with shit here.

Chaqa if you're town then I'll share LVP with you.

[dargorygel]

If there is another place he answered, I'll drop my tinfoil. (I already mostly have, since all your brilliant people have denied the likelihood of it)
But it is also why I have not spent a LOT of time putting together the 'most likely' list of purchases.

We just don't know.

[Chaqa]

It really is terrible because I've been trying to convince you all kgray is scum for days. Day 4, we had her on the block and a bunch of shenanigans happened to save her and ghug died. Look at the Day 4 vote count and tell me I'm wrong that kgray wasn't saved. It's embarrassing how we let obvious scum get away with shit here.

Chaqa if you're town then I'll share LVP with you.

If that's how it is, that's how it is.

[dargorygel]

I think there will be a LOT of us LVP.

[Chaqa]

If there is another place he answered, I'll drop my tinfoil. (I already mostly have, since all your brilliant people have denied the likelihood of it)
But it is also why I have not spent a LOT of time putting together the 'most likely' list of purchases.

We just don't know.

Why are you worrying about this instead of the impending town loss you're helping orchestrate?

[kgray]

If my townreads of Jamie and darg are correct, then only one of Chaqa/Rivera/Macca/Bunny/damo is town. And if Jamie and darg are both town, I don't see how Chaqa can be scum because of the RBs and my conclusion that scum assumed they'd have an easy win today.

@Jamie @darg can we talk about this?

I would also like to point out you, Jamie, ignored this and instead started harping on people for wondering about setup rules.

[dargorygel]

If my townreads of Jamie and darg are correct, then only one of Chaqa/Rivera/Macca/Bunny/damo is town. And if Jamie and darg are both town, I don't see how Chaqa can be scum because of the RBs and my conclusion that scum assumed they'd have an easy win today.

@Jamie @darg can we talk about this?

I would also like to point out you, Jamie, ignored this and instead started harping on people for wondering about setup rules.

I didn't answer yet, either, kgray.

I agree with the possibility of scum expecting chaqa to be the daykill today. But I don't see it as enough to go elsewhere. Especially with no consensus on who to kill instead.

[dargorygel]

If there is another place he answered, I'll drop my tinfoil. (I already mostly have, since all your brilliant people have denied the likelihood of it)
But it is also why I have not spent a LOT of time putting together the 'most likely' list of purchases.

We just don't know.

Why are you worrying about this instead of the impending town loss you're helping orchestrate?

lol
Umm... because I hope it is NOT a town loss?
umm... because if it is not a town loss, jamie's comments deserve an anwer?
umm... because if I am scum (as you are hinting) why would I worry??

[Chaqa]

If my townreads of Jamie and darg are correct, then only one of Chaqa/Rivera/Macca/Bunny/damo is town. And if Jamie and darg are both town, I don't see how Chaqa can be scum because of the RBs and my conclusion that scum assumed they'd have an easy win today.

@Jamie @darg can we talk about this?

I would also like to point out you, Jamie, ignored this and instead started harping on people for wondering about setup rules.

I didn't answer yet, either, kgray.

I agree with the possibility of scum expecting chaqa to be the daykill today. But I don't see it as enough to go elsewhere. Especially with no consensus on who to kill instead.

So you think scum could have done this to get me killed, but yet you still think that's what town should be doing?

Dargo man, I wish I knew how to get through to you.

[kgray]

If my townreads of Jamie and darg are correct, then only one of Chaqa/Rivera/Macca/Bunny/damo is town. And if Jamie and darg are both town, I don't see how Chaqa can be scum because of the RBs and my conclusion that scum assumed they'd have an easy win today.

@Jamie @darg can we talk about this?

I would also like to point out you, Jamie, ignored this and instead started harping on people for wondering about setup rules.

I didn't answer yet, either, kgray.

I agree with the possibility of scum expecting chaqa to be the daykill today. But I don't see it as enough to go elsewhere. Especially with no consensus on who to kill instead.

Yes I know, but Jamie's being a hypocrite.