M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BesharamSabi]

As defensive as I am it's funny how defensive blamp gets when I sus him but not when others sus on him.

Because yours isn’t genuine!!!!

MINE IS GENUINE.

YOU THINK SCUM CAN THINK OF THESE TINFOIL THEORIES? IT TAKES A LOT OF TIN FOIL AND A DASH OF STRAW CLUTCHING TO MAKE THESE THEORIES.

Blamp I like you. Be flattered you have been the main character of my tin foil theories

[President Eden]

I had him as a strong townread early in the game for effort and seeing through the Kak miskill. he’d have lost some goodwill if celaph were town but celaph didn’t so I had no reason to waver. that list you quoted is after the celaph flip, so I’m not sure how having Bona high up in it is heavyhanded or knowing too much.

it isnt the first time you did this though
you did this with pyxxy after he tried to tie the game
youve done this with sabi all game

its like you have the exact answers and you are just using minor in game reasoning to justify knowing everything

I have taken notice of:

• how close a correlation there is between my personal thoughts on who is what alignment and the subsequent town consensus as to those players and their alignments; and
• how frequently webDip towns in past games have inexplicably turned on clear townreads and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory

and have chosen not to express every last “well there’s a world where XYZ could be mafia” in the interest of not permitting such a collapse on my watch.

I had been withholding the exact reason why everyone in my RGB code is where they are because I had hoped other people would entertain the exercise. since that isn’t happening, I will give a detailed rundown of everyone before I presumably die tonight.

as far as powerscumming goes, I can’t speak to exactly how this game would be different if I were mafia instead of another player, but I am reasonably sure that I would have intentionally been less accurate than I have been. I would have not resisted the Kak kill nearly as hard. I would have treated the D2 Maniac wagon like more than a token opportunity. I haven’t played mafia sided in forever, but I’m never going to be a deep threat and wouldn’t play to be like one.

[BesharamSabi]

Sabi is certainly in the running to be scum. I think this is where I'm at now:

Chaqa
President Eden
bozotheclown
Jamiet99uk
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brainbomb
Bonatogether
DemonRHK
pyxxy
BesharamSabi
worcej
rdrivera2005
Fluminator
BusinessLamp

What exactly has demon done to be a townclear?

he got very emotional and said that if I kill him itll be another sob bb story about ruining the game

So nothing?

Demon emotional reaction gets him townclear. Interesting.

[brainbomb]

it got me to stop voting him when he started insulting me and saying all I ever do is pick on him in games

[Chaqa]

1) Maniac
2) Sabi/ghug/rdr/Jamie [that order]

This post from Damo could be a reason he was killed. Noting it for later.

Continuing to build a list of votes you can move to as you yell “STAY THE COURSE” isn’t helping me think you’re town. I don’t get why you’re being so discouraging of other options being explored, it goes completely against your day 1 and day 2 behavior of trying to encourage multiple wagons to get more information. I think the difference is now you see a path to victory as scum and you’re trying to hammer it home.

I am not moving my vote.

These are names to keep in mind for future days.

I am discouraging behavior like brain is displaying where he's worrying about Eden being scum, for example. I've seen town implode too many times through paranoia to let that happen.

You may be town. It's never impossible for there to be deep cover scum. BUT - you are the most likely scum from my perspective, and even if you are town (which I do not think is likely), removing you from the game is optimal because it will begin to clear up the mystery of Day 1 and Day 2, and also shed light on several people's alignments.

And if you flip scum, which I think you will, we will be able to celebrate and it's basically GG.

[President Eden]

Poe notes

Blamp:

• hasn't really made a straight answer about his celaph-Maniac vote thing in day two

• copy pasta'd God thread that may or may not be faked

• thinks worcej and brainbomb is in towncore

• flum: stated that he would not be above faking fod thread submission

See, this is why I think Sabi is scum and just has always been unnaturally pushing a case on me. Despite reaching the personal conclusion of “the god thread posts are real,” they never actually affect their read of me. I feel like this has happened a bunch of times where they put sus on me, I respond in a good way, and they back off for the moment, waiting for the next time someone responds and they can keep piling on sus on me.

##vote BesharamSabi

this needs to be resolved imo. if we’re both town we’re gonna game throw. i can’t get over it.

I mean I think 90% it's real but Flum said it wasn't out of your range to fake it.

I was giving out my notes on POE.

Why are you upset over that?

if it’s 90% real you’re still that confident that it’s faked? That doesn’t seem like it follows to me.

obviously I’m voting Lamp rn so it’s not like I’m sold it’s real… but if I really had a 90% confidence in that being real then Lamp would be blue, borderline green, in my rankings.

[BusinessLamp]

As defensive as I am it's funny how defensive blamp gets when I sus him but not when others sus on him.

Because yours isn’t genuine!!!!

MINE IS GENUINE.

YOU THINK SCUM CAN THINK OF THESE TINFOIL THEORIES? IT TAKES A LOT OF TIN FOIL AND A DASH OF STRAW CLUTCHING TO MAKE THESE THEORIES.

Blamp I like you. Be flattered you have been the main character of my tin foil theories

You just continue to come up with reasons to suspect me/to not townread me. “Well, Flum said it /could/ be faked soooo…” Why trust Flum who could also be mafia trying to make sure I don’t gain any cred?

I know I’m probably leaving today, trying to think of the best use of my time

[brainbomb]

how many phases would you blindly follow your POE seeing townflip after townflip and never even do a single comprehensive reread of bona and eden

[brainbomb]

just do a goddamn reread im not asking you to sheep me in checks and balances. Im not a lazy mafia player who sits on his couch in his boxers scratching his balls all day

[Chaqa]

Sabi is certainly in the running to be scum. I think this is where I'm at now:

Chaqa
President Eden
bozotheclown
Jamiet99uk
-------------------
brainbomb
Bonatogether
DemonRHK
pyxxy
BesharamSabi
worcej
rdrivera2005
Fluminator
BusinessLamp

What exactly has demon done to be a townclear?

Green is not town clear. Underlined is townclear.

Demon is a solid town read based off his behavior and his critical day 1 vote.

It’s that simple.

[BesharamSabi]

See, this is why I think Sabi is scum and just has always been unnaturally pushing a case on me. Despite reaching the personal conclusion of “the god thread posts are real,” they never actually affect their read of me. I feel like this has happened a bunch of times where they put sus on me, I respond in a good way, and they back off for the moment, waiting for the next time someone responds and they can keep piling on sus on me.

##vote BesharamSabi

this needs to be resolved imo. if we’re both town we’re gonna game throw. i can’t get over it.

I mean I think 90% it's real but Flum said it wasn't out of your range to fake it.

I was giving out my notes on POE.

Why are you upset over that?

if it’s 90% real you’re still that confident that it’s faked? That doesn’t seem like it follows to me.

obviously I’m voting Lamp rn so it’s not like I’m sold it’s real… but if I really had a 90% confidence in that being real then Lamp would be blue, borderline green, in my rankings.

I think there's a 10% chance it's faked.

One piece of evidence doesn't full keep him out of POE esp with his day 2 antics with his interactions irt celaph.

[President Eden]

just do a goddamn reread im not asking you to sheep me in checks and balances. Im not a lazy mafia player who sits on his couch in his boxers scratching his balls all day

look man I’ll have you know I got up and went to work this morning eventually

[BusinessLamp]

This post from Damo could be a reason he was killed. Noting it for later.

Continuing to build a list of votes you can move to as you yell “STAY THE COURSE” isn’t helping me think you’re town. I don’t get why you’re being so discouraging of other options being explored, it goes completely against your day 1 and day 2 behavior of trying to encourage multiple wagons to get more information. I think the difference is now you see a path to victory as scum and you’re trying to hammer it home.

I am not moving my vote.

These are names to keep in mind for future days.

I am discouraging behavior like brain is displaying where he's worrying about Eden being scum, for example. I've seen town implode too many times through paranoia to let that happen.

You may be town. It's never impossible for there to be deep cover scum. BUT - you are the most likely scum from my perspective, and even if you are town (which I do not think is likely), removing you from the game is optimal because it will begin to clear up the mystery of Day 1 and Day 2, and also shed light on several people's alignments.

And if you flip scum, which I think you will, we will be able to celebrate and it's basically GG.

So what do you think I should do today, then? I don’t want to spend 7 hours trying to solve for it not to even be looked at once I’m out of here and you just move on to the next person on your predetermined list.

[BesharamSabi]

Because yours isn’t genuine!!!!

MINE IS GENUINE.

YOU THINK SCUM CAN THINK OF THESE TINFOIL THEORIES? IT TAKES A LOT OF TIN FOIL AND A DASH OF STRAW CLUTCHING TO MAKE THESE THEORIES.

Blamp I like you. Be flattered you have been the main character of my tin foil theories

You just continue to come up with reasons to suspect me/to not townread me. “Well, Flum said it /could/ be faked soooo…” Why trust Flum who could also be mafia trying to make sure I don’t gain any cred?

I know I’m probably leaving today, trying to think of the best use of my time

That's why I wanted durga here to verify your meta. Tbf I rather vote rdr over you today.

[brainbomb]

jamie and bozo are not clear though.
we dont know if damo was cop.

see now that would be the tinfoil you dont wanna hear. but dont sit here and tell me it isnt even worth your fucking time to double check bona

[President Eden]

I mean I think 90% it's real but Flum said it wasn't out of your range to fake it.

I was giving out my notes on POE.

Why are you upset over that?

if it’s 90% real you’re still that confident that it’s faked? That doesn’t seem like it follows to me.

obviously I’m voting Lamp rn so it’s not like I’m sold it’s real… but if I really had a 90% confidence in that being real then Lamp would be blue, borderline green, in my rankings.

I think there's a 10% chance it's faked.

One piece of evidence doesn't full keep him out of POE esp with his day 2 antics with his interactions irt celaph.

wait what yes it does!
if that god msg is real then he’s town, full stop, end of story.
you cannot articulate a remotely convincing world where that msg is real and he sent it to god chat as a mafia for the lulz.
so if you think it’s really 90% to be real then you should have an incredibly strong presumption of innocence that you’re overcoming here.

[BusinessLamp]

jamie and bozo are not clear though.
we dont know if damo was cop.

see now that would be the tinfoil you dont wanna hear. but dont sit here and tell me it isnt even worth your fucking time to double check bona

I really don’t get why Jamie is being treated as clear

[brainbomb]

jamie and bozo are not clear though.
we dont know if damo was cop.

see now that would be the tinfoil you dont wanna hear. but dont sit here and tell me it isnt even worth your fucking time to double check bona

I really don’t get why Jamie is being treated as clear

he got scanned by the cop as innocent thats usually a pretty solid marker

[BesharamSabi]

Sabi is certainly in the running to be scum. I think this is where I'm at now:

Chaqa
President Eden
bozotheclown
Jamiet99uk
-------------------
brainbomb
Bonatogether
DemonRHK
pyxxy
BesharamSabi
worcej
rdrivera2005
Fluminator
BusinessLamp

What exactly has demon done to be a townclear?

Green is not town clear. Underlined is townclear.

Demon is a solid town read based off his behavior and his critical day 1 vote.

It’s that simple.

How was it critical when he was begged by eden to vote for celaph even tho celaph was his number one scum read and he made some excuse about not voting alongside eden?

Please reread eod1 and you will see its not all that pro town as it seems.

[Chaqa]

how many phases would you blindly follow your POE seeing townflip after townflip and never even do a single comprehensive reread of bona and eden

How many phases would you kill clears while wearing a tinfoil hat and potentially throwing another game as town?