M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[rdrivera2005]

And Kgray isn't town, it's pretty obvious. Why do you think she is still alive?

Tell me why the Scum would recruit one Faith Healer, but not both?

This is a slip? They can recruit only once, and the role is random. Who do you think scum recruited and please don't start agson the bullshit that they didn't recruit.

[Jamiet99uk]

And Kgray isn't town, it's pretty obvious. Why do you think she is still alive?

Tell me why the Scum would recruit one Faith Healer, but not both?

This is a slip? They can recruit only once, and the role is random. Who do you think scum recruited and please don't start agson the bullshit that they didn't recruit.

Sorry when I say "recruit", replace that with "choose". Why would scum choose to have one FH but not both?

[damo666]

Possible scumteams from mpov listed under possible FH combos with original team to left space recruit space issues

1. Both FH are town
a) FV is town
M C R B chaqa 'proving' D is town
b) FV is scum
M D C/R B/C/R

2. 1 town FH 1 scum FH (then Fv either town or if scum ONT (Bunny) is town
a) FV town
K/J C R B chaqa 'proving' darg is town
b) FV scum
K/J C R D
K/J C D R
K/J D R C

3. Both FH are scum (assuming 1 purchased (J) and 1 recruited (K))

J + 2 of DCR K

Appearances

M 5
C 13
R 14
B 5
D 12
K 7
J 7

Conclusion we must vote from R C or D. There has to be least 2 scum in there, possibly 3.

[damo666]

Tell me why the Scum would recruit one Faith Healer, but not both?

This is a slip? They can recruit only once, and the role is random. Who do you think scum recruited and please don't start agson the bullshit that they didn't recruit.

Sorry when I say "recruit", replace that with "choose". Why would scum choose to have one FH but not both?

cost?

[rdrivera2005]

Tell me why the Scum would recruit one Faith Healer, but not both?

This is a slip? They can recruit only once, and the role is random. Who do you think scum recruited and please don't start agson the bullshit that they didn't recruit.

Sorry when I say "recruit", replace that with "choose". Why would scum choose to have one FH but not both?

I think they chose neither FH. I think they recruited Kgray that randomly get a FH role. I told this more then once, why you seem uncapable to understand?

[Jamiet99uk]

This is a slip? They can recruit only once, and the role is random. Who do you think scum recruited and please don't start agson the bullshit that they didn't recruit.

Sorry when I say "recruit", replace that with "choose". Why would scum choose to have one FH but not both?

I think they chose neither FH. I think they recruited Kgray that randomly get a FH role. I told this more then once, why you seem uncapable to understand?

Ok, thanks. There's a slight language barrier sometimes (sorry), and I lack the ability to memorise every single thing everyone posts over nearly 300 pages. Thanks for clarifying and I apologise if I made you repeat something you said earlier.

[Jamiet99uk]

Conclusion we must vote from R C or D. There has to be least 2 scum in there, possibly 3.

Hang Rdrivera, Chaqa, or Damo. Confirmed. Thanks for the insight.

[rdrivera2005]

Possible scumteams from mpov listed under possible FH combos with original team to left space recruit space issues

1. Both FH are town
a) FV is town
M C R B chaqa 'proving' D is town
b) FV is scum
M D C/R B/C/R

2. 1 town FH 1 scum FH (then Fv either town or if scum ONT (Bunny) is town
a) FV town
K/J C R B chaqa 'proving' darg is town
b) FV scum
K/J C R D
K/J C D R
K/J D R C

3. Both FH are scum (assuming 1 purchased (J) and 1 recruited (K))

J + 2 of DCR K

Appearances

M 5
C 13
R 14
B 5
D 12
K 7
J 7

Conclusion we must vote from R C or D. There has to be least 2 scum in there, possibly 3.

I don't get where your numbers cane from, but honestly it doesn't matter.
Today will be between me and Chaqa (unless Flum changes his mind). Chaqa will vote me and I will vote Chaqa, so it's currently 4 x 4. Bunny has yet to vote.

The bad part is that I suspect there is at least one town on my wagon (Jamiet) and if he didn't move it's game over unless scum miss EOD.

[rdrivera2005]

Conclusion we must vote from R C or D. There has to be least 2 scum in there, possibly 3.

Hang Rdrivera, Chaqa, or Damo. Confirmed. Thanks for the insight.

At this point it's me or Chaqa.

[Chaqa]

I don't see why Kgray is off the table.

[damo666]

I don't see why Kgray is off the table.

Of the 8 players left there are:
5 medium value of which very likely there are either 1 or 2 scum
3 low value of which either 2 or all 3 are scum

There will not be no realistic medium value wagon.

That's why kgray is off the table as is Jamie Bunny Macca and me.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't see why Kgray is off the table.

Because we can't afford having 3 wagons today, unless all town are on the same wagon we lose.

[BunnyGo]

lol look at scumChaqa making scummate @darg locktown!

If Dargo is scum, why would mafia need to roleblock at all?

Your theory only makes sense if the scumteam is Jamie, Kgray, Me, and Dargo, and I think that's a laughably impossible scumteam.

Suppose both FH are town and FV is scum. They could RB 1 FH and fruit the other but this would more or less out darg, so they use 2 RB to hide the FV. This implies a probable original 3 of Macca darg and either rdr or chaqa with a recruit of Bunny/rdr/chaqa.

Fruit Vendor isn't a RB on a healer, it is a general strongman kill. They don't need to RB at all if they used FV to kill. But (assuming FV is scum) then they'd have to RB me...

[BunnyGo]

If Dargo is scum, why would mafia need to roleblock at all?

Your theory only makes sense if the scumteam is Jamie, Kgray, Me, and Dargo, and I think that's a laughably impossible scumteam.

Suppose both FH are town and FV is scum. They could RB 1 FH and fruit the other but this would more or less out darg, so they use 2 RB to hide the FV. This implies a probable original 3 of Macca darg and either rdr or chaqa with a recruit of Bunny/rdr/chaqa.

I'd be willing to at least SLIGHTLY buy this if the Tracker last night is town. Which one of you is the odd tracker?

Yo.

[BunnyGo]

Possible scumteams from mpov listed under possible FH combos with original team to left space recruit space issues

1. Both FH are town
a) FV is town
M C R B chaqa 'proving' D is town
b) FV is scum
M D C/R B/C/R

2. 1 town FH 1 scum FH (then Fv either town or if scum ONT (Bunny) is town
a) FV town
K/J C R B chaqa 'proving' darg is town
b) FV scum
K/J C R D
K/J C D R
K/J D R C

3. Both FH are scum (assuming 1 purchased (J) and 1 recruited (K))

J + 2 of DCR K

Appearances

M 5
C 13
R 14
B 5
D 12
K 7
J 7

Conclusion we must vote from R C or D. There has to be least 2 scum in there, possibly 3.

Can anyone else read this gibberish? I stopped trying after item 1.

[BunnyGo]

I don't see why Kgray is off the table.

Because we can't afford having 3 wagons today, unless all town are on the same wagon we lose.

Why are our two wagons already set?

[BunnyGo]

Suppose both FH are town and FV is scum. They could RB 1 FH and fruit the other but this would more or less out darg, so they use 2 RB to hide the FV. This implies a probable original 3 of Macca darg and either rdr or chaqa with a recruit of Bunny/rdr/chaqa.

I'd be willing to at least SLIGHTLY buy this if the Tracker last night is town. Which one of you is the odd tracker?

Yo.

I'm also odd.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't see why Kgray is off the table.

Of the 8 players left there are:
5 medium value of which very likely there are either 1 or 2 scum
3 low value of which either 2 or all 3 are scum

There will not be no realistic medium value wagon.

That's why kgray is off the table as is Jamie Bunny Macca and me.

Do you realistically believe scum choose all the low value roles? And never roleblocked until last night? They allow trackers and Diarist and Voyeur all to town, plus 2 FH and never roleblocked. This is the boldest scum team ever.
I know they didn't took all three low value and I don't believe they took more then one. One tracker, UB and TS or FV give them better powers and one RB that is exactly what I think they got and used.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't see why Kgray is off the table.

Because we can't afford having 3 wagons today, unless all town are on the same wagon we lose.

Why are our two wagons already set?

One is set because of Flum. Unless he changes his vote, Chaqa is an option. And scum will vote me as I am scumread by many.

[damo666]

If Dargo is scum, why would mafia need to roleblock at all?

Your theory only makes sense if the scumteam is Jamie, Kgray, Me, and Dargo, and I think that's a laughably impossible scumteam.

Suppose both FH are town and FV is scum. They could RB 1 FH and fruit the other but this would more or less out darg, so they use 2 RB to hide the FV. This implies a probable original 3 of Macca darg and either rdr or chaqa with a recruit of Bunny/rdr/chaqa.

Fruit Vendor isn't a RB on a healer, it is a general strongman kill. They don't need to RB at all if they used FV to kill. But (assuming FV is scum) then they'd have to RB me...

Doh! Thinking cap back on!