Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[dargorygel]

Everyone knew there was something odd about Celaph. Celaph had a plastic look most of the time. Also, they wandered around like they were stretched too thin.

And while everyone liked Celaph, the town was getting worried. He seemed so… alien. Could he BE the alien???

The only way they could know what they thought they needed to know about what they thought they needed to know, they thought, was to kill Celaph.

So they did. Almost everyone. Some maniacal dude and celaph himself did not take part in the suffocation.

CELAPH HAS DIED. HE WAS KELLY, Ph (d), a vanilla townie.

[ghug]

Damnit celaph, you had me all excited for a second.

[Jamiet99uk]

RIP Celaph. Sorry we had to do that.

[damo666]

Good luck my infected minions! Carry my legacy forward.

And hey maf can you kill Jamie pls and thanks in advance.

I fell for this hook line and sinker

[damo666]

Good luck with the NK scum

[Maniac]

Good luck my infected minions! Carry my legacy forward.

And hey maf can you kill Jamie pls and thanks in advance.

lol - RIP & GG celpah, good to see you can retain your humour.

[Maniac]

RIP Celaph. Sorry we had to do that.

Errrr no we didn't.

[dargorygel]

Apoligizing to dear, dear, Maniac.
I missed his switch to celaph.
So if that is important to future analysis... make note.

Here is the adjusted form:
FINAL VOTE COUNT
Celaph (9) damo666, Jamiet99uk, BobMcBob, Foxcastle, ghug, worcej, rdrivera2005, Vecna, maniac
Damo666 (1) celaph

[Vecna]

like it wasnt bad enough already celaph

[rdrivera2005]

RIP Celaph, this was a really great way to fade away from the game.

I really hope scum isn't stupid and don't kill Jamiet or me. We need to find the alien tomorrow or it's possibly game over.

[Jamiet99uk]

RIP Celaph. Sorry we had to do that.

Errrr no we didn't.

Your plan was no better than what we did.

[ghug]

So, I think we need yesterjamie, Jamie, damo, and scum targeting four different people, and we need to do this while giving the alien as little information as possible.

Specific considerations:
1. Damo may be lying.
2. Scum has proven relatively unwilling to be helpful here if it doesn't interest them. Thus giving them a target that helps us narrow them down is probably out of the question, and really giving them a target period is going to be a hard sell.
3. rdr is not currently infected.
4. Given that scum has a vested interest in not killing Jamie to aid in the alien hunt, it seems like Jamie would have made for a decent infection target. What do we think of sending damo to him?

[Jamiet99uk]

So, I think we need yesterjamie, Jamie, damo, and scum targeting four different people, and we need to do this while giving the alien as little information as possible.

Specific considerations:
1. Damo may be lying.
2. Scum has proven relatively unwilling to be helpful here if it doesn't interest them. Thus giving them a target that helps us narrow them down is probably out of the question, and really giving them a target period is going to be a hard sell.
3. rdr is not currently infected.
4. Given that scum has a vested interest in not killing Jamie to aid in the alien hunt, it seems like Jamie would have made for a decent infection target. What do we think of sending damo to him?

I endorse 4 (although it is problematic if (1) )

[ghug]

So, I think we need yesterjamie, Jamie, damo, and scum targeting four different people, and we need to do this while giving the alien as little information as possible.

Specific considerations:
1. Damo may be lying.
2. Scum has proven relatively unwilling to be helpful here if it doesn't interest them. Thus giving them a target that helps us narrow them down is probably out of the question, and really giving them a target period is going to be a hard sell.
3. rdr is not currently infected.
4. Given that scum has a vested interest in not killing Jamie to aid in the alien hunt, it seems like Jamie would have made for a decent infection target. What do we think of sending damo to him?

I endorse 4 (although it is problematic if (1) )

I kind of see it as a hedge against (1). Damo's kit is less valuable because we can't really trust it as a scan, but if he is telling the truth, disinfecting you would be cool.

Another thought is that we could ask the mafia to steal from damo if they still have steals and he's not one of them. There's a question of relaying that information back to us, and it would mean we wait an extra day to use the kit if damo is truthful, but they'd effectively learn damo's the alien if he's not holding a kit and ensure that it's in human hands if he is. Probably a moot point, as I can't imagine they still have steals, but there aren't many of us left with unclaimed items, so it might be the best use of a charge if they do have one remaining.

[damo666]

Obviously we don't want alien to have any info on whether I use my kit tonight and who I use it on.

By all means feel free to discuss and I will take on board what is said but obviously I won't reveal anything.

ghug requested 4 different targets for yesterJamie, Jamie, me and scum. We're hardly gonna know scumtarget but is there a downside to Jamie revealing at least the former, if not both?

[damo666]

and meant to say theft => defer which ....

[Jamiet99uk]

Obviously we don't want alien to have any info on whether I use my kit tonight and who I use it on.

By all means feel free to discuss and I will take on board what is said but obviously I won't reveal anything.

ghug requested 4 different targets for yesterJamie, Jamie, me and scum. We're hardly gonna know scumtarget but is there a downside to Jamie revealing at least the former, if not both?

Revealing my targets may encourage the Alien to kill me.

[ghug]

Obviously we don't want alien to have any info on whether I use my kit tonight and who I use it on.

By all means feel free to discuss and I will take on board what is said but obviously I won't reveal anything.

ghug requested 4 different targets for yesterJamie, Jamie, me and scum. We're hardly gonna know scumtarget but is there a downside to Jamie revealing at least the former, if not both?

Again, let's be perfectly clear. If you hold your kit tonight, without Jamie explicitly telling you to, you are the alien and we will kill you tomorrow.

I think I'm with Jamie that revealing targets is a bad idea. Definitely tonight's. I could maybe see a case for last night's, as mafia and a good-intentioned damo would probably avoid them, but it also gives the alien better information on which to make choices, which isn't great.

I'm curious to hear Vecna's thoughts on all of this, because we've almost certainly lost if he is the alien, so it seems preferable to assume he isn't.

[rdrivera2005]

Obviously we don't want alien to have any info on whether I use my kit tonight and who I use it on.

By all means feel free to discuss and I will take on board what is said but obviously I won't reveal anything.

ghug requested 4 different targets for yesterJamie, Jamie, me and scum. We're hardly gonna know scumtarget but is there a downside to Jamie revealing at least the former, if not both?

Again, let's be perfectly clear. If you hold your kit tonight, without Jamie explicitly telling you to, you are the alien and we will kill you tomorrow.

I think I'm with Jamie that revealing targets is a bad idea. Definitely tonight's. I could maybe see a case for last night's, as mafia and a good-intentioned damo would probably avoid them, but it also gives the alien better information on which to make choices, which isn't great.

I'm curious to hear Vecna's thoughts on all of this, because we've almost certainly lost if he is the alien, so it seems preferable to assume he isn't.

I was thinking again and maybe killing me isn't a bad idea as I am a likely target for another infection. Keep Alien guessing.

[damo666]

Obviously we don't want alien to have any info on whether I use my kit tonight and who I use it on.

By all means feel free to discuss and I will take on board what is said but obviously I won't reveal anything.

ghug requested 4 different targets for yesterJamie, Jamie, me and scum. We're hardly gonna know scumtarget but is there a downside to Jamie revealing at least the former, if not both?

Again, let's be perfectly clear. If you hold your kit tonight, without Jamie explicitly telling you to, you are the alien and we will kill you tomorrow.

I think I'm with Jamie that revealing targets is a bad idea. Definitely tonight's. I could maybe see a case for last night's, as mafia and a good-intentioned damo would probably avoid them, but it also gives the alien better information on which to make choices, which isn't great.

I'm curious to hear Vecna's thoughts on all of this, because we've almost certainly lost if he is the alien, so it seems preferable to assume he isn't.

Well obviously i'm not gonna hold the kit and I think alien knows it anyway.

I have already decided who my target is and about to submit my order.

With a bit of luck alien will me to prevent kit use. That will narrow the pool.