Re: M80 Game Thread
Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 11:05 pm
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sweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:48 pmThe case for ghug being Town:
During N2, ghug asks Haze to please convince them that they are town, because they feel they must vote Haze D3 and they don't like it.
Haze replies by clearly communicating (only to ghug) that they RB ghug: Link . You can continue with peterbot to see that Haze makes other very obvious comments. At this point, we can safely conclude that ghug knows that Haze RB ghug on N1 and consequently that Haze is captain.
So how do we explain Spy X's visit to Haze on N2? The most likely explanation is that it was clear to Mafia that Haze was some sort of PR and they wanted to figure out what they were.
Is there any explanation that makes sense for X to visit Haze, if his teammate ghug knows Haze is captain? Not really. There are two possibilities and they both make no sense.
1. X didn't log in on time to change their order from pointlessly scanning Haze.
REBUTTAL: X was active on the thread plenty after Haze outted themself to ghug. ghug would have had X adjust their action to be more useful.
2. Mafia wanted to verify Haze's role.
REBUTTAL: But there is absolutely no way ghug DIDN'T know Haze's role. This is pointless.
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CONCLUSION: I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but the way N1 played out and ghug simultaneously being RB by Haze seems to have been a coincidence.
We absolutely need to find a new wagon. ##UNVOTE
(see ghug, this is why hammering is a stupid suggestion)
sweetandcool wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 8:08 amAlright, to please all of the people who think an argument for saving ghug must be reinforced by an argument to chop someone else, I present to you my pick for a scumteam:
BunnyGo
Jamiet
I already explained BunnyGo. Jamiet has been weird all game and their reaction to the Vig kill was suspiciously not Jamiet-like.
I would explain further, but I actually read through Brainbomb's posts and my brain is fried.
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Now that we have a viable scumteam, we can move past voting Town ghug, right?
If I'm wrong about either of them, brainbomb is next on my list. They are all over the place, getting into useless arguments, fomenting town paranoia. Also, it makes the most sense that brainbomb is lying about being jailed. The only reason I'm not putting them in my scumteam is that they really have bussed BunnyGo and Jamiet a lot (particularly BunnyGo), along with Fox as well. It seems a bit much for scum, but it also explains brainbomb being jailed (or rather lying about being jailed) N1. It also explains the oddity that Mafia has apparently only used the one jail on N1, and never since. Or it could be clever psychological warfare from the scumteam, maybe.
I'm sticking with voting BunnyGo because BunnyGo + brainbomb is more likely than Jamiet + brainbomb (I don't think Jamiet would have the patience to willingly get into some of the arguments he had with brainbomb).
All of that being said, I am okay with us flipping rdr, Kak or Dousing. They are still certainly better choices than ghug, who is practically 100% town and will help us not at all when revealed as such.
seriously though, this grouping is scarysweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 5:41 amFoxcastle: Would like to see more content from them. So far their only contribution is nitpicking me a little. Maybe if I bus them we can get lots of content, just like last game (;
Xcution: For some reason I don't like their play so far, but that's unfair. They at least come across as trying to be town-solving, I'm just not sure whether they are being genuine or not.
Jamiet: Acting like Jamiet. But being Jamiet? That is the question. Seriously though, neutral read.
ghug: I want to see them through at least one full day and night. So if they are Town, you better not kill them, you dirty Royalists.
Kak: Seems genuinely town. A couple of small things stick out, but one specific detail: I feel like mentioning me being online and wanting me to post (but not in an accusatory way) is not a very Royalist thing to do. It just jumped out as a genuine invitation, which, psychologically speaking, feels out of place for a Royalist to do.
brainbomb: I'm holding them to their word that they are the pirate crew, since I "beat" them at chess.
Haze: Hardcore pocketer. Not that that makes them a Royalist, but I will be paying close attention to them.
President Eden: I like their play so far but I can't help but lean towards a scumread on them. I'm starting to think it has something to do with them being a lawyer. I hate that I'm feeling like I'm reacting irrationally about this. So please ignore this read for now, dear readers.
worcej: Despite being a prolific poster, nothing really interesting catches the eye. I eagerly await more input from them.
Bonatogether: Acting normal. Nothing of note. Probably won't get anything until D2.
You're giving me too much credit here. At that point in the game X and Jamiet had caught my eye, and I was only townreading you, Kak. And Brain freely gave away that they were town after they forfeited their game of chess against me.Kakarroto wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 12:26 amseriously though, this grouping is scarysweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 5:41 amFoxcastle: Would like to see more content from them. So far their only contribution is nitpicking me a little. Maybe if I bus them we can get lots of content, just like last game (;
Xcution: For some reason I don't like their play so far, but that's unfair. They at least come across as trying to be town-solving, I'm just not sure whether they are being genuine or not.
Jamiet: Acting like Jamiet. But being Jamiet? That is the question. Seriously though, neutral read.
ghug: I want to see them through at least one full day and night. So if they are Town, you better not kill them, you dirty Royalists.
Kak: Seems genuinely town. A couple of small things stick out, but one specific detail: I feel like mentioning me being online and wanting me to post (but not in an accusatory way) is not a very Royalist thing to do. It just jumped out as a genuine invitation, which, psychologically speaking, feels out of place for a Royalist to do.
brainbomb: I'm holding them to their word that they are the pirate crew, since I "beat" them at chess.
Haze: Hardcore pocketer. Not that that makes them a Royalist, but I will be paying close attention to them.
President Eden: I like their play so far but I can't help but lean towards a scumread on them. I'm starting to think it has something to do with them being a lawyer. I hate that I'm feeling like I'm reacting irrationally about this. So please ignore this read for now, dear readers.
worcej: Despite being a prolific poster, nothing really interesting catches the eye. I eagerly await more input from them.
Bonatogether: Acting normal. Nothing of note. Probably won't get anything until D2.
sweet, are you a time traveller from the future? wait, are you me from the future?