MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#4761 Post by President Eden » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:11 pm

lol i have no clue what is happening this game

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#4762 Post by bo_sox48 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:11 pm

I'm actually leaving now before my friends go hiking without me so bye

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#4763 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:11 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:06 pm
Lmfao they didn't kill Jamie?
I am surprised.
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#4764 Post by ghug » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:11 pm

Anyway my brain is still weak but I think I agree with Jamie's nametag analysis. ##VOTE snowy

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#4765 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:12 pm

##VOTE SNOWY / VACANT

I believe I have proved that he is more than 90% likely to be the Bus Driver.
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#4766 Post by President Eden » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:12 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:59 pm
I am the cop. I’m posting this now because I think it’s quite likely that I will be killed. On N1 I ordered a scan on Princess Neon. However, due to the Bus Driver, I instead scanned BehesharamSabi, who scanned as Innocent. I can therefore confirm as fact that the Bus Driver switched Sabi and Neon on N1. This is important because Snowy has claimed to have obtained the Deathbomb nametag. This makes it incredibly likely, in my view, that Snowy is the BUS DRIVER.

Here is what would have happened with the Name Tags on N1, I believe: At start of night Bus Driver has TAG1, Neon has TAG2, Sabi has TAG3, Dargorygel has TAG4 and the Cop (me) has TAG5. The Mafia Night Killer has TAG6.

I think that Bus Driver and Florist would both target Sabi hoping to obtain the Deathbomb.
Therefore: Bus Driver gives TAG1 to Neon, Bus Driver forces Neon to give TAG2 to Sabi, Bus Driver forces Sabi to give TAG3 to Bus Driver.
Dargorygel now arrives and swaps tags with Neon (and gives her some flowers). Neon now has TAG4 and Dargorygel has TAG1. Then the Cop (me) arrives, targeting Neon but redirected to Sabi, and gives TAG5 to Sabi, and takes TAG2. Then the Mafia kills Dargorygel and takes TAG1, the Bus Driver’s original Tag.

So at the end of N1 / start of D2:

Dargorygel dies holding TAG6, placed on his corpse by the Night Killer.
Sabi was holding TAG5, ALONZO HARRIS, the VANILLA TOWN (originally the Cop’s tag).
Neon/Hamilton had TAG4 (which started on Dargorygel).
The Bus Driver was in possession of TAG3 (which Sabi claimed was the Deathbomb). Snowy claimed this tag D2 and is therefore the Bus Driver.
The Cop had TAG 2 (originally Neon’s tag - I did not peek at it. The location of this tag now will depend on N2 events)
The Mafia Night Killer had TAG 1 (originally the Bus Driver’s tag).
So I got whatever tag Neon started with, but I took it from Sabi.

Tonight I am scanning ghug.
since I reckon at this point the disguise isn’t needed, here is Jamie’s post stripped of the computer jargon thats way over the head of this boomer

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#4767 Post by Rumi Tobari » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:13 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:11 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:06 pm
Lmfao they didn't kill Jamie?
I am surprised.
i'm glad to have you another day. Everything you said is the kind of thing I can look at and think "okay, I can do something with this" and not feel "this is words, but I don't know how to interpret them"

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#4768 Post by ghug » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:14 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:12 pm
##VOTE SNOWY / VACANT

I believe I have proved that he is more than 90% likely to be the Bus Driver.
Well, it's basically the inverse of the odds of Sabi fakeclaiming the death bomb, right?

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#4769 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:15 pm

If the Doctor did not protect me last night, then killing Bus Driver SnowyVacant today might allow me to live until D4 and get another scan (unless I get Strongman Overkilled).
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#4770 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:15 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:08 pm
Jamie's post makes it even clearer that Neon's slot is mafia, so I do not intend to change this.

##VOTE Hamilton Brian
Slow down there Pontiac. I haven’t been in the game for more than 12 hours. So why me? What Jamie post?

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#4771 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:16 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:14 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:12 pm
##VOTE SNOWY / VACANT

I believe I have proved that he is more than 90% likely to be the Bus Driver.
Well, it's basically the inverse of the odds of Sabi fakeclaiming the death bomb, right?
I guess you could put it like that. And we know Sabi was town so I'm willing to assume Sabi wasn't just randomly fucking with us.
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#4772 Post by Chaqa » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:18 pm

Let’s just insta hammer snowy and get a shortened night

##Vote snowy
##END

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#4773 Post by ghug » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:18 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:16 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:14 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:12 pm
##VOTE SNOWY / VACANT

I believe I have proved that he is more than 90% likely to be the Bus Driver.
Well, it's basically the inverse of the odds of Sabi fakeclaiming the death bomb, right?
I guess you could put it like that. And we know Sabi was town so I'm willing to assume Sabi wasn't just randomly fucking with us.
I'm not putting a lot of faith in Sabi having made sensible decisions, but claiming the deathbomb when you have it as town is dumber than doing so when you don't, so here we are.

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#4774 Post by Rumi Tobari » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:18 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:12 pm
##VOTE SNOWY / VACANT

I believe I have proved that he is more than 90% likely to be the Bus Driver.
I actually have a question on this. I am agreeing with the sequence of events as you stated, it sounds pretty plausible. But I'm not seeing how we're absolutely sure Snowy was the bus driver and Neon wasn't.

Can you explain this one a little better for me?

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#4775 Post by ghug » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:18 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:18 pm
Let’s just insta hammer snowy and get a shortened night

##Vote snowy
##END
We need a second wagon, right?

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#4776 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:19 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:15 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:08 pm
Jamie's post makes it even clearer that Neon's slot is mafia, so I do not intend to change this.

##VOTE Hamilton Brian
Slow down there Pontiac. I haven’t been in the game for more than 12 hours. So why me? What Jamie post?
I'd like Bo to confirm this, but I assume he thinks the Bus Driver targeted you on N1 in order to prevent you from being scanned.
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#4777 Post by President Eden » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:19 pm

Sabi claims deathbomb-tag start of N1 and flips guilty-tag townie at end of D2.
snowy claims deathbomb-tag middle of D2 and is unflipped (and now vacant, apparently?).
Jamie claims Cop and claims check on Sabi innocent N1.
Dargo flips Florist N1 with no claims.
Neon claims to have received flowers N1.

Bus Driver swaps tags of targets.
Florist swaps tag with target.
Cop swaps tag with target.
Doctor swaps tag with target.
Mafia Kill does not swap tag with target.

Unless a Doctor saved Sabi N1, Sabi received Jamie’s guilty tag when Jamie checked Sabi N1. Jamie now has whatever Sabi’s tag was post-Bus Driver.

Neon has dargo’s nametag (and claimed Callahan D2, which is vanilla).

…I don’t know that I actually get anything from this, but maybe this helps?

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#4778 Post by Rumi Tobari » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:19 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:15 pm
If the Doctor did not protect me last night, then killing Bus Driver SnowyVacant today might allow me to live until D4 and get another scan (unless I get Strongman Overkilled).
Also, maybe I'm missing something, but assuming Snowy is the bus driver, wouldn't we want to try and take out Neon's spot and hope we get the strongman so you can't be strongman overkilled?

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#4779 Post by DemonRHK » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:20 pm

##GM NOTE

A spot may remain VACANT for 1 full Day and Night (Or Night then Day) Before being Modkilled.

I have never had to Modkill and I did not plan on starting now.

Again, you can feel free to PM or disc ping me if needed.

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#4780 Post by ghug » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:21 pm

President Eden wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:19 pm
Sabi claims deathbomb-tag start of N1 and flips guilty-tag townie at end of D2.
snowy claims deathbomb-tag middle of D2 and is unflipped (and now vacant, apparently?).
Jamie claims Cop and claims check on Sabi innocent N1.
Dargo flips Florist N1 with no claims.
Neon claims to have received flowers N1.

Bus Driver swaps tags of targets.
Florist swaps tag with target.
Cop swaps tag with target.
Doctor swaps tag with target.
Mafia Kill does not swap tag with target.

Unless a Doctor saved Sabi N1, Sabi received Jamie’s guilty tag when Jamie checked Sabi N1. Jamie now has whatever Sabi’s tag was post-Bus Driver.

Neon has dargo’s nametag (and claimed Callahan D2, which is vanilla).

…I don’t know that I actually get anything from this, but maybe this helps?
Jamie now has my original tag, I believe.

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