M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

No but I'd also not consider food being even close to a BB style.

Can you rephrase that with fewer negatives?

food is so amazing at being a player that I consider him to be his own tier of awesomeness.

BB is also the best. Like, clearly the best. He also wins all the cases he makes, all the ones he makes, like all the time, every time.

Bb has such a kooky playstyle but it works altho i was probably scumread him til the world ends because of it

[FlaviusAetius]

@colby

I believe there to be a thread somewhere that dip listed him as a scum read along with balki. Going off this and the fact he had voted dip after I toe read him was the origin of this. Then Bunny finding me sus came after me accusing him

Im not sure I buy it ngl, what were Dip's and Balki's cases for Bunny? I dont remember

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

no he isn't...is he?

Im a full blooded god lovin gun totin burger swallowin murican. I speak american, righfully own all land from sea to shining sea and will not stand for big brother all up in my busniess

Also

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Just so you're aware, Alberta is the Texas of Canada and fits most of what you described as an American

Alberta? Thats my mee maw’s name XD

[Col7by]

Hi @Col7by! Thoughts?

Hello again bunny. I think the kill on gugh was Eden because they came in very active and have seemed to disappear. I think they most likely can in and wanted to get rid of whatever power they had and play the game fresh but just a guess.

[foodcoats]

No but I'd also not consider food being even close to a BB style.

Can you rephrase that with fewer negatives?

food is so amazing at being a player that I consider him to be his own tier of awesomeness.

BB is also the best. Like, clearly the best. He also wins all the cases he makes, all the ones he makes, like all the time, every time.

LOL at first I was like “awwww shucks worcej” and then I had the piss taken right out of me hahahah

[FlaviusAetius]

Colby unfortunately it is D3, your free pass has expired

Is anyone down for a colby vote? I have no reason to townread him and when i see his posts, only go ‘hm this is pingy but hes new’

I agree but I dont like that this is coming from you so no I dont

[Col7by]

@colby

I believe there to be a thread somewhere that dip listed him as a scum read along with balki. Going off this and the fact he had voted dip after I toe read him was the origin of this. Then Bunny finding me sus came after me accusing him

Im not sure I buy it ngl, what were Dip's and Balki's cases for Bunny? I dont remember

Dip said before death they scum read balki and bunny but didn’t chose bunny for the duel since balki was the other wagon. No real explanation behind them other than it but since dip flipped town that is what I am going off of

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Colby unfortunately it is D3, your free pass has expired

Is anyone down for a colby vote? I have no reason to townread him and when i see his posts, only go ‘hm this is pingy but hes new’

I agree but I dont like that this is coming from you so no I dont

Hey dont let me stop you man. You do you, its a free country

[Ezio]

No but I'd also not consider food being even close to a BB style.

Can you rephrase that with fewer negatives?

food is so amazing at being a player that I consider him to be his own tier of awesomeness.

BB is also the best. Like, clearly the best. He also wins all the cases he makes, all the ones he makes, like all the time, every time.

Got it. My takeaway is that him spouting bullshit like this is NAI for him.

Fwiw I don't think you should be voting Eden for knowing about the necromancer.
I remember Eden as the type of player who would read the role document fully before joining a game.

[Col7by]

I believe there to be a thread somewhere that dip listed him as a scum read along with balki. Going off this and the fact he had voted dip after I toe read him was the origin of this. Then Bunny finding me sus came after me accusing him

Im not sure I buy it ngl, what were Dip's and Balki's cases for Bunny? I dont remember

Dip said before death they scum read balki and bunny but didn’t chose bunny for the duel since balki was the other wagon. No real explanation behind them other than it but since dip flipped town that is what I am going off of

I bumped the original message dip had and my follow up it like 9 hours ago now so it’s somewhere lost in the pages but it’s there

[FlaviusAetius]

##Vote yoyo
Historically replaced players have a higher likelihood of being mafia aligned.
Bai.

Is this the best you can do at this stage of the game?

Exactly man I want to see Demon's real argument for yoyo I dont want to just ride the stab the sub's wave

[Yoyoyozo]

A.Ghug was offered a tadpole. Rejected and shot
B.Ghug was NKd and saved and then shot anyway

[President Eden]

This duel near EOD2 is compelling mechanically. It's rare that you get such a direct, obvious "formation point" where everyone knows what the wagons will be. Rarer still for it to be TvS.

Initial reactions - Squigs, sweetandcool town. They must be either town or bussing scum. Just from a glance at the state of the wagons, I don't clearly see an incentive to be bussing a teammate at that point. I haven't read their takes on Balki yet, so I reserve the right to change my mind. (That said, they generically seem towny to me in the posting since I joined.)

foodcoats joining the town wagon when he did - T-00:15, putting D&W at 7 votes behind Balki's 8 - is "too scummy to be scum." It's not enough to save Balki, and Balki falling on his sword with no kills and self votes right afterward would severely undermine scum!foodcoats trying to save him. You'd also expect that scum!foodcoats sees Balki fall on his sword and takes the excuse not to be on the wagon. Basically, anyone with alignment info would realize how brazen this looks in hindsight, so he's not someone with alignment info, so he's town.

Conversely, Foxcastle and lfischl moved late from town to scum, after Balki waved the white flag. This is what I'd expect from mafia needing to adjust. (I recognize this implicates my slot, do with that what you will.)

I tend to think the people who were on D&W before the duel went public and who stayed there are town, provided they knew about the duel. Not ironclad, but when you have alignment information on a TvS wagon, and you can be pretty confident both wagons will flip either way, it's really hard to stay on the town wagon first. There's WIFOM in there, but generally mafia players are risk-averse in those situations. Balki practically surrendering furthers that.

Based on timing, that suggests Demon, worcej, and Yoyoyozo are town, but notably it does not suggest anything about Jamie, because he wasn't around for EOD.

I think Fox is the vote I want today. I can at least point to something reasonably objective about it in the limited time I've got.

[worcej]

I also am a little meh on Dousing and Colby, mostly for them being just OMGUS'ing but I'll give them time to improve.

I know Monarch can participate and assume she's busy irl. Timezones also are rough as fuck for her and she misses EOD phases all the time.

Honestly I feel like even IF she was more active, that EoD phase thing is still going to make her not as active as we'd like. Its going to be hard to get a read on her no matter what

100% - I've fallen victim to that and she usually gets killed off for that. It's too easy to default to and that's why I'm a little turned off on by yoyo going that way.

At best, it's 16-4 now (no tadpole). At worst it's 15-5 (tadpole consumed). We're at a balanced started game still so I don't have an urgency to policy kill lurkers.

[FlaviusAetius]

Im not sure I buy it ngl, what were Dip's and Balki's cases for Bunny? I dont remember

Dip said before death they scum read balki and bunny but didn’t chose bunny for the duel since balki was the other wagon. No real explanation behind them other than it but since dip flipped town that is what I am going off of

I bumped the original message dip had and my follow up it like 9 hours ago now so it’s somewhere lost in the pages but it’s there

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=89&part=p1-61 there's the complete day 1 i would find it for you but right now im catching up

[worcej]

Can you rephrase that with fewer negatives?

food is so amazing at being a player that I consider him to be his own tier of awesomeness.

BB is also the best. Like, clearly the best. He also wins all the cases he makes, all the ones he makes, like all the time, every time.

Got it. My takeaway is that him spouting bullshit like this is NAI for him.

Fwiw I don't think you should be voting Eden for knowing about the necromancer.
I remember Eden as the type of player who would read the role document fully before joining a game.

FWIW, read my wall.

[Col7by]

Colby unfortunately it is D3, your free pass has expired

Is anyone down for a colby vote? I have no reason to townread him and when i see his posts, only go ‘hm this is pingy but hes new’

Hi will nice of you to join us. I remember originally you were my first scum read because I thought you were trying to get on my good side asking for my opinion day 1. I called you out and then you disappeared so my thoughts on you left as well. I haven’t played with anyone so don’t know your normal behavior so have no read on you right now

[BunnyGo]

Colby unfortunately it is D3, your free pass has expired

Is anyone down for a colby vote? I have no reason to townread him and when i see his posts, only go ‘hm this is pingy but hes new’

##vote col

[FlaviusAetius]

I also am a little meh on Dousing and Colby, mostly for them being just OMGUS'ing but I'll give them time to improve.

I know Monarch can participate and assume she's busy irl. Timezones also are rough as fuck for her and she misses EOD phases all the time.

Honestly I feel like even IF she was more active, that EoD phase thing is still going to make her not as active as we'd like. Its going to be hard to get a read on her no matter what

100% - I've fallen victim to that and she usually gets killed off for that. It's too easy to default to and that's why I'm a little turned off on by yoyo going that way.

At best, it's 16-4 now (no tadpole). At worst it's 15-5 (tadpole consumed). We're at a balanced started game still so I don't have an urgency to policy kill lurkers.

NGL I think we can officially say we dont have anymore lurkers I think we have reached the stage of the game where everyone has talked for at least one day and been active during that day that we cant call anyone a lurker anymores. The lurkers that did exist were replaced too, and their subs were not inactive. I stil believe in my designation theory but we gotta look to Day 1-->Half of Day 2 for that

[Col7by]

Dip said before death they scum read balki and bunny but didn’t chose bunny for the duel since balki was the other wagon. No real explanation behind them other than it but since dip flipped town that is what I am going off of

I bumped the original message dip had and my follow up it like 9 hours ago now so it’s somewhere lost in the pages but it’s there

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=89&part=p1-61 there's the complete day 1 i would find it for you but right now im catching up

It was at the end of day 2 right before dip and balki were killed. I’m on my phone so it’s a struggle looking through these. I’m gone for about 2 hours but can try to look when I get back, especially if you’re able to provide another link to EOD2