Mafia Olympics - Gold Medal Game- Fantasy Football - Official Game Thread

[bozotheclown]

Ok, we can fight about it later, since we'll both have been wrong. Prove it with your vote.

No, that is a loss if you are town. You are the one at risk of being DKed, you can RB Fluminator and worcej if you want to convince me you are town. Otherwise, you should be trying to convince Fluminator or worcej.

Yet you're willing to RB yourself, just not with the person I want RBed with you.

Glitter please see this and consider that the team is almost certainly Flum/bozo if I'm town, since they're totally unwilling to put both of themselves in the roleblock.

I have repeatedly said I would be willing to do it, but I can guarantee you it does not help town if you are town, so why would I want that?

[Fluminator]

Ok, we can fight about it later, since we'll both have been wrong. Prove it with your vote.

No, that is a loss if you are town. You are the one at risk of being DKed, you can RB Fluminator and worcej if you want to convince me you are town. Otherwise, you should be trying to convince Fluminator or worcej.

Yet you're willing to RB yourself, just not with the person I want RBed with you.

Glitter please see this and consider that the team is almost certainly Flum/bozo if I'm town, since they're totally unwilling to put both of themselves in the roleblock.

I've said I have a second roster available and curious what Worcej and Glitterl's desires are.

If I have the agency to choose between not roleblocking myself or roleblocking myself though, I'll choose not roleblocking myself. Anyone would pick that.

[bozotheclown]

I acknowledge that would be your perspective if you are town, but I don't know that, and I know I am town.

If you and BunnyGo are town, as you seems so sure each other are, the only possibility I am worried about is Fluminator/worcej.

ghug and I both wanted to get Flum...

Do you have any doubts?

We even both opened with two different cases that was the pair

Then RB them.

[ghug]

Yes I understand that. But I’m not convinced they’re both scum.

Do you think the two people you put in RB are more likely to be a team?

The RBs are only relevant if I'm town. If I'm town, four people pushed to kill me. That group contains at least one and probably both mafia, so they have to look to me (100% town in the case where the RB is relevant) to decide the RB for them or the Mafia have enough influence to change the vote.

I would agree that if you are town, I was probably buddied and 2 of them are scum. And I have a better shot at being correct because I know I'm town and it's between 3 for me where it's between 4 for you.

And the other three also argue that and we're back where we started.

[Fluminator]

Look, I'm fucking consenting to die here. We have established there is a gamewinning strategy for town if we kill scum. If you believe I'm scum, what harm is there in compromising on my RB votes?

This is disingenuous and you know it. No one's ever 100% certain someone is scum. I've been wrong before

You haven't been remotely willing to consider it today.

If that was the case, I wouldn't care about your alleged reads when it comes to roleblocking.

[ghug]

ghug and I both wanted to get Flum...

Do you have any doubts?

We even both opened with two different cases that was the pair

Then RB them.

Bozo, we've both come around to scumreading you because the alternative is that you're being moronically obstinate and unintentionally duplicitous as town. I don't think that's what's happening, but if it is, it's your fault.

[ghug]

This is disingenuous and you know it. No one's ever 100% certain someone is scum. I've been wrong before

You haven't been remotely willing to consider it today.

If that was the case, I wouldn't care about your alleged reads when it comes to roleblocking.

It certainly seems like you don't care about my reads when it comes to roleblocking

[Fluminator]

Do you think the two people you put in RB are more likely to be a team?

The RBs are only relevant if I'm town. If I'm town, four people pushed to kill me. That group contains at least one and probably both mafia, so they have to look to me (100% town in the case where the RB is relevant) to decide the RB for them or the Mafia have enough influence to change the vote.

I would agree that if you are town, I was probably buddied and 2 of them are scum. And I have a better shot at being correct because I know I'm town and it's between 3 for me where it's between 4 for you.

And the other three also argue that and we're back where we started.

I don't think the other 3 are arguing though. Worcej is allegedly coming back soon so we'll see what he thinks.

[Fluminator]

You haven't been remotely willing to consider it today.

If that was the case, I wouldn't care about your alleged reads when it comes to roleblocking.

It certainly seems like you don't care about my reads when it comes to roleblocking

Well obviously not your scumread on me since I know that's wrong. But the other ones.
I might have actually put Glitter up as the other role block if it wasn't for your scumread on Worcej and townread on Glitter.

[bozotheclown]

We even both opened with two different cases that was the pair

Then RB them.

Bozo, we've both come around to scumreading you because the alternative is that you're being moronically obstinate and unintentionally duplicitous as town. I don't think that's what's happening, but if it is, it's your fault.

OK, I still don't believe you are town.

It could be Fluminator/worcej, but Fluminator seems more like town to me than you. Maybe he has pocketed me by not accusing me of being deceitful about out of game things.

I am willing to RB Fluminator and worcej, he can RB me and worcej, and you can decide which to go with. Is that fair? Then it can be your fault if you and BunnyGo are town and you pick wrong.

[BunnyGo]

Then RB them.

Bozo, we've both come around to scumreading you because the alternative is that you're being moronically obstinate and unintentionally duplicitous as town. I don't think that's what's happening, but if it is, it's your fault.

OK, I still don't believe you are town.

It could be Fluminator/worcej, but Fluminator seems more like town to me than you. Maybe he has pocketed me by not accusing me of being deceitful about out of game things.

I am willing to RB Fluminator and worcej, he can RB me and worcej, and you can decide which to go with. Is that fair? Then it can be your fault if you and BunnyGo are town and you pick wrong.

What do you think this suggestion sounds like?

ANY of your suggestions?

They sound like bad negotiations...Like you're negotiating in bad faith with someone you know is town

[BunnyGo]

If that was the case, I wouldn't care about your alleged reads when it comes to roleblocking.

It certainly seems like you don't care about my reads when it comes to roleblocking

Well obviously not your scumread on me since I know that's wrong. But the other ones.
I might have actually put Glitter up as the other role block if it wasn't for your scumread on Worcej and townread on Glitter.

Why Glitter?

[bozotheclown]

We even both opened with two different cases that was the pair

Then RB them.

Bozo, we've both come around to scumreading you because the alternative is that you're being moronically obstinate and unintentionally duplicitous as town. I don't think that's what's happening, but if it is, it's your fault.

You both seemed to be scum reading me during N4 though, without ever mentioning that I was pushing for the sweetandcool DK.

[BunnyGo]

Then RB them.

Bozo, we've both come around to scumreading you because the alternative is that you're being moronically obstinate and unintentionally duplicitous as town. I don't think that's what's happening, but if it is, it's your fault.

You both seemed to be scum reading me during N4 though, without ever mentioning that I was pushing for the sweetandcool DK.

Yes...that's totally why I went back, started reading the game from the start, and then tried to build a case after staring at Glitter's vote block for 20 minutes based on what popped out at me.

Totally...

[BunnyGo]

Then RB them.

Bozo, we've both come around to scumreading you because the alternative is that you're being moronically obstinate and unintentionally duplicitous as town. I don't think that's what's happening, but if it is, it's your fault.

You both seemed to be scum reading me during N4 though, without ever mentioning that I was pushing for the sweetandcool DK.

You think maybe you're projecting a bit?

That there was literally no celebration for catching sweet, and your comment was "I bet Bunny faked it all"

[bozotheclown]

Bozo, we've both come around to scumreading you because the alternative is that you're being moronically obstinate and unintentionally duplicitous as town. I don't think that's what's happening, but if it is, it's your fault.

OK, I still don't believe you are town.

It could be Fluminator/worcej, but Fluminator seems more like town to me than you. Maybe he has pocketed me by not accusing me of being deceitful about out of game things.

I am willing to RB Fluminator and worcej, he can RB me and worcej, and you can decide which to go with. Is that fair? Then it can be your fault if you and BunnyGo are town and you pick wrong.

What do you think this suggestion sounds like?

ANY of your suggestions?

They sound like bad negotiations...Like you're negotiating in bad faith with someone you know is town

I don't know ghug is town though, and I suspect he is not. What you are missing here, if you are town, is that if ghug is town, I know RBing me and Fluminator will result in a likely town loss, so RBing Fluminator and worcej is the only thing that could be useful.

[Fluminator]

It certainly seems like you don't care about my reads when it comes to roleblocking

Well obviously not your scumread on me since I know that's wrong. But the other ones.
I might have actually put Glitter up as the other role block if it wasn't for your scumread on Worcej and townread on Glitter.

Why Glitter?

If she is, ghug's her most likely teammate, so I'm content leaving Glitter be this round.

But I double checked and she mentioned her notes before ghug asked her to post them, and I could see her having a good time in the back staying out of the controversy all game and preparing that to get strong townread.

I also still struggle to see Sweet going against her like that without them agreeing beforehand from what I know of Sweet, but ghug said that's not out of character for him.

[BunnyGo]

OK, I still don't believe you are town.

It could be Fluminator/worcej, but Fluminator seems more like town to me than you. Maybe he has pocketed me by not accusing me of being deceitful about out of game things.

I am willing to RB Fluminator and worcej, he can RB me and worcej, and you can decide which to go with. Is that fair? Then it can be your fault if you and BunnyGo are town and you pick wrong.

What do you think this suggestion sounds like?

ANY of your suggestions?

They sound like bad negotiations...Like you're negotiating in bad faith with someone you know is town

I don't know ghug is town though, and I suspect he is not. What you are missing here, if you are town, is that if ghug is town, I know RBing me and Fluminator will result in a likely town loss, so RBing Fluminator and worcej is the only thing that could be useful.

If I'm correct about ghug, then his selection looks pretty good to me...

I'd have gone with worcej Flum until you continued this shit. It looked scummy day 4, and it continues to look scummy today.

[BunnyGo]

Well obviously not your scumread on me since I know that's wrong. But the other ones.
I might have actually put Glitter up as the other role block if it wasn't for your scumread on Worcej and townread on Glitter.

Why Glitter?

If she is, ghug's her most likely teammate, so I'm content leaving Glitter be this round.

But I double checked and she mentioned her notes before ghug asked her to post them, and I could see her having a good time in the back staying out of the controversy all game and preparing that to get strong townread.

I also still struggle to see Sweet going against her like that without them agreeing beforehand from what I know of Sweet, but ghug said that's not out of character for him.

That's....a decent read...

[BunnyGo]

Why Glitter?

If she is, ghug's her most likely teammate, so I'm content leaving Glitter be this round.

But I double checked and she mentioned her notes before ghug asked her to post them, and I could see her having a good time in the back staying out of the controversy all game and preparing that to get strong townread.

I also still struggle to see Sweet going against her like that without them agreeing beforehand from what I know of Sweet, but ghug said that's not out of character for him.

That's....a decent read...

I've never known sweet to take a swing at any new player