MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[Vecna]

Guys, there's no way Chaqa stole ghugs replacement head. Bitch didn't even know we started with a night phase.

The gm's have been very good with sending reminders this game if you havent posted yet. Id assume they do the same for reminding people about their items.

[Vecna]

@Durga, Vecna makes a lot of sense as your partner and Yav also has emerged as a suspect for me. But like I said earlier I am not going to let you bait me anymore.

Bait you anymore? She's asking for reasoning. Youre providing ZERO.

You havent provided reasoning for anything yet. Just lame ass OOG influenced whine

[rdrivera2005]

@ND

So there was a time where you and I talked regularly. We ran games togetherm and we were friends. I mailed you artwork after trump won. We had many heated debates. Youve said im a moron.

I buy your durga read. If we lynch durga can we lynch worcej after and simply win the game?

Also keep in mind I think yer right about durga. I think youre town. Tell me who you scumread after durga and why

Brain, we have two players that are doing just nothing to advance the game: ND and Flash. I am pretty confident one of then is scum, because the right play as scum now is to have at least one of them flying under the radar.

I am pretty sure Worcej is town, for the way he is playing and because if he was fake claiming he will have a better explanation. Actions without much reasoning are more usually town then scum.

I am also completely torn on Durga and Yav. I have moments I just clear both but then Durga point a really weird comment from Yav about his item. And then you push Durga again and her reaction isn't what I expect from town Durga. I just don't feel comfortable voting them.

What ND have done for you townread him?

[Vecna]

The sc2 character had 1 armor. Worcej presented it as having 1 (+1).

He was claiming both roles. Both of which are the 2 doubled up roles

This probably means theres an upgrade that can further increase the units armor by +1 (which actually matches with ingame, there is one single upgrade that gives a further +1 armor to the unit.)

[Jamiet99uk]

##Call GM - This is completely contrary to the role description. Sticky is stated to only work when it is visited by someone else.

The "Sticky" seems to be causing some confusion. I will try to provide as much clarity as I can.

1. Sticky is a passive characteristic. It does not give the person who is Sticky an action. It is not a visit. The Sticky person cannot choose when the Sticky effects do or do not happen. They are passive and triggered automatically.

2. Sticky is triggered on the first night that the Sticky person is targeted. The key phrase here is "first night" not "first visit". Thus if, on the same night, two different players visit the Sticky player with an attempted action, and the Sticky has not been visited before that night, then both those two visitors would suffer the effects.

3. When the Sticky effect is triggered, all item based actions targeting the Sticky person will fail. (Note that the sticky does not, therefore, protect from the Mafia NK, since this does not involve the use of an item).

4. When the Sticky effect is triggered, any items in the possession of the visiting player(s), whether or not they relate to the action being performed, become attached to the Sticky player and fall into the Sticky player's possession. A player losing their item(s) in this way will be notified that their items are gone.

5. Once all of this has processed, the Sticky effect wears off and will not affect visits on future nights.

I hope this is of assistance.

[y2kjbk]

Has worcej ever been scum in previous games?

[Vecna]

I am so sick and tired of explaining the same shit over and over.

STOP.
RUINING.
THIS.
GAME.

y2k and you need to SIT THE FUCK DOWN and sheep someone else. You both, combined, have struck out twice on lynches. You both are sewing in retarded theories.

All the doubt I had about this slot is even further gone

[y2kjbk]

Worcej definitely did NOT blow his lid when he claimed judge in the no-reveal and I remained convinced he was scum right up to the very end when Squigs was knocking sense into me.

[Vecna]

My scum reads at this point are still:
1. Durga - same shit as before.
2. Yav - just treading along doing nothing.

@rdr/Vecna - can one of you fucking try to take charge of this shit-storm. If you're town, rise up mofos - we need a leader.

If you want me to lead, then sheep my reads.

The scum is all in Y2K/ND/Rdrivera (<- Most likely) Yav/DemonRHK/flash (<- backups)

I refuse to believe Durga is scum here. Her play is extremely genuine frustrated town. She has a clear thought pattern, and she thinks the right type of things are scummy. She actually thinks about stuff in a town-minded manner. I dont see a single agenda there.

I also refuse BB got so lucky as to hit Bozo the cop N1 and was already playing ahead of time to hit him. There were no softs that indicated that, unless im really bad at reading bozo. His play is extremely fucked up there, and he should indeed just be quiet here.

And I refuse to believe youre scum here (Worcej).

The lynch today here really should be ND or Rdrivera. I think whichever of these two ends up flipping scum is most likely scum with Y2K.

The read on Y2k is 100% based on recent play, ignoring items and shit. It might be recency bias and im not completely certain. But his posts dont feel to be following a true town mindset. Im not seeing it. A lot of it feels disingenuous and nothing like Y2k in Tinyhunt. I know I stated differently earlier, but that is what it is for me right now.

[Vecna]

I mean im satisfied in the sense that youre scum. And one of rivera or durga is absolutely mortified that yer going down in flames. On the off chance theyre scum together then good job to them white knighting is a thing. Ill keep that in mind.

No further interrogations for now medic with armor bonus.

Chill out. This may be pretty important in lylo when yer still alive. Your actions may come under a microscope. Right now yer looking pretty scummy. No reason to freak out like you are. Theres very little chaos in my questioning you. You didnt use your items in a very logical manner. And fwiw I think youre just simply smarter than the actions you claimed to have taken.

You are really so far off here its not even funny.

[Vecna]

Yav isnt treading along doing nothing. Yav is trying his heart out to use his vote and pressure to stay resonsibly aggressive. Hes really frantic as town. When hes scum he just kinda lurks and doesnt throw weight around. Yav is among the most active-most aggressive players today and most days. Hes erratic and just doesnt know how to post as anything other than whatever emotion hes feeling. Thats sincere yav- and the yav we can usually read well. The only person who cant read obvious town yav is ppl like vash.

Even though the tone/content of the Yav posts is slightly different from earlier town games of his, I mostly agree with this.

[y2kjbk]

So Vecna refuses to believe worcej or Durga are scum, and is somehow convinced I'm scum because I "don't have a town mindset". We're in trouble.

[y2kjbk]

Vecna, your horrible reads almost derailed that tinyhunt game.

[Durga]

I don't really know what to do in a game where almost everyone scum reads me for no reason and just sort of ignores my pints. So I'm just going to ##vote ND ##vote end

[Durga]

So Vecna refuses to believe worcej or Durga are scum, and is somehow convinced I'm scum because I "don't have a town mindset". We're in trouble.

What's actually trouble for town is you and brainbomb.

Vecna, how does it make sense for y2k to have saved bb as scum...

[Durga]

@rd the post on you thinking I react differently is a load of bs. How is it different than my usual meta?

[y2kjbk]

Save it Durga, I haven't spammed since D2, yes I haven't had great reads but you've got a stick up your ass for some reason that I'm trying to nail down as either scum-indicative, or you're just literally a more angry person than ND.

[Durga]

Save it Durga, I haven't spammed since D2, yes I haven't had great reads but you've got a stick up your ass for some reason that I'm trying to nail down as either scum-indicative, or you're just literally a more angry person than ND.

Oh my god you've actually turned in bb. I'm literally a more angry person than ND. Do you have any real reasons for your scum read or is this another "I dislike you as a person" thing I should continue to ignore?

[y2kjbk]

When did I ever say I dislike you in my presenting my suspicion of you as of the previous night?

[Durga]

When did I ever say I dislike you in my presenting my suspicion of you as of the previous night?

If you're scum reading me because you think I'm angry that's exactly what it seems like. What's your case then?