Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Vecna]

oh, yeah i stopped typing the gm question halfway through when i realized my idiocy, then threw in the edit forgetting the statement wasnt finished.

For a second I thought Tham was simply covering for an afk scum jailer that forget to enter a jail command.

Then I remembered it was brainbomb, who basically is never afk

[Vecna]

btw, did the alien ignore the scum pleas, or was jamiet or someone else saved?

Also, I guess this result at least rules out Kgray being the alien

[ghug]

As for the tham report, it would give that result for every role still alive, minus the 2 non-MIB scum? Potentially even one other non-MIB scum if they were framed.

Regardless, if he were simply town, then the only mistake the GM couldve made is forgetting the cop is simply insane?

However, how stupid would the scum have to be to jail their own framer guy?

Who says he was actually jailed, or that he himself wasn't framed?

This is a good point. There's nothing in this setup to stop the Mafia killing the person that has been jailed. The MP-Jailor is not protective. It's just a roleblocker that also creates a temporary QT with the person being roleblocked.

Scum could have Jailed their kill target and then scum!thamrick, knowing nobody else alive can claim jailed, claims "I was jailed" to try to get towncred.

Tham was the only non-poster, so they would have been saving the jail for cred, they just wouldn't have needed to prevent him from using his own action to do so.

[Jamiet99uk]

btw, did the alien ignore the scum pleas, or was jamiet or someone else saved?

Also, I guess this result at least rules out Kgray being the alien

I have no information suggesting I was saved. I assume the Alien must have infected someone last night while the Mafia were being unkind to Bob.

[Jamiet99uk]

Scum could have Jailed their kill target and then scum!thamrick, knowing nobody else alive can claim jailed, claims "I was jailed" to try to get towncred.

Tham was the only non-poster, so they would have been saving the jail for cred, they just wouldn't have needed to prevent him from using his own action to do so.

Oh, yes.

[celaph]

I should say that I was not at a campsite N1 so I'm the only N1 infect.

[celaph]

btw, did the alien ignore the scum pleas, or was jamiet or someone else saved?

Also, I guess this result at least rules out Kgray being the alien

It's also possible that both alien and maf hit Bona.

[damo666]

Also, today is election day in the netherlands. Polls predict that our population does not understand the concept of judging the current government for their failures with your vote.

Our government probably handled the issue concerning facemasks probably just as poorly as trump did. Our country has had a bloody curfew for 3 months now. Even though they have reopened elementary schools and those are now responsible for a significant portion of the spread, they continue doing a poor job on vaccination efforts, which still mainly focus on elderly people while the health sector staff still has not even been fully vaccinated.

I guess we should salute them though. Keeping our country in quarantine is a creative solution to a bigger problem, and probably the only way were ever going to get anywhere halfway to meeting climate goals, since their other policy seems to indicatee they dont really care.

Conducting an election around current news is politiclly naive

[celaph]

btw, did the alien ignore the scum pleas, or was jamiet or someone else saved?

Also, I guess this result at least rules out Kgray being the alien

I have no information suggesting I was saved. I assume the Alien must have infected someone last night while the Mafia were being unkind to Bob.

*unkind to Bona I assume?

[damo666]

And to be fair, not many countries 'got it right' with COVID. The notable exception I know of is Iceland, but when your country only is ~300k people, it's easy to not FUBAR that shit up.

New Zealand.

Population 5 million, 26 deaths from Covid-19.

Jamie I am really disappointed in you. Consider

[Jamiet99uk]

btw, did the alien ignore the scum pleas, or was jamiet or someone else saved?

Also, I guess this result at least rules out Kgray being the alien

I have no information suggesting I was saved. I assume the Alien must have infected someone last night while the Mafia were being unkind to Bob.

*unkind to Bona I assume?

I mean Big Bob. Which was Bona's flavour name.

[Jamiet99uk]

And to be fair, not many countries 'got it right' with COVID. The notable exception I know of is Iceland, but when your country only is ~300k people, it's easy to not FUBAR that shit up.

New Zealand.

Population 5 million, 26 deaths from Covid-19.

Jamie I am really disappointed in you. Consider

Consider what?

[Jamiet99uk]

:sudden silence:

[rdrivera2005]

As for the tham report, it would give that result for every role still alive, minus the 2 non-MIB scum? Potentially even one other non-MIB scum if they were framed.

Regardless, if he were simply town, then the only mistake the GM couldve made is forgetting the cop is simply insane?

However, how stupid would the scum have to be to jail their own framer guy?

Who says he was actually jailed, or that he himself wasn't framed?

This is a good point. There's nothing in this setup to stop the Mafia killing the person that has been jailed. The MP-Jailor is not protective. It's just a roleblocker that also creates a temporary QT with the person being roleblocked.

Scum could have Jailed their kill target and then scum!thamrick, knowing nobody else alive can claim jailed, claims "I was jailed" to try to get towncred.

This didn't happen and I can be sure about it.

[worcej]

Note that my scan result means that either:

1) Celaph is the Alien, or:

2) Celaph was infected by the Alien on N1 and the Alien subsequently decided not to manipulate Celaph's vote.

Alien didn’t need to manipulate the vote last phase, so I don’t find it shocking to not have done it.

[worcej]

I think we have to roll the dice. Celaph would make for a pretty decent N1 infect as well, but I dont think we can gamble on that being the case and ignore this.

So we need to take him out?

Why not have someone use a dna kit thingy on him?

[worcej]

As for the tham report, it would give that result for every role still alive, minus the 2 non-MIB scum? Potentially even one other non-MIB scum if they were framed.

Regardless, if he were simply town, then the only mistake the GM couldve made is forgetting the cop is simply insane?

However, how stupid would the scum have to be to jail their own framer guy?

Realize the scum had BB on their team...

If he is town, do you think ND/darg were that sloppy to get the result wrong without cause?

The other issue I see is maybe the framer had orders in and changed them at the last second and they missed it? This is pure speculation though.

[Jamiet99uk]

Note that my scan result means that either:

1) Celaph is the Alien, or:

2) Celaph was infected by the Alien on N1 and the Alien subsequently decided not to manipulate Celaph's vote.

Alien didn’t need to manipulate the vote last phase, so I don’t find it shocking to not have done it.

I did not suggest that I was shocked.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't know if it's time to hunt for Alien or not, that's my biggest doubt.

Hoe likely is Alien Thamrick choose Celaph to infect N1?

[Foxcastle]

Ah, this is disappointing. My item was stolen.