M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[Durga]

nearly forgot

##voteFlum

Maniac, what happened to this Flum read?

Bozo, how much do you think summit was bussed?

I think it is likely 1 or 2 of the primary scum team voted for him early, and the rest switched to him at EOD if they were online. You, Fluminator, damo, and MF switched your votes off of summit at some point, I think you are all good candidates for bussing.

bozo, why haven't you pushed anyone on this list?

Was thinking gerneally about potential busters of summit and I think kgray is pretty unlikely. She has shown she can definitely bus, but as someone who saw firsthand how summit struggled last time, I don’t think she would immediately throw him on the tracks this game.

I understand the angle of bussing the potential weak link, but I don’t know if kgray would be cold blooded enough to do that to someone she just played with as scum and saw struggle.

Yeah, so obviously people are free to believe this or not, but for the record after the game: there's no way I'd have been so harsh on summit if he were my teammate. I genuinely like him and I felt bad about my push even though I was convinced he was scum.

When did webDip mafia get so wholesome?

does kgray really not do this to summit?

[Durga]

What do you make of Durga's reaction to my gun claim, Flum?

Honestly not sure yet.

WHy did you feel the need to ask flum, ghug??

Few thoughts:
Tom looks good at EOD, 14 minutes out moving from Maniac – Summit when we were tied 8-8 is more likely to be Town motivated IMHO, yes people can bus, but this feels real to me.

Vecna also looks good. Seven minutes out and the day kill is far from certain and he makes summit kill very likely.

Bunny doesn’t look so good. If he is scum and he thinks another scum can maybe switch to save summit, he has given them the opportunity here by voting for maniac 4 mins out.

Damo doesn’t look great either.

Ghug & Moscow look town too, but we know looks can be deceiving.

Nothing Flum has done makes me question my theory that he tried to signal to me thinking I was the traitor.

I’ll happily vote Flum, Damo & Bunny.

I’ll take some convincing to vote Tom, Vecna, Ghug or Moscow.

What convinced you to vote Vecna then?

What do you make of Durga's reaction to my gun claim, Flum?

What reaction? I must've missed it...

She told me to shoot her and then hours later came back to take it seriously and tell everyone I'm scum.

hold up hold up hold up

you think, that me, saying that flum fake claimed gun as scum, and that no one in their right mind would give you a gun (which I was correct on, fyi) that means you're scum bc you fake claimed gun was me taking it seriously? heck maybe i was actually onto something

[Durga]

Ok I'm too tired I'll have to continue later

[Durga]

Ghug, I see you. Stop pretending you're jailed, we know you're not.

[Fluminator]

Starting with my HR reread.

Day 1: He didn't do much, but he did have a few posts of consistent pressure on Summit. He still looks really townie here, but summit was definitely bussed for whatever reason (maybe Maniac was scum or they thought he was the treatior). So the bus of summit is not a good enough reason for me to townread him anymore.
He does get a little salty when worcej doesn't list him as a main pusher of summit. He also gets salty when Prado credits Kgray and Tom for the daykill and not him lmao. With HR it's probably NAI since he does have an ego.

Night 1: his reads were almost identical to mine, so I can't really be suspicious of him there. He was still a townread at that point.

Day 2: he's one of the main pressers of Bunny and I think that was a fair daykill. Nothing too strange there.
He does currently mention Vecna was scummy as well, and at the time Vecna was so I agree with him there. I don't see anything too scummy here.

Night 2: Again, he looked town here. He seemed genuinely frustrated Bunny didn't get daykilled. He definitely thought he was not town. (But that's NAI because traitor/third party). But the frustration seemed real.

Day 3: Hammered Bunny. RIP

Yeah, up until now HR was a strong townread. So lets see what a day 4 reread has on him.
He engages with Vecna a lot and didn't start by voting him. He gave a bizarre defense of Flash saying we can get him anytime which is very weak, but it was the first HR did that stuck out to me, and it wasn't long before that where I was in the same "don't care about flash" state of mind.

He eventually switched to Vecna, and they badgered each other more. Vecna was doing really far fetched theories on HR. I guess since HR was the one facing them I could see him missing the obvious towntells Vecna was giving off since he was in the thick of it. But the fact he actually engaged with Vecna while voting for him was good to do as well.

I think I'm willing to keep HR as a slight townread.

[Fluminator]

I'm almost content just calling it there and assuming ghug and kgray are scum with flash, and wildcard Maniac or Bozo.

I suppose I should reread them too although ghug's ISO is always so long lol.

[Fluminator]

Who do you think are flash's teammates?

im sus of maniac (but don't wanna vote him yet bc i just don't know about EoD1), nook, and there's a deep scum likely somewhere that I jsut can't figure out, if it's you i'm gonna flip out, i honestly think we're all ignoring kgray too much too but frankly idk.

Don't worry I'm town :)

Everyone says she's great at scum but I can't see it at all here. What does she do that's so amazing.

I'm not usually a believer in scumslips, but what on earth was ghug trying to say here.

Don't worry I'm town :)

Everyone says she's great at scum but I can't see it at all here. What does she do that's so amazing.

Well you wouldn't see it, I'm not scum here.

Not that I can't see you being great as scum, but I can't see you being scum even though you're supposedly good at it.

I still don't understand.

[Fluminator]

The last game I played with ghug, I didn't catch him as scum until he danced around voting his partner Durga despite claiming to scumread her no matter how much I pressured him to. (Durga was an obvscum that game). He doesn't love bussing his partners.

I'm getting that exact same hesitance and dancing around voting for scum (who he claims he's scumreading) in flash. If flash does end up being town, I would likely go back to null on him, but if flash is scum, I am very certain ghug is.

His reasons for voting Vecna were very weak, and I just feel like ghug would have picked up on Vecna's towntells. (He even comments that he likes some of Vecna's posts not long before voting him. Did those posts mean nothing to you?)

And his summit vote was sketchy. He did exactly what I did as scum last game lol where he looked for alternatives that might stick. Even down to him not coming back until after I called him out on it (and then pretending it was his plan all along).
And I feel like he was absolutely PR fishing that eod 1.

[Fluminator]

And like, it's not a joke that the fact he's been widely townread until now is suspicious.

[Fluminator]

I don't feel like analyzing kgray right now.
I remember viewing her and HR very similarly for the first few days where I was generally in agreement with her. Her Summit push was really good.

The Vecna vote was really bad, but she is a newer player still. I think it probably equals out to being a null.

So I'd go Ghug > Kgray > HR in terms of scummiest players who lead the Vecna wagon.

[Fluminator]

I realize a lot of this analysis is under the assumption flash is scum.
I'd really like him killed lmao.

I hope people realize that flash jumping on last minute to vote the counterwagon goes against the persona flash has been pretending to have about being fine dying all game.

Vecna joins the growing list of dead townies saying to kill flash so I'm hoping there are still enough players willing to vote him tomorrow.

[Durga]

im sus of maniac (but don't wanna vote him yet bc i just don't know about EoD1), nook, and there's a deep scum likely somewhere that I jsut can't figure out, if it's you i'm gonna flip out, i honestly think we're all ignoring kgray too much too but frankly idk.

Don't worry I'm town :)

Everyone says she's great at scum but I can't see it at all here. What does she do that's so amazing.

I'm not usually a believer in scumslips, but what on earth was ghug trying to say here.

Well you wouldn't see it, I'm not scum here.

Not that I can't see you being great as scum, but I can't see you being scum even though you're supposedly good at it.

I still don't understand.

I don't get what you don't get

[Fluminator]

His first post is saying he doesn't see her good as scum. (Which why does he think that, he doesn't know her alignment.)

[Fluminator]

Ohhhhhhhhhh nm

[Fluminator]

I'm dumb
But ghug is still scum

[Durga]

Ohhh I see how you were reading it now. Lmao imagine

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE

EoN is in just under an hour.

Bo_Sox is attempting to pilot a light aircraft over the Mexican border, so I'll be dealing with the phase process. Please bear with me.

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE

I am having a home emergency. Sorry, you'll have to wait.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok first of all

NIGHT ENDED
PLEASE HOLD

[Jamiet99uk]

END OF NIGHT WHICHERVER ONE THIS WAS

"Ey, Speedy, your cousin, ee eees the slowes' mouse in all of Mexico"

"Si, but he eees a smart dude, it is hard to get the better of 'eeem"

"Well, not any more, Speedy, look......"

TOM BOMBADIL is dead - he was Slowpoke Rodriguez, the Vanilla Toon.

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