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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:19 pm
by Kitsune
KalelChase wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:08 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:57 am
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:41 am


Dargo, dude... why do you do shit like this every game. You know they're just going to steal your stone now, right?
It's no big deal. I'll give it to someone. Send suggestions.
Because I give it away, they won't kill me... And we'll have a clear. That wasy purpose with xorxes. Town can use clears. No one else was I sure of. But me.
So I self read. Last time I didn't use it on myself and damo shot me. So I cleared me and will pass it now.
Since it's slightly easier to find a Town & Townlean than Scum (inherently due to the ratio)... would it be a valid strategy for all Town to vote NoLynch every day to reduce our mortality rate in half, and then just pass the mindstone around. If you get it you reveal yourself and hand it to someone you really trust. It's a risk, but it would give us a bit more information, and the day it gets handed to scum it'll either be not used, or used on someone who can claim they didn't use it on themselves (and at that point would be Town so trust-able). Regardless whoever passed it to them (the last townie revealed can lead the next lynch). Biggest risk is it winds up with SK.
Ignoring the risk of this landing with the Serial killer for a moment (!!!) this feels like a very risky plan.

Losing the stone to a mafia would actually be worse if it happened in the first few hops, as the stone would probably get passed among themselves before we could perform a lynch to reclaim it and we’d exchange an infinity stone for a single confirmed scum kill, while there would be a constant risk of item thief or ninja taking the stone before it was officially passed to them.

With presumably 10:4:1 at the time of writing, or 6:4:1 if we exclude the Townclears and non-CCd Power Roles, this feels like suicide.

One vote for absolutely not, please.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:26 pm
by Foxcastle
Yeah, but anyone who gets the stone and doesn't reveal themself gets auto-lynched is the point. Even the mafia have an incentive to help lynch him at that point, besides the incentive to blend in with town.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:26 pm
by Foxcastle
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:26 pm
Yeah, but anyone who gets the stone and doesn't reveal themself gets auto-lynched is the point. Even the mafia have an incentive to help lynch him at that point, besides the incentive to blend in with town.
This was addressed to Kitsune, obviously.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:29 pm
by damo666
My top scum candidate is now ………

VAPOR

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:35 pm
by Chaqa
KalelChase wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:08 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:57 am
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:41 am


Dargo, dude... why do you do shit like this every game. You know they're just going to steal your stone now, right?
It's no big deal. I'll give it to someone. Send suggestions.
Because I give it away, they won't kill me... And we'll have a clear. That wasy purpose with xorxes. Town can use clears. No one else was I sure of. But me.
So I self read. Last time I didn't use it on myself and damo shot me. So I cleared me and will pass it now.
Since it's slightly easier to find a Town & Townlean than Scum (inherently due to the ratio)... would it be a valid strategy for all Town to vote NoLynch every day to reduce our mortality rate in half, and then just pass the mindstone around. If you get it you reveal yourself and hand it to someone you really trust. It's a risk, but it would give us a bit more information, and the day it gets handed to scum it'll either be not used, or used on someone who can claim they didn't use it on themselves (and at that point would be Town so trust-able). Regardless whoever passed it to them (the last townie revealed can lead the next lynch). Biggest risk is it winds up with SK.
This is a scum post. The mafia knows (and town should know) that the Item Thief happens before stones are passed, so this is KalEl trying to get town points for suggesting a on-the-surface good idea that is actually terrible for town, as they can mask where the stone is going and reveal people they already know are town as they pick us off one by one.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:36 pm
by Chaqa
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:26 pm
Yeah, but anyone who gets the stone and doesn't reveal themself gets auto-lynched is the point. Even the mafia have an incentive to help lynch him at that point, besides the incentive to blend in with town.
It's moot at this point... Dargo self-revealing means that the Stone is already mafia's, all they have to do is send the Item Thief to him.

I'm not going to pretend to ignore this fact on the whole "omg you're helping mafia" theme... because the mafia damn sure knows how their roles work, they already figured out they just got their third (or fourth, maybe) stone.

We need to lynch scum ASAP.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:40 pm
by Chaqa
Our next lynches should 100% be Maniac, Damo, and KalEl.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:49 pm
by damo666
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:40 pm
Our next lynches should 100% be Maniac, Damo, and KalEl.
Nope. Vapor, Maniac, Kalel and I'm not sure ... Kit or a Maniac busser (wide choice there).

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:53 pm
by Chaqa
damo666 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:49 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:40 pm
Our next lynches should 100% be Maniac, Damo, and KalEl.
Nope. Vapor, Maniac, Kalel and I'm not sure ... Kit or a Maniac busser (wide choice there).
Well, do we agree to lynch Vapor or Maniac next at least?

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:17 pm
by rdrivera2005
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:36 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:26 pm
Yeah, but anyone who gets the stone and doesn't reveal themself gets auto-lynched is the point. Even the mafia have an incentive to help lynch him at that point, besides the incentive to blend in with town.
It's moot at this point... Dargo self-revealing means that the Stone is already mafia's, all they have to do is send the Item Thief to him.

I'm not going to pretend to ignore this fact on the whole "omg you're helping mafia" theme... because the mafia damn sure knows how their roles work, they already figured out they just got their third (or fourth, maybe) stone.

We need to lynch scum ASAP.
I don't think we should discuss this right now. If I am alive tomorrow I have some thoughts about it.

Agree we need to lynch scum, my top scumreads now are Vapor, Kalel and Food.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:18 pm
by rdrivera2005
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:53 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:49 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:40 pm
Our next lynches should 100% be Maniac, Damo, and KalEl.
Nope. Vapor, Maniac, Kalel and I'm not sure ... Kit or a Maniac busser (wide choice there).
Well, do we agree to lynch Vapor or Maniac next at least?
I am not sure about Maniac, I was townreading him until D3, but he voted everyone yesterday but Vapor. I would lynch Vapor first

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:32 pm
by damo666
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:53 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:49 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:40 pm
Our next lynches should 100% be Maniac, Damo, and KalEl.
Nope. Vapor, Maniac, Kalel and I'm not sure ... Kit or a Maniac busser (wide choice there).
Well, do we agree to lynch Vapor or Maniac next at least?
Sure

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:34 pm
by Maniac
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:49 pm
Maniac was browsing the thread here and there after EoN, he’s lurking because he’s caught and I am not voting for anyone else next phase.
'tis true I've been reading the thread without commenting. I'm lost for words!

Also, I've been tied up in the mafia QT thread. it's all kicking off in there.

I will struggle to be on later. Quiz night again so I can't use my phone and driving. I doubt I'm going to be NK though as I'm still so heavily scum read.

RIP BunnyGo

@Dargo - you're normally a much better player than this.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:40 pm
by dargorygel
I won't be on much today... As some have pointed out, I double screwed up. I see no way for scum not to steal the stone from me tonight

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:45 pm
by dargorygel
I miscalculated... thinking (despite knowing better) that I could pass it off.

SO town needs to know that scum will have the mind stone.

I have wracked my brain to figure out how to get out of this ditch... but despite Kalel's plan (which I sorta spoke around days ago) I don't see how. That annoying "stone gift is at the end" thing.

I hoped that I could just hide in the corner, and people would not think of the stone passing rule... but I am sure scum have been aware of this even before others have brought it up in here.

So... they either will kill me (and the stone will go to the ninja) or they will thief it (and the stone goes to the IT.)

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:46 pm
by dargorygel
@maniac
I'm in a slump.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:53 pm
by Chaqa
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:18 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:53 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:49 pm


Nope. Vapor, Maniac, Kalel and I'm not sure ... Kit or a Maniac busser (wide choice there).
Well, do we agree to lynch Vapor or Maniac next at least?
I am not sure about Maniac, I was townreading him until D3, but he voted everyone yesterday but Vapor. I would lynch Vapor first
I'm fine lynching Vapor over Maniac, I suppose.

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:53 pm
by damo666
@darg is it because I blew you up or shot you or whatever? Downhill from there?

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:53 pm
by Chaqa
Maniac wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:34 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:49 pm
Maniac was browsing the thread here and there after EoN, he’s lurking because he’s caught and I am not voting for anyone else next phase.
'tis true I've been reading the thread without commenting. I'm lost for words!

Also, I've been tied up in the mafia QT thread. it's all kicking off in there.

I will struggle to be on later. Quiz night again so I can't use my phone and driving. I doubt I'm going to be NK though as I'm still so heavily scum read.

RIP BunnyGo

@Dargo - you're normally a much better player than this.
I know he's trying to joke, but I wonder if he's actually serious. I did that once, I think, just flat-out said I was mafia in a "joking" way... lol

Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:55 pm
by dargorygel
damo666 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:53 pm
@darg is it because I blew you up or shot you or whatever? Downhill from there?
lol
YES IT IS ALL DAMO's FAULT!

No... I think it's just a) these things happen. b) some RL things that SHOULD have stopped me from playing (that is NOT looking for sympathy... just an honest evaluation.) c) What success I HAVE had in the past was over-rated in my mind.