MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4141 Post by e.m.c^42 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:40 pm

I am NOT rP, as a matter of fact just a VT. I fear damo has been revered.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4142 Post by e.m.c^42 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:43 pm

##Call GM

Do reavers receive updated role PMs as they gain teammates? Or is their scope of information limited to situation at time of recruitment.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4143 Post by e.m.c^42 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:48 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:34 pm
What I don't get is why all 3 got a level 1 , like it's deliberate. I can see 2 and 3 doing it to signal to each other but why Tem unless he genuinely made a mistake in which case it must be something petty and easy to overlook.
We don't know if a level 1 infraction can be committed multiple times or not though - so it might be just one or two very careless reavers

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#4144 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:20 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:28 am
:tumbleweed:

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#4145 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:20 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:28 am
:tumbleweed:
I don't get this. Care to explain?

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#4146 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:20 pm

God dammit damo. Why Did you do this?

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#4147 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:21 pm

I am NOT rP, as a matter of fact just a VT. I fear damo has been revered.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4148 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:24 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:51 am
As I've said before, lynching me is pretty dumb. You're just letting the scum get another free NK (or two). I'm voting with town, as I've sworn to stay with xorxes (unless he's voting for me, obviously) so you're just losing a town vote and a town clear for no good reason. And you're assuming bunny hasn't been reavered as well. We know its two of the PRs. *Which ones* is the biggest question.

Again, GM has confirmed we can win together. If a known scum player who is a bounty comes up, I will let you know. We don't know who three of the scum are. I have two bounties left. Its more likely than not that we can win together.
##VOTE GOLDFINGER

Leaving BH alive is the best way to accidentally lose the game when the NK(s) take out his targets. It's absurd to say that "we can win together": the town role PM's explicitly state that town can only win when the BH has not.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4149 Post by Chaqa » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:25 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:16 pm
@damo
the Watch tells us that you weren't reavered last night.
We knew this already.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4150 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:37 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:40 pm
God dammit damo. Why Did you do this?
Hehehehe. Still makes me giggle.

@other reavers. If/when you trigger warnings can you make sure we have fun posts to copy paste?

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4151 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:40 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:25 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:16 pm
@damo
the Watch tells us that you weren't reavered last night.
We knew this already.
Do we? How do we know he wasn’t previously reavered? I’m having trouble keeping track. Can someone make a list of when PRs were at risk, and when they were confirmed still PR(and who confirmed them!!)

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4152 Post by damo666 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:53 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:16 pm
@damo
the Watch tells us that you weren't reavered last night.
Lol. Nobody was reavered last night. There were already three and they had a NK.

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#4153 Post by damo666 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:56 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:40 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:25 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:16 pm
@damo
the Watch tells us that you weren't reavered last night.
We knew this already.
Do we? How do we know he wasn’t previously reavered? I’m having trouble keeping track. Can someone make a list of when PRs were at risk, and when they were confirmed still PR(and who confirmed them!!)
I think Xorxes is the only 100% clear. I am quasi clear barring the far fetched squealing on Tem to give myself cover theory. Xorxes says dargo is as near as dammit clear but I can't remember the mechanics.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4154 Post by Chaqa » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:58 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:40 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:25 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:16 pm
@damo
the Watch tells us that you weren't reavered last night.
We knew this already.
Do we? How do we know he wasn’t previously reavered? I’m having trouble keeping track. Can someone make a list of when PRs were at risk, and when they were confirmed still PR(and who confirmed them!!)
There were 2 night kills last night, so no one was recruited

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4155 Post by damo666 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:05 pm

The path to victory

Lynch Goldie 7 1 3 0 (assuming BH)

Bunny commutes Tem so 1 nk so 6 1 3 0

Lynch assassin if I get a mafread, lynch one of the other 2 (and I think I know which one) if I get a vt read. 6 0 3 0

1 nk 5 0 3 0

Lynch Tem 5 0 2 0

1 nk 4 0 2 0

Lynch teacon 4 0 1 0

1 nk 3 0 1 0

Lynch Peter game over

If we mislynch tomorrow then it's 5 1 3 0, then if 2 nks and we've all but lost.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4156 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:27 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:24 pm
##VOTE GOLDFINGER

Leaving BH alive is the best way to accidentally lose the game when the NK(s) take out his targets. It's absurd to say that "we can win together": the town role PM's explicitly state that town can only win when the BH has not.
Yes, good point. Funny how Goldfinger seems to want us to forget this.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4157 Post by xorxes » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:40 pm

Kit used the word 'pattern' twice. I think it's relevant. That word struck me the first time she used it, and then she repeated it.

What was the pattern of Tem's D1 posts? How many posts per page and things like that.

The violation happened before EOD, so it can't be a rule about number of posts per phase.

On phone now, so I can't explore.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4158 Post by goldfinger0303 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:42 pm

@Jamiet and Foxcastle - GM confirmed that BH and town would both win together if the BH's last bounty was the last scum lynched.

:Deep breath:

The people who want to lynch me: damo, Foxcastle, and Darg, are scum. The reavers each committed a press violation to communicate to each other who they were so once tem died they don't hit the other ones. Tem is purposely trying to be lynched (because he didn't know the RB would be NK'd. That was the maf team 1).

Anyone who is advocating that you waste a lynch on the BH is crazy. It makes the game unecessarily harder for town. Maybe once I have two bounties collected I'll entertain the thought of lynching me, but until then don't listen to these people. I have *every incentive* to not lie here folks. If my gut is right, we can win together. And worst case if you truly don't trust me, put the ball in scum's court. They lose when I win too. They're currently undiscovered, so have no incentive to throw the game to me.

Every bit of logic there is says it's better to hold off on me

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4159 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:54 pm

If I'm being cynical, that makes it look to me like Goldfinger knows his next two bounties are likely to be either NK's or lynches. Either way, I think it's insane to think that we're going to thread the needle to satisfy the dual-win condition—either with Goldie's cooperation and honest intentions, but especially not if he sees a chance to screw us. We have no way of knowing whether the last two bounties are even scum or not.

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Re: MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

#4160 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:58 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:54 pm
If I'm being cynical, that makes it look to me like Goldfinger knows his next two bounties are likely to be either NK's or lynches. Either way, I think it's insane to think that we're going to thread the needle to satisfy the dual-win condition—either with Goldie's cooperation and honest intentions, but especially not if he sees a chance to screw us. We have no way of knowing whether the last two bounties are even scum or not.
But he swore on his honor as a Diplomacy player...hahahahahaha

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