M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[sweetandcool]

Incorrect. When I did a thing with my profile picture that first time, there was no rule.

I also do not care very much. There is already a mechanism for dealing with this if it really bothers you. If you think that my profile picture is Mafia-indicative, you may vote me.

You need to stop lying about this and playing the victim, Jamie. The rule was created, to address your actions, and clearly communicated, and then you broke it. Instead of blaming everyone else for continuing to question you, maybe consider why we're in the situation in the first place and quit toeing the line for a little while.

To everyone else who's concerned, I agree that Jamie probably is actually following the rule here and just trying to have a little fun, despite my own frustrations. I'd advise not thinking anything of it with the understanding that if he ruins another game he likely won't be playing again.

This gives only-child vibes

- From a youngest sibling

[Dousing]

Oh I forgot I wanted to look into Food and Yoyo!

brb

[Ezio]

Regardless, IF mafia used battlemaster on D2 it was very clearly a mistake for them

Huh? Battlemaster got a town PR killed. If mafia used it, did they make a mistake?

Did D&W have a second ability?

tbh even if he did I'd kill 1 mafia for 1 town any day???

especially when you're talking 1 town that was being generally scumread and one scum that was being generally townread

obv it sucks we lost a town but I wouldn't change a thing ab the results of N2 tbh

Ok so the Eldritch knight is who D&W was. He's the one who made it Balki vs him. We voted out Balki.
The battlemaster says the second place wagon dies too. In this case, the second place wagon was a town PR. The battlemaster power therefore got a town PR killed, and we have no idea who used it. (It might even have been town).
If mafia used it, it clearly was an effective use for them, given how the day played out.
1 hidden power use=dead town PR (who would have been completely cleared after the balki flip).

Yes, I am content with how the phase went as a whole, considering going we did trade 1 mafia for 1 scumread player at the start of the phase. It wouldn't have even been a trade if not for the battlemaster power .

[Dousing]

You need to stop lying about this and playing the victim, Jamie. The rule was created, to address your actions, and clearly communicated, and then you broke it. Instead of blaming everyone else for continuing to question you, maybe consider why we're in the situation in the first place and quit toeing the line for a little while.

To everyone else who's concerned, I agree that Jamie probably is actually following the rule here and just trying to have a little fun, despite my own frustrations. I'd advise not thinking anything of it with the understanding that if he ruins another game he likely won't be playing again.

This gives only-child vibes

- From a youngest sibling

I stand by what I said

I'm not wrong

[Dousing]

Huh? Battlemaster got a town PR killed. If mafia used it, did they make a mistake?

Did D&W have a second ability?

tbh even if he did I'd kill 1 mafia for 1 town any day???

especially when you're talking 1 town that was being generally scumread and one scum that was being generally townread

obv it sucks we lost a town but I wouldn't change a thing ab the results of N2 tbh

Ok so the Eldritch knight is who D&W was. He's the one who made it Balki vs him. We voted out Balki.
The battlemaster says the second place wagon dies too. In this case, the second place wagon was a town PR. The battlemaster power therefore got a town PR killed, and we have no idea who used it. (It might even have been town).
If mafia used it, it clearly was an effective use for them, given how the day played out.
1 hidden power use=dead town PR (who would have been completely cleared after the balki flip).

Yes, I am content with how the phase went as a whole, considering going we did trade 1 mafia for 1 scumread player at the start of the phase. It wouldn't have even been a trade if not for the battlemaster power .

ahhh

eh, DW was sus anyway

[Bonatogether]

1. Yoyo - Town
2. Balki - Mafia
3. JustAGuyNamedWill - Town
4. Jamiet99uk - Town
5. Bonatogether - Town
6. damo666 - Town
7. Hamilton Brian - Town
8. Dousing - Town
9. foodcoats - Mafia
10. BunnyGo - Town
11. ghug - Tadpoled?
12. Ezio - Town
13. FlaviusAetius - Null
14. DiplomacyandWarfare -Town
15. Kakarroto -Town (I miss you, sweet prince)
16. Worcej -Town
17. lfischl - Town
18. Vecna - Town
19. foxcastle - Null
20. TheMadMonarch - Who?
21. DemonRHK - Anarchist
22. Col7by - Town
23. Squiggs44 - Town
24. sweetandcool - Mafia
25. fluminator - Anarchist
26. aarodactyl - Mafia

naked lists are...USELESS!!

something something glass houses

[Dousing]

Did D&W have a second ability?

tbh even if he did I'd kill 1 mafia for 1 town any day???

especially when you're talking 1 town that was being generally scumread and one scum that was being generally townread

obv it sucks we lost a town but I wouldn't change a thing ab the results of N2 tbh

Ok so the Eldritch knight is who D&W was. He's the one who made it Balki vs him. We voted out Balki.
The battlemaster says the second place wagon dies too. In this case, the second place wagon was a town PR. The battlemaster power therefore got a town PR killed, and we have no idea who used it. (It might even have been town).
If mafia used it, it clearly was an effective use for them, given how the day played out.
1 hidden power use=dead town PR (who would have been completely cleared after the balki flip).

Yes, I am content with how the phase went as a whole, considering going we did trade 1 mafia for 1 scumread player at the start of the phase. It wouldn't have even been a trade if not for the battlemaster power .

ahhh

eh, DW was sus anyway

Nah but I get your point. For some reason I didn't think ab it like that

[Squigs44]

Flav is playing with a completely different framework than the rest of us but not necessarily a scumslip TMI kind of framework, just a series of weird assumptions, like MadMonarch is going to sub, the mafia team has a designated lurker, etc.

It makes it really hard to follow Flavs logic because he has so many assumptions that the rest of us aren't making.

why are you preemptively white knighting flav?

I townread him and see people scumreading him due to misunderstanding his logic. I think people will have more accurate reads of Flav if they understand Flavs thought processes better.
It's no secret I disagree with some of the ways webdip players operate. I've complained about townslips/scumslips, hyperfocusing on mechanics before we have relevant info, etc. I think webdip as a whole attributes differences in thought processes to scuminess too much (myself included tbh). This is an attempt to correct that in part

But if you disagree and think Flavs poorly made assumptions make him more likely scum, I look forward to hearing all about that

[Bonatogether]

I was not tadpoled last night, nor roleblocked

For the record I think there are some night action results where keeping silent could be beneficial to town as to not give scum information they don't yet have. They should have tadpole and roleblock information so I see no harm in a tadpole mass claim though. For all other night action results we should leave it up to the town members to decide if they think it is more beneficial to claim now or later.

tadpole mass claim is stupid because everyone is going to say they didn't get it. perhaps someone would say they rejected it, but then what? that is not confirmable or useable information. cops and docs can produce results that are observable. tadpole can't. would be a waste of time

[sweetandcool]

This gives only-child vibes

- From a youngest sibling

I stand by what I said

I'm not wrong

It's not your conversation.

[Bonatogether]

I will ##vote foodcoats here. I would love for the wagons today to be between foodcoats, bona, and yoyo.

What is your scum case on me, bona, and yoyo?

what is your contribution?

[Dousing]

Flav is playing with a completely different framework than the rest of us but not necessarily a scumslip TMI kind of framework, just a series of weird assumptions, like MadMonarch is going to sub, the mafia team has a designated lurker, etc.

It makes it really hard to follow Flavs logic because he has so many assumptions that the rest of us aren't making.

why are you preemptively white knighting flav?

I townread him and see people scumreading him due to misunderstanding his logic. I think people will have more accurate reads of Flav if they understand Flavs thought processes better.
It's no secret I disagree with some of the ways webdip players operate. I've complained about townslips/scumslips, hyperfocusing on mechanics before we have relevant info, etc. I think webdip as a whole attributes differences in thought processes to scuminess too much (myself included tbh). This is an attempt to correct that in part

But if you disagree and think Flavs poorly made assumptions make him more likely scum, I look forward to hearing all about that

I like playing with this Squiggles guy

[Dousing]

I stand by what I said

I'm not wrong

It's not your conversation.

Fair,

I'll stay out of it

[Squigs44]

While I'm definitely not 100% certain on Bunny, the intense backlash and visceral reaction people have on me voting him and the attempt to undermine me right after, is not convincing me to change my mind.

I mean I also disagree with a good portion of your analysis so I don't think the criticisms are necessarily scum saving bunny as you may be implying. But I do like a Bunny wagon for other reasons, some of which you have also covered

[Dousing]

I was not tadpoled last night, nor roleblocked

For the record I think there are some night action results where keeping silent could be beneficial to town as to not give scum information they don't yet have. They should have tadpole and roleblock information so I see no harm in a tadpole mass claim though. For all other night action results we should leave it up to the town members to decide if they think it is more beneficial to claim now or later.

tadpole mass claim is stupid because everyone is going to say they didn't get it. perhaps someone would say they rejected it, but then what? that is not confirmable or useable information. cops and docs can produce results that are observable. tadpole can't. would be a waste of time

Can't hurt either tbh

[Dousing]

##VOTE ghug

I've just got a gut feeling about him.

I don't have a ton else, due to not having read half the thread

##VOTE MadMonarch

Your rapid succession of posts seem prepared. How are you replying to posts that are hours apart in a few minutes, jumping back and forth in time, etc.

Yoyo %%VOTE Demon out of retaliation and how they're %%VOTE Monarch bc... they're participating?

Neither of these look like actual votes imo. This is barely better than a nokill vote bc it's not giving us anything.

I think y'all miht be right about Yoyo being a mafia skater

##VOTE Yoyoyozo

[Bonatogether]

Bona’s day yesterday actually is a little weird.

He made several comments clearly indicating he scumread Dip (sarcastically). He made a single post saying he would kill Balki. Towards end of day he actually mostly mentions killing Balki, votes Balki, then jumps to Dip and ties the wagons, and moves back to Balki once it has a firm majority. He also throws in tying and suggests killing both of them.

A particularly weird very EOD statement:

this eod sucks so hard

But… he clearly scumread Dip, and said he’d be okay killing Balki! It seems like an ideal EOD based on what he had stated during the day.

Bona can you comment on why you did not like that EOD even though earlier in the day you were basically scumming both of them?

because i hate the idea of a dueler role. one of my main information-gathering methods is vca and it removed that.

the pr claim i read as towny, so i felt there was nothing to do but kill balki. also balki claimed vt, and i then read his last reads as towny, so i thought the PR had blown a day by making it TvT, but both of them irritated me

[Bonatogether]

Sup,

FWIW I wasn't tadpoled/in any way... ["Hey Siri, what are some synonyms for messed with?"] /in any way interfered. manhandled. mucked (about or around) butted in or meddled.


Tbh, idk how useful this mass claim is? Anyone who sucks the tadpole won't claim it and anyone who doesn't suck the tadpole would probably say smt imho.

Bunny suggested this right? Could this be busywork from Bunny to gain a false sense of towniness?

true!

[Bonatogether]

I came to similar conclusions, although I'm more lukewarm on Fox and worcej. Bona looks real bad I think, and I feel the same way about them as I did about Balki

you've been shading me for forever and idk why

I feel like this thread has a penchant for playing dumb?

Nah Bona it's just that we can't get a good read on you

real ones know i am town

[Bonatogether]

I wish I had a baseline for how y'all play so that I can engage in meta-analyisis

It looks like so much fun!

it's all hokum and larp anyways

I wish I had a baseline for how y'all play so that I can engage in meta-analyisis

It looks like so much fun!

it's all hokum and larp anyways