MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

For now - ##Vote Foxcastle

No point guessing from VTs now before my read. A mislynch is almost certain town loss.

If you're still town and not a Reaver.

Even if was reavered (I wasn't) a mislynch would be a town loss.

I don't think town have any choice but to trust me.

[Chaqa]

No point guessing from VTs now before my read. A mislynch is almost certain town loss.

If you're still town and not a Reaver.

Even if was reavered (I wasn't) a mislynch would be a town loss.

I don't think town have any choice but to trust me.

I need to spend some real time thinking about it. I think we absolutely cannot rush this phase. This one we need time to think.

[damo666]

God dammit damo. Why Did you do this?

[damo666]

I don't get this. Care to explain?

[BunnyGo]

God dammit damo. Why Did you do this?

hehehe it gets me every time

[damo666]

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[damo666]

Bunny are you keeping tabs on who has and hasn't done the required Tem reposts

[Chaqa]

You missed one, damo. And you also need to quote Jamie's post properly.

[damo666]

OK the drugs got me to sleep a bit, so here are some possible hypotheses:

1) There is a posting requirement
2) There is a posting prohibition
3) The stuff needs to be easy to check (this need not be true if our GM is killing herself checking)
4) The bot's daylog could make checking easier...could be regards to posts, words, characters, rank in the postings, words per post...any or all of those could easily be involved
5) Here's one that's easy to check but impossible to decrypt: have to PM the GM every post you make
6) There are more than one condition, so multiple things interact to make the violation. This would make things very hard to decrypt. It's why I've been pushing for causing retriggers as opposed to a full code break.

So, 1 is hard to test for. 2 is what most of our tests have been. I think the bot is huge, especially the ability to search by phase and name and word all at once. 4 and 1 play well together, 2 plays well with the search function on the website.

Thoughts?

1. Possible
2. Possible
3. Presumably
4. Unlikely since violations were not all following EOD or EON. To hard to track during a phase.
5. No. Due to reference to subtelty.
6. Possible

What about something like not being allowed to make a false statement about the game?

[damo666]

You missed one, damo. And you also need to quote Jamie's post properly.

please tell and i will comply

[damo666]

Going back to bed. Couldn't sleep thinking about this damn game and got up at 5.00am to post my vote on Goldie.

[Chaqa]

You missed one, damo. And you also need to quote Jamie's post properly.

please tell and i will comply

I am NOT rP, as a matter of fact just a VT. I fear damo has been revered.

[Chaqa]

:tumbleweed:

I don't get this. Care to explain?

Do you know what tumbleweed is?

[goldfinger0303]

For those worried about me telling scum my bounties, I swear on my honor as a diplomacy player that I will not post who they are. And I'm *fairly* certain that one of them is scum, so we should be Gucci if we can just arrange it so that they're the last one lynched. Tem is not a bounty. Neither is our assassin, because I don't know which in that group our assassin is.

[goldfinger0303]

All I'm saying is listen to Chaqa. The math is not in town's favor so long as the assassin lives. Jamiet is useless against them.

[Chaqa]

I'm not sure yet whether lynching goldie is optimal or not, but I am 100% convinced he is the BH at this point. My analysis of the Kalel roleblock/Damo situation should cover that.

This is our list of remaining players. Since we did not have a second night-kill until tonight, I think we can assume that the Reavers only just reached their third person. Not sure why this is, but there's a few different explanations that aren't really worth digging into.

PR Group:
BunnyGo - Pilot (Semi-Confirmable)
damo666 - Reader (Semi-Confirmable)
dargorygel - Watcher (Semi-Confirmable)
Jamiet99uk - Doctor (Semi-Confirmable)
peterlund - Mudtown (Semi-Confirmable)
teacon7 - Twin
xorxes - Captain (Confirmable)

VT/Investigator Group:
Chaqa
e.m.c^42
Foxcastle

Non-Town Group:
goldfinger0303 - Bounty Hunter
Temasek22 - Reaver Prime

In my opinion, Tem would recruit in the group of PRs who were:
1. Unable to later be asked to re-confirm themselves
2. A low risk of being night-killed by the Alliance

The Alliance killed either rivera or teacon Night 1 (depending on who they were actually targeting).

I forget who got targeted/saved Night 2.

They killed Bozo Night 3 to help mask worcej's cover.

They killed ND Night 4 because they didn't want the Reavers getting Roleblocked, presumably. This means that the Assassin was around at EoN4, IMO. Otherwise - wouldn't they have targeted damo, who could catch them with a scan?

Foxcastle wasn't (and hasn't, as far as I can tell) been around since Day 4... but:

EMC was online AT THE TIME OF THE TEMASEK REVEAL.

So, actually, upon further analysis - I'm about 90% on EMC being the Assassin. I do realize this same analysis implicates me, so damo should scan one of us. It's a pretty solid 50/50.

[Chaqa]

Sorry, this was supposed to be two posts that I kinda mashed together:
Part 1 on the Reavers &
Part 2 on EMC-Assassin

To finish part 1:
I believe that we can discount xorxes as a Reaver, for one reasons: he can (and has) re-confirm himself over and over. This leaves the other six PRs as likely Reavers. 2/6, or 1/3 of them, in fact.

We know that on Night 2, Jamie and Dargo were still not Reavers. As was xorx.

I also, reflecting, think it's quite unlikely damo would be a Reaver and reveal Temasek like that, to the point that Tem would have the foresight to out himself as a deflection play. Just doesn't seem like something Tem would do, to me.

This leaves a smaller pool of Reaver targets:
Bunny, Dargo, Jamiet, peter, teacon

Dargo and Jamiet have some reasonable ways to prove themselves as town - Jamie saying he tried to save ND isn't really help info, but Dargo can watch the same target Jamie saves and confirm him - so a slight confirm.

peter is an interesting one because if we lynch him and he is a Reaver, woo! If he is still his good self, he can shoot someone for us. Due to this - he's an unlikely Reaver target, but possible.

Teacon is a safe choice to be a Reaver as well.

Bunny is the most interesting one. We have no idea if he stiil has his powers, he's been all over the place, and his power while being confirmable, has such downsides as to not know for sure. I feel like Bunny is a likely Reaver.

My guesses on Reavers:
teacon recruited N1/2
Bunny recruited N2/3

I think Tem tried to target Bunny when he was commuting earlier in the game, which accounts for the missing day, or he tried to recruit rivera Night 1 only for him to die.

[peterlund]

teacon and peterlund are my bets for Reavers.

@peter, how about we lynch you and you kill Temasek?

I am not reavered, but I am totally in on the idea to get lynched and kill Tem as a revenge shot.

[peterlund]

teacon and peterlund are my bets for Reavers.

@peter, how about we lynch you and you kill Temasek?

I am not reavered, but I am totally in on the idea to get lynched and kill Tem as a revenge shot.

##vote peter

[Chaqa]

I don't think lynching peter is a good play. If we lynch him and he shoots Temasek, then we've lost a townie to do nothing that eliminates a Reaver kill. In fact, doing this just speeds up town's loss.