Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[kingofthepirates]

##VOTE DrF

Last time all three dead people voted together was D2, for the doc. Our N2 dead friend vecna also voted fid. I think this is pretty easy. More curious for me is why the kill took place now. In my eyes, this shows that the three dead people were onto something. I’ll check back…

Though experience has led me to respect dead town reads more over time, it's still not foolproof by any means. Better to consider why they were scum reading someone and weighing how valid their read was

(note: I have not done this)

Be that as it may, we’re 7-3-3 right now. We as town absolutely need to vote out some kind of mafia this turn, since in my eyes we may have already lost too many people. At the moment, the doc fid is the person I believe to be mafia the most, since the doc has the highest direct motive for kills. I haven’t caught up yet, but could you explain the Balki wagon?

[brainbomb]

I think we're getting pretty close to a judge victory, so I'd encourage the MMA to claim so that we can put a couple votes on them and take two shots at judges.

[kingofthepirates]

Also what’s up with the miscounts? It’s 7-6, not 6-6. Unless I’m missing smth?

[DrFidelis]

I don't see that. I see a new player in way over his head with respect to quantity of content.

There's the words for it! In over my head! I'm gonna be fr, this probably was not the best place to start with webDip forum mafia, two different scum teams and like 15 different power roles.

I feel you, and I haven't been too much up your case about anything given such considerations. Nonetheless it just makes too much sense for you to be scum, I think

Feel free to shout out some opinions/questions and change people's minds. Especially given there will likely at least be a strong wagon on you today, now literally is the time

On the topic of shouting out opinions/questions, king reported rdr scanning false D2 and ND scanning false D3, not sure what's up with that, maybe vanilla cop reporting not vanilla? ND scanning not vanilla would be correct, so then what PR would rdr be if king is vanilla cop?

[DrFidelis]

Also what’s up with the miscounts? It’s 7-6, not 6-6. Unless I’m missing smth?

Dip&War is dead.

[DrFidelis]

WAIT NO IM DUMB NEVERMIND

[kingofthepirates]

Oh shii my bad, I forgot dip n’ war still hasn’t been killed in the bot... That survivalist scallywag…

[snowy801]

##VOTE DrF

Last time all three dead people voted together was D2, for the doc. Our N2 dead friend vecna also voted fid. I think this is pretty easy. More curious for me is why the kill took place now. In my eyes, this shows that the three dead people were onto something. I’ll check back…

Though experience has led me to respect dead town reads more over time, it's still not foolproof by any means. Better to consider why they were scum reading someone and weighing how valid their read was

(note: I have not done this)

Be that as it may, we’re 7-3-3 right now. We as town absolutely need to vote out some kind of mafia this turn, since in my eyes we may have already lost too many people. At the moment, the doc fid is the person I believe to be mafia the most, since the doc has the highest direct motive for kills. I haven’t caught up yet, but could you explain the Balki wagon?

Same reason as the last two days, with some additions of "cops should claim" recently if I had to add anything I guess

[snowy801]

Oh shii my bad, I forgot dip n’ war still hasn’t been killed in the bot... That survivalist scallywag…

He is dead as far as the game is concerned

[DrFidelis]

Also what’s up with the miscounts? It’s 7-6, not 6-6. Unless I’m missing smth?

Dip&War is dead.

hang on, okay so we have 13 people reported alive, 12 actual alive people since Dip&War is dead, the original count was 12 town 4 angels 3 judges, 6 town and 1 angel have died, so it would be 6 town 3 angels 3 judges, so 6 town 6 scum, 6-6.

[kingofthepirates]

Also what’s up with the miscounts? It’s 7-6, not 6-6. Unless I’m missing smth?

Dip&War is dead.

hang on, okay so we have 13 people reported alive, 12 actual alive people since Dip&War is dead, the original count was 12 town 4 angels 3 judges, 6 town and 1 angel have died, so it would be 6 town 3 angels 3 judges, so 6 town 6 scum, 6-6.

Yes, this count is accurate. I forgot dip and war was still alive by bot counting.

[snowy801]

There's the words for it! In over my head! I'm gonna be fr, this probably was not the best place to start with webDip forum mafia, two different scum teams and like 15 different power roles.

I feel you, and I haven't been too much up your case about anything given such considerations. Nonetheless it just makes too much sense for you to be scum, I think

Feel free to shout out some opinions/questions and change people's minds. Especially given there will likely at least be a strong wagon on you today, now literally is the time

On the topic of shouting out opinions/questions, king reported rdr scanning false D2 and ND scanning false D3, not sure what's up with that, maybe vanilla cop reporting not vanilla? ND scanning not vanilla would be correct, so then what PR would rdr be if king is vanilla cop?

From this do you feel more likely that King is a vanilla cop and rdr is some kind of PR, or that King just lied to us and isn't any cop at all?

[kingofthepirates]

Same reason as the last two days, with some additions of "cops should claim" recently if I had to add anything I guess

That’s fair. I’m sticking with my fid vote for now, and suggest that fid and Balki should be the next 2 day kills, in some order.

[ghug]

##VOTE DrF

Last time all three dead people voted together was D2, for the doc. Our N2 dead friend vecna also voted fid. I think this is pretty easy. More curious for me is why the kill took place now. In my eyes, this shows that the three dead people were onto something. I’ll check back…

Though experience has led me to respect dead town reads more over time, it's still not foolproof by any means. Better to consider why they were scum reading someone and weighing how valid their read was

(note: I have not done this)

Vecna didn't actually like the DrF wagon but picked it over other wagons he didn't like.
ND is ND.
The other two did scumread him, but it seems exceedingly unlikely they were killed for that specifically.

[DrFidelis]

I feel you, and I haven't been too much up your case about anything given such considerations. Nonetheless it just makes too much sense for you to be scum, I think

Feel free to shout out some opinions/questions and change people's minds. Especially given there will likely at least be a strong wagon on you today, now literally is the time

On the topic of shouting out opinions/questions, king reported rdr scanning false D2 and ND scanning false D3, not sure what's up with that, maybe vanilla cop reporting not vanilla? ND scanning not vanilla would be correct, so then what PR would rdr be if king is vanilla cop?

From this do you feel more likely that King is a vanilla cop and rdr is some kind of PR, or that King just lied to us and isn't any cop at all?

D3 King said "If you guys believe both ND and I, it won't be hard to narrow down my own role." I feel that the former is more likely, though I won't set aside the possibility of King latching onto a cop reveal to garner favor here.

[ghug]

I think we're getting pretty close to a judge victory, so I'd encourage the MMA to claim so that we can put a couple votes on them and take two shots at judges.

I'm not being totally silly. If they don't want to give MMA up, fine, but we should be working together, and if it's somebody widely suspected, it's something they should seriously consider.

[ghug]

?? how are you even coming to the idea that you get to be the target of a nk, with two (!!!) possible outed cops and mafia not having much nk power, especially since there are only two people who could be mean machine? And one of them is a cop claimant?

Brain, I don't think you answered before: why is Fidelis specifically the arsonist?

Brain, repeating

Brain, I know you're reading these. Answer the question.

[snowy801]

On the topic of shouting out opinions/questions, king reported rdr scanning false D2 and ND scanning false D3, not sure what's up with that, maybe vanilla cop reporting not vanilla? ND scanning not vanilla would be correct, so then what PR would rdr be if king is vanilla cop?

From this do you feel more likely that King is a vanilla cop and rdr is some kind of PR, or that King just lied to us and isn't any cop at all?

D3 King said "If you guys believe both ND and I, it won't be hard to narrow down my own role." I feel that the former is more likely, though I won't set aside the possibility of King latching onto a cop reveal to garner favor here.

Ok

Now then if king is telling the truth he is likely town, and based on Kaka's reads we know rdr is almost certainly town as well. Given this, what value is there in speculating on king and rdr's roles?

[brainbomb]

Brain, I don't think you answered before: why is Fidelis specifically the arsonist?

Brain, repeating

Brain, I know you're reading these. Answer the question.

It was already answered and posts by kak, rhk, rdr and nd fueled the idea long ago

[brainbomb]

The fact no one spoke to the contrary is why I think it is a valid thought