M1027: Community - Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

Is Hamilton Brian buddying me?

That is the question with which I am faced.

[heartthrob24909]

Huh, I was just thinking maybe Jamiet really is town.

Now Ham seems like they are pushing my wagon, and it feels suspicious.

##VOTE Ham (I'll feel bad if they are town because I've been pushing the Ham wagon too much the last few games).

Is this meant to imply that you were thinking Jamie is town, but don't anymore? If so, what changed your mind?

[Jamiet99uk]

Well spotted Bozo.

@Hamilton Brian your vote was invalid

[Jamiet99uk]

Huh, I was just thinking maybe Jamiet really is town.

Now Ham seems like they are pushing my wagon, and it feels suspicious.

##VOTE Ham (I'll feel bad if they are town because I've been pushing the Ham wagon too much the last few games).

Is this meant to imply that you were thinking Jamie is town, but don't anymore? If so, what changed your mind?

I voted him again, in my evil way.

[Kakarroto]

Town: Jamie, Mad*, ghug, Chaqa, BK, Bozo, me

Vote pool because they might be scum and have guaranteed they won't be NKd and have played suboptimally if town: Sweet, Kak, heart, HamB, darg, rdr

Others (could be scum but rather vote from above pool): worcej, Just

##vote sweet

* who is this?

you should put yourself into the suboptimally pool too, at least in my opinion, you've done very little, might even be the bottom last, in terms of optimum play.

[Kakarroto]

[...]
I also think we should not be discussing this all day (thanks Kak), so I'm going to put my bozo hat on and suggest a survey.
[...]

blaming me when I suggested a free-form system while two other suggested a very rigid system before feels kinda wrong

but maybe I put some fire into the discussion, sorry about that

That was a legitimate thanks because you reminded us all that wasting the day on mechanics is bad.

ok, my bad, I totally misunderstood that as a jab towards me

[Hamilton Brian]

Huh, I was just thinking maybe Jamiet really is town.

Now Ham seems like they are pushing my wagon, and it feels suspicious.

##VOTE Ham (I'll feel bad if they are town because I've been pushing the Ham wagon too much the last few games).

It's this dance we do; I don't get it...and as much as I told myself, "Brian, just avoid it this game," here I am again.

And it seems like my vote was invalid, so perhaps I'll try another approach.

Of the top three wagons, I have better feelings about Kak and darg.

##VOTE damo666

[Kakarroto]

also, I guess I should vote, nearly forgot about that.

don't want to vote for rd, chaqa, bozo, ghug today. Also not jamie.

heartthrob feels fine in vibe. BK3K a bit behind. Would like to see more though. Sweet was strange, went a little better. A big maybe.

MM's vote for me felt not good, but not enough to vote her back, I think. Darg on the other hand, maybe.

I'd like to see more from worcej, but so far it's probably fine. Damo and Brian need to do more.

Yeah, I don't have any big suspect of mafia. Four of you do a great job blending in, I guess. I don't think it's a team of sweet, darg, damo and Brian. That's too easy.

Hmm ... I guess I pull an Ezio now and ##vote no-kill until damo and Brian posted something of value or until I make my mind up.

How was I fine by this post? I’ve done nothing to this point.

##vote kak

vote me if you think I'm mafia, I just felt that your vibe was good, and I don't want to push you on day one ever anymore since I don't want you to claim if you're PR, except when I'm really really sure you're mafia.

Having no joke phase make my usual early bad reads probably worse

[Kakarroto]

Is there benefit to continually voting no kill knowing we have a semi-guaranteed-ish scan mechanism?

well, there is a benefit for mafia, I think.

I just haven't had a good maf-read yet and wanted to see more before. I could've voted a low-poster, but I had a feeling that wouldn't have been a good vote either.

[Kakarroto]

regarding pair system I suggested, I think I would put them in one of three category (don't know if you agree, just my input):

people who get nk'ed early usually (when they are town) :

5) ghug
13) bozotheclown

mixed (sometimes early targets, sometimes not easy to read) :

2) Jamiet99uk
10) Chaqa
11) Dargorygel
14)rdrivera2005

reading them might be hard :

1) sweetandcool
3) TheMadMonarch
4) worcej
6) damo666
7) Kakarroto
8) heartthrob24909
9) Hamilton Brian
12) BK3K
15)JustAGuyNamedWill


well, this is more my opinion, I guess, and some don't fit too good into a category (like BK3K is just new to me and I don't know much about) (or worcej gets nk'ed often when he is PR) but I think I would pair people from group 1+2 with people from group 3. But yeah, that's just a suggestion and trying a little to visualize what I mean.

I think this makes sense in theory, but I don't think it matters too much who we select for the VTs, and we want it to be clear who the VTs should submit at the beginning of the night. Using the second vote count player works with any arbitrary way to break a tie.

well, maybe the investigator thinks it's a good idea and uses it, of course they could see people different than me so the groups might be different for them too. Ah well, I think having those thoughts out doesn't hurt, at least.

[heartthrob24909]

@Kak, I liked the analysis of bozo's plan.

I can't help think this whole push against jamie was totally a tempest in a teapot. I'd be convinced it was mafia-motivated had the votes remained. Seeing them move off could suggest a couple of things.

U agree... siggests what, though?

I think one thing I consider is that there was a mafia-motivated run at jamie; enough noise continued to get made about it by jamie that they have to move off to let it die down a bit?

I forgot the other thing I was considering. I think it had to do with the wider perception of the vote.

Apologies that I'm not following but I'm tripping over your logic a little - are you trying to imply that the run against Jamie was mafia motivated or not?

Reading your top post as: would seem mafia-motivated if votes stayed there

Reading bottom post as: seems mafia-motivated because it died down

Want to make sure I'm understanding you properly

[heartthrob24909]

Huh, I was just thinking maybe Jamiet really is town.

Now Ham seems like they are pushing my wagon, and it feels suspicious.

##VOTE Ham (I'll feel bad if they are town because I've been pushing the Ham wagon too much the last few games).

Is this meant to imply that you were thinking Jamie is town, but don't anymore? If so, what changed your mind?

I voted him again, in my evil way.

Only VT votes at night... only scum votes at day? Jamie scum.

[Hamilton Brian]

Is Hamilton Brian buddying me?

That is the question with which I am faced.

Oh, totally. /s

In all seriousness you come off as SO town to me that I am willing to put a little trust in your votes. Until that vote is me, which would suck.

[Jamiet99uk]

Huh, I was just thinking maybe Jamiet really is town.

Now Ham seems like they are pushing my wagon, and it feels suspicious.

##VOTE Ham (I'll feel bad if they are town because I've been pushing the Ham wagon too much the last few games).

It's this dance we do; I don't get it...and as much as I told myself, "Brian, just avoid it this game," here I am again.

And it seems like my vote was invalid, so perhaps I'll try another approach.

Of the top three wagons, I have better feelings about Kak and darg.

##VOTE damo666

Why move instead of correcting the invalid vote?

Looking sketchy to me.

[Jamiet99uk]

Is this meant to imply that you were thinking Jamie is town, but don't anymore? If so, what changed your mind?

I voted him again, in my evil way.

Only VT votes at night... only scum votes at day? Jamie scum.

Funny guy.

We all have to vote during the day. Especially town.

[sweetandcool]

Huh, I was just thinking maybe Jamiet really is town.

Now Ham seems like they are pushing my wagon, and it feels suspicious.

##VOTE Ham (I'll feel bad if they are town because I've been pushing the Ham wagon too much the last few games).

Is this meant to imply that you were thinking Jamie is town, but don't anymore? If so, what changed your mind?

I voted him again, in my evil way.

Lol no, that's not it.

I didn't express myself well. But suffice to say Jamiet has convinced me, for now, that he is town.

[Jamiet99uk]

Right, you know what....

##Vote Damo for only posting three times, yet somehow having reads on nearly everyone.

[heartthrob24909]

Is this meant to imply that you were thinking Jamie is town, but don't anymore? If so, what changed your mind?

I voted him again, in my evil way.

Lol no, that's not it.

I didn't express myself well. But suffice to say Jamiet has convinced me, for now, that he is town.

Thanks

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Reading from my last post. Gonna be a lil bit.

[sweetandcool]

Okay, feeling a lot better about Ham. I'd expect a different response if he was scum.

##VOTE Kak

I'm not really sure who to push here, but this keeps it competitive.