20 Questions Round 433

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#41 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:28 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:22 pm
Was this person elected to office in the country of his birth, and did this election take place before the outbreak of WW2 ?

No.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#42 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:28 pm

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Born in what is currently Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Indonesia, Iraq, or Japan?
Yes.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#43 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm

DreamTrawler wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:28 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:22 pm
Was this person elected to office in the country of his birth, and did this election take place before the outbreak of WW2 ?

No.
So either

i) Elected in a different country.
ii) Elected after the start of WWII

or potentially both.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#44 Post by Hominidae » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:13 pm

We have two questions to go, and we're not very close. There are an almost endless number of people this could be, although presumably only a few who are plausible 20 Questions targets.

Probably would be good to narrow down the birthplace and time period a bit. I have a hunch this is a pretty recent individual.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#45 Post by Aristocrat » Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:02 pm

Born in what is now India, Bangladesh, or Bhutan?

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#46 Post by Pinecone333 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:16 pm

Assuming it is someone from South Asia, who in the world is:

A: born in South Asia, but an officeholder somewhere else
B: NOT so important that he is head of state in that somewhere else
C: important enough to be well known enough to be a viable answer here?

I was thinking Jagmeet Singh, but turns out he was born in Canada.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#47 Post by Aristocrat » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:30 pm

Pinecone333 wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:16 pm
Assuming it is someone from South Asia, who in the world is:

A: born in South Asia, but an officeholder somewhere else
B: NOT so important that he is head of state in that somewhere else
C: important enough to be well known enough to be a viable answer here?

I was thinking Jagmeet Singh, but turns out he was born in Canada.
Depends on how QM interpreted things, but arguably someone born in, e.g., the Dutch East Indies in 1940 could be elected something in Indonesia and still satisfy the criteria (basically would apply to all but Bhutan or Japan).

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#48 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:31 pm

Pinecone333 wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:16 pm
Assuming it is someone from South Asia, who in the world is:

A: born in South Asia, but an officeholder somewhere else
B: NOT so important that he is head of state in that somewhere else
C: important enough to be well known enough to be a viable answer here?

I was thinking Jagmeet Singh, but turns out he was born in Canada.
A is not quite right. He was born in South Asia and could have held office in a different South Asian country.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#49 Post by Pinecone333 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:35 pm

Fair on both counts, but if we’re trying to find some semi-important figure from Indonesian or Bangladeshi history, I’m not going to be much help lol

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#50 Post by Hominidae » Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:17 pm

Wait, why are we jumping to "he must have held office in a different country"? He could have easily just been elected after WWII.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#51 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:38 pm

Hominidae wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:17 pm
Wait, why are we jumping to "he must have held office in a different country"? He could have easily just been elected after WWII.
Oh you're right. It was the way Pinecone wrote it...
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#52 Post by Pinecone333 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:35 am

Hominidae wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:17 pm
Wait, why are we jumping to "he must have held office in a different country"? He could have easily just been elected after WWII.
You’re right, my bad.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#53 Post by Pinecone333 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 am

We also don’t know for certain yet that he was South Asian. But we do know:

A: Elected to political office, either after WWII or in a different country than he was born in or both.
B: Not a head of state
C: Still reasonably well known.

It occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#54 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:42 am

Pinecone333 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 am
We also don’t know for certain yet that he was South Asian. But we do know:

A: Elected to political office, either after WWII or in a different country than he was born in or both.
B: Not a head of state
C: Still reasonably well known.

It occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.
The same is true, for example, in Japan. It could be a former Prime Minister of Japan.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#55 Post by Spartaculous » Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:43 am

Pinecone333 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 am
We also don’t know for certain yet that he was South Asian. But we do know:

A: Elected to political office, either after WWII or in a different country than he was born in or both.
B: Not a head of state
C: Still reasonably well known.

It occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.
The prime minister is generally the head of government of the country.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#56 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:57 am

Spartaculous wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:43 am
Pinecone333 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 am
We also don’t know for certain yet that he was South Asian. But we do know:

A: Elected to political office, either after WWII or in a different country than he was born in or both.
B: Not a head of state
C: Still reasonably well known.

It occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.
The prime minister is generally the head of government of the country.
Not in a Presidential system though.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#57 Post by DreamTrawler » Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:17 am

Aristocrat wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:02 pm
Born in what is now India, Bangladesh, or Bhutan?
Yes.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#58 Post by Hominidae » Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:19 am

Pinecone333 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 am
It occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.
I said "head of state or head of government" for this reason.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:57 am
Spartaculous wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:43 am
Pinecone333 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 am
We also don’t know for certain yet that he was South Asian. But we do know:

A: Elected to political office, either after WWII or in a different country than he was born in or both.
B: Not a head of state
C: Still reasonably well known.

It occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.
The prime minister is generally the head of government of the country.
Not in a Presidential system though.
Are there presidential systems that have a prime minister though? Obviously there are semi-presidential systems like France, but in those countries, the PM is considered the head of government. It could be, for example, a House Speaker of Indonesia.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#59 Post by Pinecone333 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:24 am

Okay, fair enough. So he IS from either India, Bangladesh, or Bhutan. Elected, but not the PM.

We need something to narrow this down.

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Re: 20 Questions Round 433

#60 Post by Pinecone333 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:30 am

Since he was elected, it must be post-decolonization. What moderately important officeholder from India or Bangladeshi would be well known enough outside of South Asia to be an answer here?

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