Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:22 pmWas this person elected to office in the country of his birth, and did this election take place before the outbreak of WW2 ?
No.
#41 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:28 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:22 pmWas this person elected to office in the country of his birth, and did this election take place before the outbreak of WW2 ?
#43 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm
So eitherDreamTrawler wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:28 pmJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:22 pmWas this person elected to office in the country of his birth, and did this election take place before the outbreak of WW2 ?
No.
#44 Post by Hominidae » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:13 pm
#45 Post by Aristocrat » Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:02 pm
#46 Post by Pinecone333 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:16 pm
#47 Post by Aristocrat » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:30 pm
Depends on how QM interpreted things, but arguably someone born in, e.g., the Dutch East Indies in 1940 could be elected something in Indonesia and still satisfy the criteria (basically would apply to all but Bhutan or Japan).Pinecone333 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:16 pmAssuming it is someone from South Asia, who in the world is:
A: born in South Asia, but an officeholder somewhere else
B: NOT so important that he is head of state in that somewhere else
C: important enough to be well known enough to be a viable answer here?
I was thinking Jagmeet Singh, but turns out he was born in Canada.
#48 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:31 pm
A is not quite right. He was born in South Asia and could have held office in a different South Asian country.Pinecone333 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:16 pmAssuming it is someone from South Asia, who in the world is:
A: born in South Asia, but an officeholder somewhere else
B: NOT so important that he is head of state in that somewhere else
C: important enough to be well known enough to be a viable answer here?
I was thinking Jagmeet Singh, but turns out he was born in Canada.
#49 Post by Pinecone333 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:35 pm
#50 Post by Hominidae » Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:17 pm
#51 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:38 pm
Oh you're right. It was the way Pinecone wrote it...
#52 Post by Pinecone333 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:35 am
You’re right, my bad.
#53 Post by Pinecone333 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 am
#54 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:42 am
The same is true, for example, in Japan. It could be a former Prime Minister of Japan.Pinecone333 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 amWe also don’t know for certain yet that he was South Asian. But we do know:
A: Elected to political office, either after WWII or in a different country than he was born in or both.
B: Not a head of state
C: Still reasonably well known.
It occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.
#55 Post by Spartaculous » Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:43 am
The prime minister is generally the head of government of the country.Pinecone333 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 amWe also don’t know for certain yet that he was South Asian. But we do know:
A: Elected to political office, either after WWII or in a different country than he was born in or both.
B: Not a head of state
C: Still reasonably well known.
It occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.
#56 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:57 am
Not in a Presidential system though.Spartaculous wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:43 amThe prime minister is generally the head of government of the country.Pinecone333 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 amWe also don’t know for certain yet that he was South Asian. But we do know:
A: Elected to political office, either after WWII or in a different country than he was born in or both.
B: Not a head of state
C: Still reasonably well known.
It occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.
#58 Post by Hominidae » Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:19 am
I said "head of state or head of government" for this reason.Pinecone333 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 amIt occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.
Are there presidential systems that have a prime minister though? Obviously there are semi-presidential systems like France, but in those countries, the PM is considered the head of government. It could be, for example, a House Speaker of Indonesia.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:57 amNot in a Presidential system though.Spartaculous wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:43 amThe prime minister is generally the head of government of the country.Pinecone333 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:40 amWe also don’t know for certain yet that he was South Asian. But we do know:
A: Elected to political office, either after WWII or in a different country than he was born in or both.
B: Not a head of state
C: Still reasonably well known.
It occurs to me there are plenty of countries in the British Commonwealth where the Prime Minister is not technically the head of state. So don’t rule out ex-British Empire nations’ prime ministers.
#59 Post by Pinecone333 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:24 am
#60 Post by Pinecone333 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:30 am
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