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Dang. I'm stumped - sorry for wasting a guess.

DreamTrawler wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 8:49 pm

Is there a wireless technology or Frank Zappa piece that shares a name with this person?

I was trying to catch Harald Bluetooth and Rollo of Normandy with these, for the record.

Born in what is now Norway, Sweden, or Denmark?

If no, non-free guess: Stephen.

If no to that, Spartaculous can come in a few hours and guess it correctly.

wintergreen wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 9:02 pm

Born in what is now Norway, Sweden, or Denmark?

No.

wintergreen wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 9:03 pm

If no, non-free guess: Stephen.

If no to that, Spartaculous can come in a few hours and guess it correctly.

No.

1, Real dead male human
2,3,7,10. Born after 799 CE and before 1000 CE
4. Famous for politics, military or religion
5,11. Christian or Jewish (not Muslim)
6,8,12,16. European, not born in Eastern Roman Empire, or in a location that is now a part of Portugal, Spain, Andorra, France, Monaco, Italy, San Marino, Vatican City, Malta, Norway, Sweden, or Denmark
9. Monarch
13. Magyar, Norseman, or Turkic tribe member
14. No wireless technology or Frank Zappa song that shares a name with this person

NOT:
Charlemagne (DreamTrawler)
Canute (wintergreen)
15. Oleg the Wise (DreamTrawler)
17. Stephen I of Hungary (wintergreen)

PASSED
real dead white male human born north of the equator before 1960?

DreamTrawler wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 9:45 pm

PASSED
real dead white male human born north of the equator before 1960?

I think this will be the key to figuring out the person. Why was this passed?

Died after 910 CE?

Aristocrat wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 10:29 pm

Died after 910 CE?

I suppose I should just attach the conditionals to this on the assumption that Bulgars are being counted as members of a Turkic tribe:

Free guess if no: Boris I of Bulgaria

Free guess if yes: Simeon I of Bulgaria

Spartaculous wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 10:05 pm

DreamTrawler wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 9:45 pm

PASSED
real dead white male human born north of the equator before 1960?

I think this will be the key to figuring out the person. Why was this passed?

Yeah, I agree. At first I thought it was just to object to anachronistic descriptors of race, but idk now. My initial feeling was a Moor/Arab from al-Andalus, but Muslim was a no. Now I think we've established that the person is most likely a Magyar or Turkic individual, but I don't know any specific Magyar, Khazar, Pecheneg, or other early Turkic leaders. Then there was also a mention earlier of individuals with mixed-race parentage.

Aristocrat wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 10:29 pm

Died after 910 CE?

No.

Aristocrat wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 10:35 pm

Free guess if no: Boris I of Bulgaria

Correct!

Wow, interesting pick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_I_of_Bulgaria, described by one historian as "one of the greatest persons in history"), and a lucky guess. New game will be up soon.

As DreamTrawler pointed out in the next thread, this was kind of a joke pick related to the name Boris, but early Bulgarian history is really interesting. (Shoutout to the Bulgarian History Podcast, which I will hopefully get caught up with at some point.) I didn't anticipate being asked whether he was white, and I almost answered "yes" to that question, but I think that since the Bulgars are a Turkic people, it is ambiguous. I've always found the use of "white" to be a bit weird when dealing with that long ago, but I wouldn't have passed if I didn't think there was some legitimate question.