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Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:00 am
by cdngooner
You misunderstand me. Based purely on your summary, the target person could have been born in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, or Georgia (which voted for Trump in 2016, and Biden in 2020). However, they can't actually have been born in any of those states, because of my "Biden in 2020" question. Therefore, your summary excludes some information that we have already deduced.
None of that changes my answer.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:05 am
by Hominidae
cdngooner wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:00 am
You misunderstand me. Based purely on your summary, the target person could have been born in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, or Georgia (which voted for Trump in 2016, and Biden in 2020). However, they can't actually have been born in any of those states, because of my "Biden in 2020" question. Therefore, your summary excludes some information that we have already deduced.
None of that changes my answer.
Clarification: are you saying that this person might have been born in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, or Georgia? Because if so, you should have answered "yes" to my Biden question. If not, that should be reflected in the summary.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:07 am
by Spartaculous
cdngooner wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:59 am
James Naismith, the inventor of basketball, was born in Canada
Aah, but as a Canadian, I of course knew that! Basketball, hockey, lacrosse, kayaking, canoeing ... how many sports did YOUR country invent!
Mmmm, let's change the subject. When was the last time your country won the Stanley Cup?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:02 am
by Aristocrat
Is this person primarily famous for playing baseball?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:51 am
by JustAGuyNamedWill
Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:07 am
cdngooner wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:59 am
James Naismith, the inventor of basketball, was born in Canada
Aah, but as a Canadian, I of course knew that! Basketball, hockey, lacrosse, kayaking, canoeing ... how many sports did YOUR country invent!
Mmmm, let's change the subject. When was the last time your country won the Stanley Cup?
GO VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS WE WON THE CUP BABYYYYYYYY

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:52 am
by JustAGuyNamedWill
Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:07 am
cdngooner wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:59 am
James Naismith, the inventor of basketball, was born in Canada
Aah, but as a Canadian, I of course knew that! Basketball, hockey, lacrosse, kayaking, canoeing ... how many sports did YOUR country invent!
Mmmm, let's change the subject. When was the last time your country won the Stanley Cup?
We’re better at all of them tho. (Maybe not kayaking or canoeing)

Golden Knights win the Stanley Cup
Nuggets win the NBA finals

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:22 am
by Aristocrat
Hominidae wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:05 am
cdngooner wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:00 am
You misunderstand me. Based purely on your summary, the target person could have been born in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, or Georgia (which voted for Trump in 2016, and Biden in 2020). However, they can't actually have been born in any of those states, because of my "Biden in 2020" question. Therefore, your summary excludes some information that we have already deduced.
None of that changes my answer.
Clarification: are you saying that this person might have been born in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, or Georgia? Because if so, you should have answered "yes" to my Biden question. If not, that should be reflected in the summary.
It’s worth considering some kind of trickery here, although I cannot figure out what it would be. The Electoral College still votes in December (the certification takes place in January, but the actual voting by the electors happens before then). The primaries also occurred in 2020 so the year is irrelevant there, although the questions if answered literally would limit the possible states to Iowa, North Dakota, and Utah.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:14 am
by Hominidae
Aristocrat wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:22 am
Hominidae wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:05 am
cdngooner wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:00 am

None of that changes my answer.
Clarification: are you saying that this person might have been born in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, or Georgia? Because if so, you should have answered "yes" to my Biden question. If not, that should be reflected in the summary.
It’s worth considering some kind of trickery here, although I cannot figure out what it would be. The Electoral College still votes in December (the certification takes place in January, but the actual voting by the electors happens before then). The primaries also occurred in 2020 so the year is irrelevant there, although the questions if answered literally would limit the possible states to Iowa, North Dakota, and Utah.
I doubt it, given the way the QM's original summary was phrased.

Anyway. Is this a person who is heavily associated with baseball?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:15 am
by Hominidae
Hominidae wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:14 am
Aristocrat wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:22 am
Hominidae wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:05 am


Clarification: are you saying that this person might have been born in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, or Georgia? Because if so, you should have answered "yes" to my Biden question. If not, that should be reflected in the summary.
It’s worth considering some kind of trickery here, although I cannot figure out what it would be. The Electoral College still votes in December (the certification takes place in January, but the actual voting by the electors happens before then). The primaries also occurred in 2020 so the year is irrelevant there, although the questions if answered literally would limit the possible states to Iowa, North Dakota, and Utah.
I doubt it, given the way the QM's original summary was phrased.

Anyway. Is this a person who is heavily associated with baseball?
Scratch that. Aristocrat already asked it.

Was this person born in 1885 or later?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:27 am
by cdngooner
Clarification: are you saying that this person might have been born in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, or Georgia?
This isn't a clarification; its a question seeking additional information. So I won't answer it, assuming that you don't intend it to count toward the vote total.
Because if so, you should have answered "yes" to my Biden question.
I'm confident all questions were answered correctly.
If not, that should be reflected in the summary.
The summary is a service offered to players. Not all QM's provide one. If you want to create a different summary based on your interpretation of the answers, you are free to do so. It is the questions that are official, not the summaries.

If I might add, you are sending yourself deep down the wrong rabbit hole with questions about these elections. Our subject was born in a state that voted for Trump, and did not vote for Biden in 2020. Nothing could be clearer.
GO VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS WE WON THE CUP BABYYYYYYYY
Exactly how many Americans were on that team, versus how many Canadians? Congratulations; your owner is American.
Was this person born in 1885 or later?
No.

1,2,5. Real dead male human.
3,7,10. Born in the US; in a state that (a) voted for Trump, and (b) did not vote for Biden in 2020.
6,12.16. Born 1845-1884.
8. Died age 70 or older (1915-2024).
9,11,13,14. Primarily famous for sports; either baseball, or inventing, popularizing or developing a sport.
4. Not most famous for politics, military, film, TV.
15. "E" in full first name.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:33 am
by Hominidae
That wasn't a question seekig additional information. It was a clarification because it had seemed like you were retconning information you had already given. However, you did re-add the information obtained by my question in your summary, so thank you for that.

Also you missed Aristocrat's baseball question.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:39 am
by Pengwinja
Hominidae wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:33 am
That wasn't a question seekig additional information. It was a clarification because it had seemed like you were retconning information you had already given. However, you did re-add the information obtained by my question in your summary, so thank you for that.

Also you missed Aristocrat's baseball question.
5 questions only every hour, correct?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:48 am
by cdngooner
Is this person primarily famous for playing baseball?
Yes. Sorry for missing that in all the drivel about elections and a team of Canadians playing hockey in Las Vegas.

1,2,5. Real dead male human.
3,7,10. Born in the US; in a state that (a) voted for Trump, and (b) did not vote for Biden in 2020.
6,12.16. Born 1845-1884.
8. Died age 70 or older (1915-2024).
9,11,13,14,17. Primarily famous for baseball.
4. Not most famous for politics, military, film, TV.
15. "E" in full first name.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:11 pm
by Spartaculous
Is he most famous as a baseball pitcher?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:14 pm
by DiplomacyandWarfare
Free guess: Babe Ruth?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:21 pm
by Spartaculous
Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:11 pm
Is he most famous as a baseball pitcher?
If "Yes.", I guess Denton True Young.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:41 pm
by Wattsthematter
Born after 1870?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:41 pm
by cdngooner
I guess Denton True Young.
Correct from Spartaculous! Cy Young; pitcher for the Boston Red Sox; 100 years later still the record holder for wins; two no-hitters and a perfect game; the Cy Young Trophy is awarded every year to the best pitcher in each of the National and American Leagues.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 233

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:26 pm
by Spartaculous
cdngooner wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:41 pm
I guess Denton True Young.
Correct from Spartaculous! Cy Young; pitcher for the Boston Red Sox; 100 years later still the record holder for wins; two no-hitters and a perfect game; the Cy Young Trophy is awarded every year to the best pitcher in each of the National and American Leagues.
Great pick! I will get the next game going later today.