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Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 12:27 pm

SETUP NOTE:

In view of the representations made by Worcej and Vecna, I will be willing to run the game on a *Nightless* basis, with 48 hour day phases and *NO* night phase, with actions working as follows:

1. Mafia (of whom there are likely to be two members) will have an always-on daychat while they are both alive.

2. ALL actions, such as there are, will process at the end of the phase, but will be able to be ordered at any time during the day.


I will run the game like this IF both Worcej and Vecna confirm their sign up, and if nobody else objects to this approach.

Setup details to be confirmed by tomorrow.

I'm not much of a mafia theorist, but if the phases are 48/0, should not night actions be resolved at the halfway mark of the day (i.e. @ T-24)? Otherwise, neither PRs nor mafia can react to EOD information - claims, flips, etc.

foodcoats wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 1:17 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 12:27 pm

SETUP NOTE:

In view of the representations made by Worcej and Vecna, I will be willing to run the game on a *Nightless* basis, with 48 hour day phases and *NO* night phase, with actions working as follows:

1. Mafia (of whom there are likely to be two members) will have an always-on daychat while they are both alive.

2. ALL actions, such as there are, will process at the end of the phase, but will be able to be ordered at any time during the day.


I will run the game like this IF both Worcej and Vecna confirm their sign up, and if nobody else objects to this approach.

Setup details to be confirmed by tomorrow.

I'm not much of a mafia theorist, but if the phases are 48/0, should not night actions be resolved at the halfway mark of the day (i.e. @ T-24)? Otherwise, neither PRs nor mafia can react to EOD information - claims, flips, etc.

That's what happens when you have no night. There are no night actions, they become EoD actions.

Now, nightless setups are inherently town-sided, so you can expect Mafia to have some strong powers if I run it like this.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 1:31 pm

foodcoats wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 1:17 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 12:27 pm

SETUP NOTE:

In view of the representations made by Worcej and Vecna, I will be willing to run the game on a *Nightless* basis, with 48 hour day phases and *NO* night phase, with actions working as follows:

1. Mafia (of whom there are likely to be two members) will have an always-on daychat while they are both alive.

2. ALL actions, such as there are, will process at the end of the phase, but will be able to be ordered at any time during the day.


I will run the game like this IF both Worcej and Vecna confirm their sign up, and if nobody else objects to this approach.

Setup details to be confirmed by tomorrow.

I'm not much of a mafia theorist, but if the phases are 48/0, should not night actions be resolved at the halfway mark of the day (i.e. @ T-24)? Otherwise, neither PRs nor mafia can react to EOD information - claims, flips, etc.

That's what happens when you have no night. There are no night actions, they become EoD actions.

Now, nightless setups are inherently town-sided, so you can expect Mafia to have some strong powers if I run it like this.

Fair enough! I will take the mafia JOAT please.

Well it's interesting you mention a JOAT...

Mini Mafia M1011
DRAFT SETUP (based on 10 or 11 players)

Mafia:
1 x Mafia Tough Guy (immune to Vig gunshot)
1 x Mafia Jack Of All Trades (1 x Roleblock, 1 x Role Cop, 1 x Doublevoter)

Mafia have always-on daychat.

Town:
1 x One-Shot Vigilante (during the day may aim at another player, resolves during Instant Night)
1 x Wannabe Vigilante Miller (thinks they are the Vigilante, flips as Vigilante, scans as Vigilante, but actually has no bullet)
1 x Babysitter (protects a target, but if the Babysitter is killed, their target also dies)

This game has INSTANT NIGHT, meaning there is no separate night phase.
Resolution in this INSTANT NIGHT game will be as follows:

1. Lynch happens and the flip is declared. The lynched player's actions, if any, will not occur.
2. Roleblock
3. Scan
4. Babysitter arrives at target's house
5. Vigilante and Mafia kills.

NIGHT FEEDBACK is very limited:

- Neither the Babysitter nor the babysitter's target receive any feedback on whether or not they prevented an attack.

- The Vigilante only gets one chance to fire. If prevented, whether by roleblock or Tough Guy, or because they are actually the Wannabe Vigilante, they will (a) not be told which effect prevented their kill, and (b) not get another shot.

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At least three more, and no more than six more, are needed. I am assuming Vecna and Worcej will be joining but grateful if they could indicate if so.

If this goes well, we may use this no-night style for a mainline mafia game.

We have a few creative ideas to work around no night phase.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 3:51 pm

If this goes well, we may use this no-night style for a mainline mafia game.

We have a few creative ideas to work around no night phase.

There is an alternative style of running nightless games called "Deep South", where no actions happen for the first 12, or 24 hours, and then after that, killing roles are adjudicated instantly (triggering any protections in place in the process), whilst investigative roles resolve at EoD.

I don't propose doing that on this occasion.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 3:58 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 3:51 pm

If this goes well, we may use this no-night style for a mainline mafia game.

We have a few creative ideas to work around no night phase.

There is an alternative style of running nightless games called "Deep South", where no actions happen for the first 12, or 24 hours, and then after that, killing roles are adjudicated instantly (triggering any protections in place in the process), whilst investigative roles resolve at EoD.

I don't propose doing that on this occasion.

That's actually what I was thinking of doing, roughly

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This is probably the last game I’ll have time for until September-ish, so scum if you could not nk me early, that’d be great :)

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Nine players already? Wonderful. That's the minimum required, so the game will 100% definitely start on Monday.

If a few more want to sign up, that is fine, but no more than 12 please, as this is supposed to be a Mini.

If you want to join and the list's already at 12, feel free to start a Subs list.

Also EMC has been +1-ing posts in this thread so I believe that confirms his wish to participate:

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Subs:
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Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 6:27 pm

Also EMC has been +1-ing posts in this thread so I believe that confirms his wish to participate:

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4. Chaqa
5. EMC
6. Tom Bombadil
7. rdrivera2005
8. bozo
9. kgray
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Subs:
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Watch him troll and NOT +1 that post.

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Glad to see you back, summit!

Someone should ping Donny. I would like to see him get to play properly.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri May 15, 2020 7:39 pm

Glad to see you back, summit!

Someone should ping Donny. I would like to see him get to play properly.

I can't next week is when all my work is due
Far too busy

I am in then.

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