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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#41 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:32 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:29 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:28 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:20 pm
Thanks, I try. Want to know my secret?
Rather suspect it's similar to how I play scum, but do go on.
I actively don't remember who is scum. I get reminded every night. Sleep deprivation and cognitive dissonance are amazing tools.
Word of wisdom, don't do this as third party, especially if you're fake claiming another role.

You'll lose because you'll pretend and submit fake orders to yourself and forget to submit actual orders, lol

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#42 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:32 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:32 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:29 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:28 pm


Rather suspect it's similar to how I play scum, but do go on.
I actively don't remember who is scum. I get reminded every night. Sleep deprivation and cognitive dissonance are amazing tools.
Word of wisdom, don't do this as third party, especially if you're fake claiming another role.

You'll lose because you'll pretend and submit fake orders to yourself and forget to submit actual orders, lol
Hilarious

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#43 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:33 pm

So, @kgray, I'm curious how you want to approach this game?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#44 Post by bo_sox48 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:34 pm

Why don't you care how I want to approach this game?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#45 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:34 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:34 pm
Why don't you care how I want to approach this game?
I didn't know you were here. Care to share?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#46 Post by bo_sox48 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:38 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:34 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:34 pm
Why don't you care how I want to approach this game?
I didn't know you were here. Care to share?
I don't know, I didn't think that far ahead.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#47 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:40 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:38 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:34 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:34 pm
Why don't you care how I want to approach this game?
I didn't know you were here. Care to share?
I don't know, I didn't think that far ahead.
Honest? Maybe. Helpful? Maybe. Conversation starter? Not really.

Hmm...do you think if there were just 1 member of the scum team they'd have a harder or easier time?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#48 Post by kgray » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:42 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:33 pm
So, @kgray, I'm curious how you want to approach this game?
I plan to approach it pretty similarly to last game, but hopefully learning from some of my mistakes.

One thing I want to do more of is pushing my "gut" reads. I felt like you were scum for most of last game, but I couldn't really come up with tangible evidence for it even when you were misconstruing everything I was saying. You're not going to get away with that this game ;)

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#49 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm

kgray wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:42 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:33 pm
So, @kgray, I'm curious how you want to approach this game?
I plan to approach it pretty similarly to last game, but hopefully learning from some of my mistakes.

One thing I want to do more of is pushing my "gut" reads. I felt like you were scum for most of last game, but I couldn't really come up with tangible evidence for it even when you were misconstruing everything I was saying. You're not going to get away with that this game ;)
I'm still going to misconstrue everything you say.

In any case, I recommend not "pushing" the gut reads, but thinking hard about *why* they are gut reads.

In any case, that's my goal.

The Drunk Bunny (TM) persona is not a joke (I mean it is a joke, but I'm really drinking). I really do have better reads when I'm a few shots in. I've rarely been wrong then, and rarely been correct when I'm my normal "logical" Dumb Bunny. In the second case I'm focusing on the wrong things. The problem with Drunk Bunny (TM) is I have trouble explaining to myself and others what exactly I pick up on.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#50 Post by kgray » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm

kgray wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:42 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:33 pm
So, @kgray, I'm curious how you want to approach this game?
I plan to approach it pretty similarly to last game, but hopefully learning from some of my mistakes.

One thing I want to do more of is pushing my "gut" reads. I felt like you were scum for most of last game, but I couldn't really come up with tangible evidence for it even when you were misconstruing everything I was saying. You're not going to get away with that this game ;)
Actually overall I'll probably try to rely less on finding "tangible evidence." A lot of my scumreads last game (rdr, Fox, Tem and damo) turned out to be based on what I'd consider "tangible evidence" but they all turned out to be town.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#51 Post by bo_sox48 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:40 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:38 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:34 pm


I didn't know you were here. Care to share?
I don't know, I didn't think that far ahead.
Honest? Maybe. Helpful? Maybe. Conversation starter? Not really.

Hmm...do you think if there were just 1 member of the scum team they'd have a harder or easier time?
Depends on whether or not they get lynched before the game ends. If they don't, probably quite a bit easier.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#52 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:49 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:40 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:38 pm


I don't know, I didn't think that far ahead.
Honest? Maybe. Helpful? Maybe. Conversation starter? Not really.

Hmm...do you think if there were just 1 member of the scum team they'd have a harder or easier time?
Depends on whether or not they get lynched before the game ends. If they don't, probably quite a bit easier.
That's what I'm wondering. 1 scum alone doesn't have anyone else they're interacting with. The extra knowledge is easier to hide. There's no flips that reveal anything. So why are bigger scum teams usually considered more fair? What about scum hunting is hard?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#53 Post by kgray » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:49 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm

In any case, I recommend not "pushing" the gut reads, but thinking hard about *why* they are gut reads.
Yeah, that's kinda what I meant. "Pushing" to try to figure them out for myself.
The Drunk Bunny (TM) persona is not a joke (I mean it is a joke, but I'm really drinking). I really do have better reads when I'm a few shots in. I've rarely been wrong then, and rarely been correct when I'm my normal "logical" Dumb Bunny. In the second case I'm focusing on the wrong things. The problem with Drunk Bunny (TM) is I have trouble explaining to myself and others what exactly I pick up on.
I get that somewhat, but it just seems like such an easy way for scum to change their reads for no reason.... I will try to keep an open mind.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#54 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 pm

kgray wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm
kgray wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:42 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:33 pm
So, @kgray, I'm curious how you want to approach this game?
I plan to approach it pretty similarly to last game, but hopefully learning from some of my mistakes.

One thing I want to do more of is pushing my "gut" reads. I felt like you were scum for most of last game, but I couldn't really come up with tangible evidence for it even when you were misconstruing everything I was saying. You're not going to get away with that this game ;)
Actually overall I'll probably try to rely less on finding "tangible evidence." A lot of my scumreads last game (rdr, Fox, Tem and damo) turned out to be based on what I'd consider "tangible evidence" but they all turned out to be town.
I think that's a mistake. Look for the *correct* tangible evidence. Not necessarily "scum slips" or "inconsistency" but the evidence that suggests someone is misleading you with their writing.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#55 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:40 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:38 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:34 pm


I didn't know you were here. Care to share?
I don't know, I didn't think that far ahead.
Honest? Maybe. Helpful? Maybe. Conversation starter? Not really.

Hmm...do you think if there were just 1 member of the scum team they'd have a harder or easier time?
This is just a third party lol

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#56 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 pm
kgray wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm
kgray wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:42 pm


I plan to approach it pretty similarly to last game, but hopefully learning from some of my mistakes.

One thing I want to do more of is pushing my "gut" reads. I felt like you were scum for most of last game, but I couldn't really come up with tangible evidence for it even when you were misconstruing everything I was saying. You're not going to get away with that this game ;)
Actually overall I'll probably try to rely less on finding "tangible evidence." A lot of my scumreads last game (rdr, Fox, Tem and damo) turned out to be based on what I'd consider "tangible evidence" but they all turned out to be town.
I think that's a mistake. Look for the *correct* tangible evidence. Not necessarily "scum slips" or "inconsistency" but the evidence that suggests someone is misleading you with their writing.
All that said, I'm not sure I can do this myself; it's just my goal. It's what I'm here to learn.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#57 Post by bo_sox48 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:51 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:49 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:40 pm


Honest? Maybe. Helpful? Maybe. Conversation starter? Not really.

Hmm...do you think if there were just 1 member of the scum team they'd have a harder or easier time?
Depends on whether or not they get lynched before the game ends. If they don't, probably quite a bit easier.
That's what I'm wondering. 1 scum alone doesn't have anyone else they're interacting with. The extra knowledge is easier to hide. There's no flips that reveal anything. So why are bigger scum teams usually considered more fair? What about scum hunting is hard?
I'm surprised you considered my response to you substantial enough to continue asking such pointless questions.

Bigger scum teams (within the game's balance) make it much easier both to find scum and hide as scum. They're better for everyone.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#58 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:51 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:40 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:38 pm


I don't know, I didn't think that far ahead.
Honest? Maybe. Helpful? Maybe. Conversation starter? Not really.

Hmm...do you think if there were just 1 member of the scum team they'd have a harder or easier time?
This is just a third party lol
And? Why is 3P hard? (ignoring any extra mechanics that help to find them)

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#59 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:52 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:49 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm


Depends on whether or not they get lynched before the game ends. If they don't, probably quite a bit easier.
That's what I'm wondering. 1 scum alone doesn't have anyone else they're interacting with. The extra knowledge is easier to hide. There's no flips that reveal anything. So why are bigger scum teams usually considered more fair? What about scum hunting is hard?
I'm surprised you considered my response to you substantial enough to continue asking such pointless questions.

Bigger scum teams (within the game's balance) make it much easier both to find scum and hide as scum. They're better for everyone.
And do you find it easier to hide or hunt?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#60 Post by bo_sox48 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:52 pm

Hunt.

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