Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[Spartaculous]

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##ask GM in the case above, IF both yavu's and chaqa's potato exploded before they could throw it, and then there is a tie between bo and no-kill, would the day end theoretically in a tie? Is that a possibility? Or would something else have happened?

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Sorry, I got a bit lost here. Are you asking about a tie on a previous day? Or about how a tie would/could be handled today?

theoretically:

when the lead wagon at the end of the day explodes due to a potato, it should go to the number two wagon, right? But, if there is a tie (even a three person tie) (and even if one of those three persons explodes too so it is only a two person tie) then the dayvote ends in a no-kill due to the tie ... but we wouldn't know because the death isn't known in the flavour.

So in that case, we wouldn't have an idea if that lead wagon exploded or if it was the dayvote, right?

No, I don't think you have this right. From the clarifications at the very start of the game:

3. The daykill is determined using the usual voting methods. Players who died from exploding potatoes still have their vote count; the player with the couch potato does not have their vote count. If the top vote-getter dies by hot potato, that player still counts as the daykill. (If there is a two-way tie for top vote-getter and one of those players dies by hot potato, the surviving player does not become the daykill.)

A tied vote (after the couch potato is taken into account) would result in there not being a DK (independent of any exploding potatoes).

[DreamTrawler]

So Yavu and Chaqa could have both exploded, we have no way of knowing if that’s true. Tbh I hope that’s what happened because it means there are only 3 potatoes in the game. I’m throwing mine to Bo btw

[Kakarroto]

wait a moment, no, I'm stupid ... that can't be since the no-kill vote was the couch potato, which had a power of 0

so if both yavu and chaqa were potato explosions, and that no-kill reduced to zero due to couch potato, that would've meant the dayvote target would ultimatively been bo, who survived.

Final vote count

yavuzovic (5) DreamTrawler DiplomacyandWarfare Chaqa bo_sox48 Kakarroto
Chaqa (1) rdrivera2005
bo_sox48 (1) yavuzovic
No‑Kill (0) JustAGuyNamedWill

yeah I've looked at the previous, unmodified vote count, that had confused me.

[DreamTrawler]

If the lead target explodes, there is no daykill.

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Vote count 6.5

rdrivera2005 (2) Kakarroto DreamTrawler
bo_sox48 (1) JustAGuyNamedWill
DreamTrawler (1) bo_sox48
Kakarroto (1) DiplomacyandWarfare
No‑Kill (1) rdrivera2005

rdrivera2005 is feeling the heat.

One hour remains.

[DreamTrawler]

Kakarroto, will you be online intermittently in the next hour?

[Kakarroto]

and we know bo wasn't saved by the sweet potato since dip had it N4, threw to bo for D5, and bo threw it back to dip for N5

so dip and bo can't be mafia together ... or, well, maybe if the sweet potato was destroyed on N4 and dip and bo just acted for two phases of throwing it between them? Hmm ...

that night Bunny died, who had a hot potato. But he said he threw it to me, and I got one hot potato. What if Bunny exploded and bo and dip removed the sweet potato right then and there? But who would've send me their hot potato then?

Doesn't say in the list from Dream. That night only 3 hot potatoes are listed there.

Could it actually be that both dip and bo fooled us that hard? That can't be ... can it? That would be crazy

[Kakarroto]

Kakarroto, will you be online intermittently in the next hour?

I most likely will, bar any emergency. Might be a bit distracted with food but If there aren't twenty pages in two minutes that should be fine

[DreamTrawler]

It would be extremely risky of Mafia to not use the nightkill on towncleared Bunny especially if they knew he didn’t have the SP.

[DreamTrawler]

Kakarroto, will you be online intermittently in the next hour?

I most likely will, bar any emergency. Might be a bit distracted with food but If there aren't twenty pages in two minutes that should be fine

Ok, well if Will doesn’t show up to vote Rivera, we should prepare to both switch to Bo.

[Kakarroto]

It would be extremely risky of Mafia to not use the nightkill on towncleared Bunny especially if they knew he didn’t have the SP.

yeah, that's true. Also dip doesn't feel or act like mafia. It was just a thought that crossed my mind, when I saw that pattern

[Kakarroto]

Kakarroto, will you be online intermittently in the next hour?

I most likely will, bar any emergency. Might be a bit distracted with food but If there aren't twenty pages in two minutes that should be fine

Ok, well if Will doesn’t show up to vote Rivera, we should prepare to both switch to Bo.

yeah, I'll be ready. Lets hope we don't get the rotten potato holder

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Either Kaka needs to flip onto Bo or me and Will need to flip onto Rivera. Can’t risk a last minute tie.

I’m willing to flip onto rivera. I think its both bo and rivera

Ok let’s do it. Hopefully I’m not being played by a Bo-Will scumpair lol

##vote Rdrivera2005

Okay well if you’re debating between bo/me and bo/rdr then lets vote bo

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I think rdr has the rotten potato due to his ‘oops i misordered’

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Im confident on Dream and Dip being town

Kak is really good as mafia, and I do have some doubts. But I have to trust it

Rdr and Bo are both extremely sketch today

[Kakarroto]

I think rdr has the rotten potato due to his ‘oops i misordered’

so then, switch to bo?

It could be also a justification to send it to dip, but sending it to you is also very possible. The one thing we can be pretty sure is that he didn't send to Dream, I think. So practically a 50/50 between sending it to you or to dip

[DreamTrawler]

I want to hit whoever doesn’t have the RP. Delaying a town death as much as possible. Also, in the end, I’m pretty sure Rdr slipped up by calling Dip the SP holder and I don’t want to let that slide.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I think rdr has the rotten potato due to his ‘oops i misordered’

so then, switch to bo?

It could be also a justification to send it to dip, but sending it to you is also very possible. The one thing we can be pretty sure is that he didn't send to Dream, I think. So practically a 50/50 between sending it to you or to dip

I’m already on bo

And yeah, theres no way we can know who has it. But bo is just obviously mafia

[Kakarroto]

alright, gonna switch to

##vote bo

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Vote count 6.6

I get post #4000.

bo_sox48 (2) JustAGuyNamedWill Kakarroto
No‑Kill (1) rdrivera2005
DreamTrawler (1) bo_sox48
Kakarroto (1) DiplomacyandWarfare
rdrivera2005 (1) DreamTrawler

bo_sox48 is about to become a bo_tato.

20 minutes to go.