M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

Eden vs Jamiet

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Jamiet I know saying this never helps but I think you ought to take a step back and collect yourself. You've been doing so well so far.

[President Eden]

Eden vs Jamiet

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Jamiet I know saying this never helps but I think you ought to take a step back and collect yourself. You've been doing so well so far.

He’s just going to have to burn himself out on it. He’ll come around before EOD.

[Jamiet99uk]

Eden vs Jamiet

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Jamiet I know saying this never helps but I think you ought to take a step back and collect yourself. You've been doing so well so far.

Tell Eden that.

His vote on me isn't wrong, it is FAKE.

I call him on it.

[Jamiet99uk]

Eden vs Jamiet

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Jamiet I know saying this never helps but I think you ought to take a step back and collect yourself. You've been doing so well so far.

He’s just going to have to burn himself out on it. He’ll come around before EOD.

Fake. Am I scum, yes or no? Answer like your life depends on getting the answer right.

[Vecna]

well, this was some good pre-bedtime entertainment

(really dont get people calling this fake, but I guess im not omnipotent)

[snowy801]

Eden vs Jamiet

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Jamiet I know saying this never helps but I think you ought to take a step back and collect yourself. You've been doing so well so far.

Tell Eden that.

His vote on me isn't wrong, it is FAKE.

I call him on it.

I mean sure, if you want to call him fake scum and wagon him go for it. Calls for gladiation is over the top and only brings ridicule rather than emphasize, which is what I assume you were going for

[Bonatogether]

@bona what's an emc-meta and how does it apply to Flum? I presume it's not just literally not posting every phase

Also, how do you note the disparity between TFB stating I'm his scum read and voting me (rather enthusiastically) and his null read on his list?

@bozo I'd appreciate an answer to Flum's question to you (re: cop)

Back in my meta on everyone post, I cited emc saying that flum didn't give much of a shit. That's the emc-meta.

It's weird.

What do you think of his sudden burst of shit giving at the start of today? Would you characterize his behavior afterwards as having resumed said emc-meta?

These feel like questions meant to predetermine the answers lol

I don't really know what to make of it, but if I had to say, it's probably that he's angry that you're denying his perceived locktownness. Perhaps chaqa and flum are both scum, in which case, this feels out of character for scum!flum. I town his response.

Yes.

[Jamiet99uk]

President Eden's "read" on me is fake. I have demonstrated this. Its nonsense.

Do you believe him in spite of my response?

Vote for me then.

[President Eden]

Jamiet I know saying this never helps but I think you ought to take a step back and collect yourself. You've been doing so well so far.

He’s just going to have to burn himself out on it. He’ll come around before EOD.

Fake. Am I scum, yes or no? Answer like your life depends on getting the answer right.

Why would I do that, when it so obviously doesn’t

well, this was some good pre-bedtime entertainment

(really dont get people calling this fake, but I guess im not omnipotent)

I’m inclined to believe it’s real, but it was quite sudden and disproportionate, so it’s hard not to at least consider the world where it’s fake.

[Vecna]

hows the pub jamiet? what u drinking?

[bozotheclown]

I wonder if jasnah was The Godfather and that’s why there was such a push to protect her

If she were the Godfather this would have been the worst mafia play I've ever seen in my life. This is just dumb Chaqa.

It would not be any better if she was non-GF mafia.

[bozotheclown]

I think the Oracle needs to be used on someone whose alignment we didn't know.

I do not think it would be a bad use of the oracle if there is not a cop CC, because in that case finding out damo's role does tell us the alignment of someone whose alignment we don't know (Chaqa), and probably a second as well (Fluminator if damo was not the cop, PE if damo was the cop). I think it is a better alternative to eventually DKing Chaqa despite no cop CC and never knowing who was the real cop.

This assumes there isn't another cop out there.

Yes, that is why I said if there is not a cop CC.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet I know saying this never helps but I think you ought to take a step back and collect yourself. You've been doing so well so far.

Tell Eden that.

His vote on me isn't wrong, it is FAKE.

I call him on it.

I mean sure, if you want to call him fake scum and wagon him go for it. Calls for gladiation is over the top and only brings ridicule rather than emphasize, which is what I assume you were going for

No.

It's an extreme case. He's harming the game with his lies and this needs to be resolved. Vote me or PE please.

[rdrivera2005]

That you usually call me your spokesperson when we're both town. You didn't in that mini game where you were the vig (and in fact you made the same argument about me not being your spokesperson to contribute to your scumread of me) and you didn't when I subbed in for brain a game or two ago, where you also scumread me (though subbing late is kind of different).

Well, maybe I am remembering older games. I think I played too much Mafia games for my own sanity.
Or maybe you have better memory and I just need to change the way I try to read you.
In this game, the Chaqa vote is what specifically make me think you are scum because I can't see rational justification to it and I expect you to play well.

My Chaqa vote today?

Yes, yesterday I also voted Chaqa. But today I can't see why start the day voting him as he kept his claim and claimed EOD. If his situation isn't solved at some point with a CC or mechanically we can kill him, right now in the case where he is scum he limits the RB options and if he is town he is probably the unlucky cop. But this have been discussed and nobody is voting him.

Also, what is this thing between PE and Jamiet? Should I read it or can I just skip it?

[bozotheclown]

Those are reasonable motives, I admit.

Well, you keep keeping an eye out.

@rdrivera/kgray have you noticed you both claim the other puts your thoughts to words better than yourselves?

I don't think Kgray said this, but if she did I will take as a great compliment.

Honestly, I usually have a hard time convincing people of my thoughts even when I am totally sure of it (remember the game I was cop and people still choose to believe Bozo). I think she write things more objectively and people tend to follow her.

Almost all of those that chose to believe me were mafia or 3P.

[Jamiet99uk]

hows the pub jamiet? what u drinking?

I've been in the Lexington, my favourite pub in London, with my beautiful friend Jasmine. She's gone home now and I'm having one more. My tipsy state does not stop me from seeing that PE is lying about my participation.

[President Eden]

PE is lying about his read on me
He doesn’t believe his own words.
He is insincere.
He is trying to wagon me because he knows I'm always likely to be scumread by dome people.
It's a scummy strategy.
He's scum.

Believe me. Or believe him. I challenge you to pick one.

No, I found your engagement in the thread to be superficial and easily within your mafia range, so I called it out. I doubt anybody follows. I am highly amused by your reaction though, and I suspect it will enable others to read you much more easily

Fake.

You don't believe a word of that. You're too intelligent to form such a stupid conclusion if you actually read my posts.

Anyway to give you a more serious response, while I'm flattered by your assessment of me, the truth is that I am neither particularly intelligent nor immune to forming stupid conclusions, if indeed my conclusion here is wrong (which is still far from certain). This wouldn't be the first stupid conclusion I have formed, if it indeed stupid, nor will it be the last. If your entire premise is that me coming to a stupid conclusion = I'm mafia, then there are many, many games of me being stupid as town to contradict it.

All that said, I maintain that your contributions are within your mafia range, and it is only your more recent sign of life here that points me toward you being town.

[President Eden]

Well, maybe I am remembering older games. I think I played too much Mafia games for my own sanity.
Or maybe you have better memory and I just need to change the way I try to read you.
In this game, the Chaqa vote is what specifically make me think you are scum because I can't see rational justification to it and I expect you to play well.

My Chaqa vote today?

Yes, yesterday I also voted Chaqa. But today I can't see why start the day voting him as he kept his claim and claimed EOD. If his situation isn't solved at some point with a CC or mechanically we can kill him, right now in the case where he is scum he limits the RB options and if he is town he is probably the unlucky cop. But this have been discussed and nobody is voting him.

Also, what is this thing between PE and Jamiet? Should I read it or can I just skip it?

I advise skipping, the thrust of it is that Jamie is mad that I called his engagement superficial, you can decide whether Jamie getting mad about such a thing is town-indicative or not without reading it I think.

[bozotheclown]

I don't think Kgray said this, but if she did I will take as a great compliment.

Honestly, I usually have a hard time convincing people of my thoughts even when I am totally sure of it (remember the game I was cop and people still choose to believe Bozo). I think she write things more objectively and people tend to follow her.

To be fair, the people who didn't follow you there were scum, the jester, and Johnny Big Horse. You got all the townies, and were convincing enough that I was confident voting for you.

He also missed both HB (who was unfortunately absent EoD) and foodcoats

It was a pretty one sided vote, I think 7-2? So I see where he's coming from

That being said I hardly think that result was your fault, rdrivera

It was only that one sided because you accidentally voted for yourself at EOD.

[snowy801]

To be fair, the people who didn't follow you there were scum, the jester, and Johnny Big Horse. You got all the townies, and were convincing enough that I was confident voting for you.

He also missed both HB (who was unfortunately absent EoD) and foodcoats

It was a pretty one sided vote, I think 7-2? So I see where he's coming from

That being said I hardly think that result was your fault, rdrivera

It was only that one sided because you accidentally voted for yourself at EOD.

Oh yeah, I did do that
Still 6-3