MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[bozotheclown]

killing the ezic maf gaurantees three clears are alive the next day phase and its mathematically a solved game

I think you are correct that finding the last E mafia would make things easier, I am not sure if it is an automatic town win.

[damo666]

sabi and macca both dont seem to be questioning whether I was really roleblocked whereas bozo kinda tried to spin that all along

I did question why you're still alive since it seems one or both scum teams are targeting big posters.

with three clears ahead of me and the doc wasnt dead before last night I assume both scum players were shooting at doc candidates and they realized I wasnt one

This makes sense.

[BesharamSabi]

I love how I'm useless but lfischl hasn't done anything besides kill Flum.

[bozotheclown]

##vote bozo

I feel like bozo is the ezic forger

Not long ago you had me as cleared of being the forger because of TFB's scan of me. While I do not think I am cleared, you would have to think that I targeted myself N2 instead of ghug. I think the E mafia very likely protected ghug again N2, since he was under suspicion D2 and he was the roleblocker.

[BesharamSabi]

Why is damo following everything brainbomb is saying?

[Foxcastle]

Updating my list to start.

Possible Kolechian Teams (everyone except Macca, me, lifschl):

Bes Dur Flu
Boz Dur Flu
Bra Dur Flu
The Dur Flu
Dam Dur Flu

Possible Ezik Teams (everyone except me, lfischl):

Mac Cap Ghu
Bes Cap Ghu
Boz Cap Ghu
Bra Cap Ghu
The Cap Ghu
Dam Cap Ghu

I know that many exclusions have been posited. This is just the complete working list.

[bozotheclown]

do we think the last two scum have a good idea of who each other is/are?

do we think they would not want each other to die today?

can we pinpoint who they are based on feigned disinterest or some discernable behavior?

I think if we DK a mafia today, it would be hard for us to lose, so the mafia likely want to see a town DKed today. However, I doubt they have any better idea of each other's identity than the rest of us.

[Foxcastle]

do we think the last two scum have a good idea of who each other is/are?

do we think they would not want each other to die today?

can we pinpoint who they are based on feigned disinterest or some discernable behavior?

They might not want the other to die so that miskill+2 NKs reduces town to 5 players, but then they really run the risk of hitting eachother. Overall, I'm skeptical of this.

[damo666]

##vote bozo

I feel like bozo is the ezic forger

Not long ago you had me as cleared of being the forger because of TFB's scan of me. While I do not think I am cleared, you would have to think that I targeted myself N2 instead of ghug. I think the E mafia very likely protected ghug again N2, since he was under suspicion D2 and he was the roleblocker.

Was this the reason I ruled Bozo out as Ezic?

[damo666]

Updating my list to start.

Possible Kolechian Teams (everyone except Macca, me, lifschl):

Bes Dur Flu
Boz Dur Flu
Bra Dur Flu
The Dur Flu
Dam Dur Flu

Possible Ezik Teams (everyone except me, lfischl):

Mac Cap Ghu
Bes Cap Ghu
Boz Cap Ghu
Bra Cap Ghu
The Cap Ghu
Dam Cap Ghu

I know that many exclusions have been posited. This is just the complete working list.

TFB not clear?

[bozotheclown]

##vote bozo

I feel like bozo is the ezic forger

Not long ago you had me as cleared of being the forger because of TFB's scan of me. While I do not think I am cleared, you would have to think that I targeted myself N2 instead of ghug. I think the E mafia very likely protected ghug again N2, since he was under suspicion D2 and he was the roleblocker.

Was this the reason I ruled Bozo out as Ezic?

I am not sure if that is why, but since the E mafia did not know ghug was scanned N1, they very likely protected him again N2.

[Foxcastle]

Durga pushed Meme hard on D1. I wonder if that was just lucky or if she correctly scumread him? She also ended up pushing Macca briefly, but without much reason.

Macca idgaf attitude is good vibes

Interesting interactions with Macca if you search their name in Durga's iso. She does a complete 180 on townreading Macca to scumreading them.

That's actually quite scummy. I could see Macca noticing that and wanting to nightkill her for that.
It could also be she forgot her read on teammate Macca but I think that's less likely.

Flum voted Macca with no explanation 8 hours prior to this very near the start of day 2.

This could be a sign that Durga and Flum concluded that Macca was team Ezik and wanted to try to flip them. That doesn't mean they were right, but Durga is pretty good at this...

I think that's a good enough reason to put Macca closer to the front of the line.

[bozotheclown]

Updating my list to start.

Possible Kolechian Teams (everyone except Macca, me, lifschl):

Bes Dur Flu
Boz Dur Flu
Bra Dur Flu
The Dur Flu
Dam Dur Flu

Possible Ezik Teams (everyone except me, lfischl):

Mac Cap Ghu
Bes Cap Ghu
Boz Cap Ghu
Bra Cap Ghu
The Cap Ghu
Dam Cap Ghu

I know that many exclusions have been posited. This is just the complete working list.

TFB not clear?

Foxcastle must not be caught up yet.

[Foxcastle]

Updating my list to start.

Possible Kolechian Teams (everyone except Macca, me, lifschl):

Bes Dur Flu
Boz Dur Flu
Bra Dur Flu
The Dur Flu
Dam Dur Flu

Possible Ezik Teams (everyone except me, lfischl):

Mac Cap Ghu
Bes Cap Ghu
Boz Cap Ghu
Bra Cap Ghu
The Cap Ghu
Dam Cap Ghu

I know that many exclusions have been posited. This is just the complete working list.

TFB not clear?

Sorry, my bad.

[Foxcastle]

Possible Kolechian Teams (everyone except Macca, me, lifschl, TFB):

Bes Dur Flu
Boz Dur Flu
Bra Dur Flu
Dam Dur Flu

Possible Ezik Teams (everyone except me, lfischl, TFB):

Mac Cap Ghu
Bes Cap Ghu
Boz Cap Ghu
Bra Cap Ghu
Dam Cap Ghu

[damo666]

Durga pushed Meme hard on D1. I wonder if that was just lucky or if she correctly scumread him? She also ended up pushing Macca briefly, but without much reason.

Macca idgaf attitude is good vibes

Interesting interactions with Macca if you search their name in Durga's iso. She does a complete 180 on townreading Macca to scumreading them.

That's actually quite scummy. I could see Macca noticing that and wanting to nightkill her for that.
It could also be she forgot her read on teammate Macca but I think that's less likely.

Flum voted Macca with no explanation 8 hours prior to this very near the start of day 2.

This could be a sign that Durga and Flum concluded that Macca was team Ezik and wanted to try to flip them. That doesn't mean they were right, but Durga is pretty good at this...

I think that's a good enough reason to put Macca closer to the front of the line.

And suggests Macca not K hence my argument the last K slot is either Bozo or Sabi.

[bozotheclown]

Durga pushed Meme hard on D1. I wonder if that was just lucky or if she correctly scumread him? She also ended up pushing Macca briefly, but without much reason.

Macca idgaf attitude is good vibes

Interesting interactions with Macca if you search their name in Durga's iso. She does a complete 180 on townreading Macca to scumreading them.

That's actually quite scummy. I could see Macca noticing that and wanting to nightkill her for that.
It could also be she forgot her read on teammate Macca but I think that's less likely.

Flum voted Macca with no explanation 8 hours prior to this very near the start of day 2.

This could be a sign that Durga and Flum concluded that Macca was team Ezik and wanted to try to flip them. That doesn't mean they were right, but Durga is pretty good at this...

I think that's a good enough reason to put Macca closer to the front of the line.

Also, our collective reads have proven good so far:

In other news I made a quick chart

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png

In other other news I have to go get my ass whooped in a tournament so I'll be back in 40 ish

[damo666]

Possible Kolechian Teams (everyone except Macca, me, lifschl, TFB):

Bes Dur Flu
Boz Dur Flu
Bra Dur Flu
Dam Dur Flu

Possible Ezik Teams (everyone except me, lfischl, TFB):

Mac Cap Ghu
Bes Cap Ghu
Boz Cap Ghu
Bra Cap Ghu
Dam Cap Ghu

Brain can't be K

[Foxcastle]

Durga pushed Meme hard on D1. I wonder if that was just lucky or if she correctly scumread him? She also ended up pushing Macca briefly, but without much reason.

Interesting interactions with Macca if you search their name in Durga's iso. She does a complete 180 on townreading Macca to scumreading them.

That's actually quite scummy. I could see Macca noticing that and wanting to nightkill her for that.
It could also be she forgot her read on teammate Macca but I think that's less likely.

Flum voted Macca with no explanation 8 hours prior to this very near the start of day 2.

This could be a sign that Durga and Flum concluded that Macca was team Ezik and wanted to try to flip them. That doesn't mean they were right, but Durga is pretty good at this...

I think that's a good enough reason to put Macca closer to the front of the line.

And suggests Macca not K hence my argument the last K slot is either Bozo or Sabi.

Macca can't be Kolechian...

[Foxcastle]

Possible Kolechian Teams (everyone except Macca, me, lifschl, TFB):

Bes Dur Flu
Boz Dur Flu
Bra Dur Flu
Dam Dur Flu

Possible Ezik Teams (everyone except me, lfischl, TFB):

Mac Cap Ghu
Bes Cap Ghu
Boz Cap Ghu
Bra Cap Ghu
Dam Cap Ghu

Brain can't be K

Why not? (I'm sorry, I think this has been clarified before, and I'm just not tracking the game very well...)