Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

Wouldn't the logical person to vote for Darg being Hosuke?

Anyone who isn't clear is at risk to be a mafia, and Hosuke is super unlikely to be the cow target I think.

Yes that makes sense.

##Vote No Lynch.

[xorxes]

Wouldn't the logical person to vote for Darg being Hosuke?

Anyone who isn't clear is at risk to be a mafia, and Hosuke is super unlikely to be the cow target I think.

We can't all vote no-lynch though, we need at least two people voting dargo (or Espresso) and everyone else on singleton wagons.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why did both claimants wait almost three hours to make the claim? I thought that should be the first thing that should be done after EON.

Yep.

Admittedly, the risk of being nighgtkilled for both of them approached zero, but Espresso didn't even know that damo was the Doc so how would he know that he was under no risk? And dargo is clearly scum, possibly the cow.

I think the clears should nominate one person to vote for dargo and everyone else should vote no-lybch, but that's just my opinion. I don't want to get cow disease.

WAIT

WAIT A MOMENT

THAT WOULD SIMPLY RESULT IN A NO-LYNCH

##unvote

[Percy Williams]

What an interesting choice. Why would the scum team be PR hunting when there are 3 clears?

Maybe their roleblocker is under threat and they could not be sure they would be able to kill or roleblock both the Doc and the Cop on night 4?

Actually, the one use cop can't cop until night 5.

[xorxes]

What an interesting choice. Why would the scum team be PR hunting when there are 3 clears?

Maybe their roleblocker is under threat and they could not be sure they would be able to kill or roleblock both the Doc and the Cop on night 4?

Actually, the one use cop can't cop until night 5.

True, so that was not the reason. They had to kill damo at some point though.

[Chaqa]

Oh derp. OK, we need a slightly different plan then.

And mafia could always force their hand and swing things last second...

My head hurts.

[bo_sox48]

I think the clears should nominate one person to vote for dargo and everyone else should vote no-lybch, but that's just my opinion. I don't want to get cow disease.

Sorry, brainfart. That doesn't work.

It does with a simple modification: everyone except the clear unvotes. They're all mod-killed, Town wins.

This is actually... not a terrible plan lmao

[Chaqa]

In past games, an unvote does not cause a modkill, since a vote had been cast previously. Has this changed?

But wouldn't the mafia all cast last-second votes and cause it to be clears vs. mafia?

[xorxes]

Oh derp. OK, we need a slightly different plan then.

And mafia could always force their hand and swing things last second...

My head hurts.

We will have to choose the people most unlikely to be cowed by dargo and make it a reasonably large number so that any shenanigans will cost them more than it benefits them.

[Foxcastle]

In past games, an unvote does not cause a modkill, since a vote had been cast previously. Has this changed?

But wouldn't the mafia all cast last-second votes and cause it to be clears vs. mafia?

As counterexamples, in recent games, unvotes were not considered valid to avoid modkill. However: I was having fun. I'm sure the GMs would much prefer we play the game rather than trying to break it.

[Jamiet99uk]

In past games, an unvote does not cause a modkill, since a vote had been cast previously. Has this changed?

But wouldn't the mafia all cast last-second votes and cause it to be clears vs. mafia?

For at least the last 15 games it has been against the rules to end the phase on an "unvote".

[Chaqa]

I suppose for now we're spitballing until we here thoughts from Tom.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think the clears should nominate one person to vote for dargo and everyone else should vote no-lybch, but that's just my opinion. I don't want to get cow disease.

Sorry, brainfart. That doesn't work.

It does with a simple modification: everyone except the clear unvotes. They're all mod-killed, Town wins.

That invokes multiple players breaking the "must vote" rule and would be very shitty. I refuse to engage in such nonsense.

[Percy Williams]

Wow, that was a lot. The way that the scum team has been killing off specific roles, and not the town clears makes Bozotheclown's Massclaim look even more scummy.
As far as EP and Dargo, I'm entirely sure what to think. I didn't expect a counterclaim, or that scum might claim one not on their list. I believe Dargo's more between the two, because he scumread and votes me despite a report I didn't do anything, and because he was the counterclaim. I think that it's not TvT, so If we lynch Town we have to pynch the other, but I'm also not sure a scum lynch exonerates the other.

[Percy Williams]

Sorry, brainfart. That doesn't work.

It does with a simple modification: everyone except the clear unvotes. They're all mod-killed, Town wins.

That invokes multiple players breaking the "must vote" rule and would be very shitty. I refuse to engage in such nonsense.

He's gotta be scum! He doesn't want to go with a plan that makes Town win!

[dargorygel]

I crumbed. First, my one word thing was trying to be like a single word tough ole tracker. I didn’t stick with it because it was too hard. Then I tried to insert phrases that would show my role… I am cutting and pasting these… so bear with me: I referred to bozo’s “ bozo's relentless pursuit.” And soon, “I was gone a LOT” … that night I referred to my feet: “be placed at anyone's feet.”

And I am out of time for cutting and pasting… I did more.

I think that the scum team decided to hunt for the dog by fakeclaiming. Espresso is probably just a goon, and they were willing to sacrifice him. I probably should have waited to counter, but didn’t want the fake to get too established.

But really… I don’t know WHY they claimed. Or specifically (Jamie?) why they didn’t just choose one of their assigned lying roles.

Sorry for the disorganized reply.

I’ll post when I can.

[Jamiet99uk]

How is "I was gone a LOT" a tracker crumb??

[Foxcastle]

Guys, there is a possibility that Tracker is a fakeclaim role and both Espresso and Darg are scum and one is the Cow, and they have done this purposefully so that one of our town clears will blow themselves up on (likely) Darg.

I think this is likely, actually. Town speculated (incorrectly) on a similar ploy in M46, and several players from that game are in this one...

[Chaqa]

Sigh. Some of Dargo's crumbs make some sense. I'm a bit confused similar to Jamie though. I guess wait and see?

[xorxes]

Guys, there is a possibility that Tracker is a fakeclaim role and both Espresso and Darg are scum and one is the Cow, and they have done this purposefully so that one of our town clears will blow themselves up on (likely) Darg.

I think this is likely, actually. Town speculated (incorrectly) on a similar ploy in M46, and several players from that game are in this one...

It's a definite possibility. Ezio effectively used this ploy in one game in which he counterclaimed teammate rivera.

However, whether Espresso is scum or not, it seems that dargo certainly is. Unless we believe that scum somehow figured out those absurd crumbs and that's why they roleblocked him.