Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[FlaviusAetius]

People who are saying the judge is endangered if Balki claims are very sus imo. The judge would be perfectly fine because mafia have to rb Balki and kill rdr so we're not endangering the judge.

If Mafia takes their chances and kills Judge, our scum lynch attempt tomorrow is effectively crippled. You're just a damn idiot for not realizing how important the judge is for town.

Chippe, reporter is more effective than judge. Judge gives us 0 information, just limits our lynch pool. He still has to choose effectively, and town still has to choose correctly.
Reporter gives us real, actual information to inform our decision.

Information > Limited lynch pool (especially if judge is an idiot)

Agreed but at this point it doesnt really matter, rdrivera has already outted himself, the Judge should just remain hidden

[Nephthys]

To clarify the last few pages mainly for myself, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

1. Balki is not going to lynched.
2. Debate over whether Balki claims his PR
3. Current lynch wagons,
- Fox
- Xorx
- Percy
4. Chippe Is annoying
5. Teacon looks like shit

[FlaviusAetius]

Not gonna lie all these odds are pretty confusing, can someone answer Squiggs post with them to make it a little more clear

[Balki Bartokomous]

Hey, soooo, y’all seem mixed on whether I should out my power role scan. I would like to ask that nobody come forward with a PR claim unless they give me a chance to reveal first, as this is the one way I can prove that I am Blind Assassin.

If 8 people vote Reveal in blue, then I’ll reveal my scan. If not, I’ll wait until EON, so that it cannot influence Night Actions. I’d like to reveal by EON, because if this player flips, I no longer have a way to reveal my role.

Also, for the record, I believe that Foxcastle and teacon are both mafia. But that’s not based on anything special. Just my reads. I have no reason to lie. If you guys lynch Town this phase, I lose right along with you.

[FlaviusAetius]

That's about it Nephthys, also imo
I think we should ignore lurkers, for now, there are too many at this point and I feel like we are taking a shot in the dark if we go after them, lets instead focus on active players where we got information and can find things out
If we get the active players we can then go for the lurkers
The current lurkers are
Xorxes
Percy
Connor
teacon
peterlund
damo

Their probably scum there, but honestly its not even worth going after them at this point, so lets go after someone else

We also can ignore Balki since the BA will take care of him
We can also ignore et since the two picks were likely town v town
We can also ignore rdrivera, I still think him revealing Balki so soon is silly but what you going to do

Flavius(me)
FoxCastle(scum)
Squigs
ND
Nephthys
Durga
Chippie

I think in this pot there's a few scum

[Balki Bartokomous]

I’m pretty sure Chippe is Town. This would be the most bizarre mafia strategy of all time, and I believe that he felt sincerely that he could prove he was VT.

[Nephthys]

Hey, soooo, y’all seem mixed on whether I should out my power role scan. I would like to ask that nobody come forward with a PR claim unless they give me a chance to reveal first, as this is the one way I can prove that I am Blind Assassin.

If 8 people vote Reveal in blue, then I’ll reveal my scan. If not, I’ll wait until EON, so that it cannot influence Night Actions. I’d like to reveal by EON, because if this player flips, I no longer have a way to reveal my role.

Also, for the record, I believe that Foxcastle and teacon are both mafia. But that’s not based on anything special. Just my reads. I have no reason to lie. If you guys lynch Town this phase, I lose right along with you.

Reveal

[Nephthys]

That's about it Nephthys, also imo
I think we should ignore lurkers, for now, there are too many at this point and I feel like we are taking a shot in the dark if we go after them, lets instead focus on active players where we got information and can find things out
If we get the active players we can then go for the lurkers
The current lurkers are
Xorxes
Percy
Connor
teacon
peterlund
damo

Their probably scum there, but honestly its not even worth going after them at this point, so lets go after someone else

We also can ignore Balki since the BA will take care of him
We can also ignore et since the two picks were likely town v town
We can also ignore rdrivera, I still think him revealing Balki so soon is silly but what you going to do

Flavius(me)
FoxCastle(scum)
Squigs
ND
Nephthys
Durga
Chippie

I think in this pot there's a few scum

You left me out of the lurkers,

please explain why

[Nephthys]

Also btw, current POE

Balki Bartokomous
Connorcompton
et
FlaviusAetius
Foxcastle
Moscowfleet/Peterlund
Percy Williams
teacon
xorxes

Of those, peter and et are the ones I would hedge are town

[Durga]

Balki no more votes. Please just reveal it.

[Durga]

If you're BA you'll actually reveal it. Your only chance at winning is the death of the roleblocker. It's a little scummy if you don't reveal actually, because then we have to way to confirm your claim, and our best bet is actually to lynch you.

[Durga]

There's a high chance you've scanned mafia anyway. Even if you town read them.

[Durga]

if you're going to use chippe/flav as a reason not to reveal then i'm actually going to advocate for your lynch cuz that has to be a scum move

[FlaviusAetius]

Also, I took a break earlier from the game, so Im more calm now, Im not really sorry for being like that though since I think it was warranted and Im not taking anything back, and I still think FoxCastle is scum every known towns person thinks hes scum ie; Carl, TrPrado, rdrivera, Espresso
Tom said he's coming around on him since his Day 1, but still wasnt sure
Darg never really said anything about him
Bozo never really said anything about him

If we look at everyone who Fox has voted for;
On Day 1
Me almost 7 hours before EoD he was even on near EoD(i think even 8 mintues before EoD) and said he would change if convinced, and never was to change to TrPrado

He votes MoscowFleet despite being obvious lurker(why is he going lurker on Day 2)?
He also now goes TrPrado on Day 2, great timing

And he stays on Espresso the entire day

[FlaviusAetius]

That's about it Nephthys, also imo
I think we should ignore lurkers, for now, there are too many at this point and I feel like we are taking a shot in the dark if we go after them, lets instead focus on active players where we got information and can find things out
If we get the active players we can then go for the lurkers
The current lurkers are
Xorxes
Percy
Connor
teacon
peterlund
damo

Their probably scum there, but honestly its not even worth going after them at this point, so lets go after someone else

We also can ignore Balki since the BA will take care of him
We can also ignore et since the two picks were likely town v town
We can also ignore rdrivera, I still think him revealing Balki so soon is silly but what you going to do

Flavius(me)
FoxCastle(scum)
Squigs
ND
Nephthys
Durga
Chippie

I think in this pot there's a few scum

You left me out of the lurkers,

please explain why

Because you started talking, I was going to put Peter and teacon in there too because they promised to talk more today, but honestly, I doubt they ever will at this point

[Squigs44]

Overview of Percy and questions for Percy (click on stars for links):

In his first 9 posts the only thing he does aside from joking is:
✯ Slight shading of Flav
✯ Clarification that the above wasn't shading Flav (kinda confusing because this looks like a contradiction)
✯ Asks someone else to count how many of my gut reads are scum.

Then he makes what I like to call popcorn posts. He pops in a comment here or there that interprets someone else's thoughts or makes a comment that doesn't really matter. Things of note amongst his many, many popcorn posts are these things:
✯ Townread of Chippe and hedgy read of me.
✯ Votes Bozo. Reasoning: Doesn't like what Bozo is playing at.
✯ Townreads Carl, teacon, et.
✯ Makes several posts about why Chippe is likely not mafia.
✯ Asks if anyone else is concerned by Bozo's tunnel on Chippe

This post is the first one by Percy that I actually like. He gives decent answers to a lot of questions.
During N1 he explains his vote on Bozo, and this is actually a townie post imo. He also expands his town list with reasonable town reads.
He starts off day 2 by posing some weird questions. His vote of EP is consistent with his townread of et that he held from earlier in the game. He was otherwise pretty unimpactful on D2.

Overall Percy has been pretty unimpactful this game. I feel like his votes both D1 and D2 were consistent and reasonable, but not very strong or bold. Basically he doesn't have any red flags, but he also doesn't have any big townie moments.

Conclusion: Still wary of Percy, but not a strong scumread so do not lynch today.

Questions for Percy:
You talked about how readslists are beneficial, and asked people to post full lists like TrPrado did. Yet you haven't given one yourself. Why?
You were pretty absent and unimpactful D2 compared to D1. Why?

[Squigs44]

That's great except we are in end game, its effectively mylo as you yourself pointed out.

But if judge is safe and he claims now that doesn't help us lynch mafia. I was saying if judge is safe he shouldn't claim. We still have over half the players, so I wouldn't consider this the end game (even though the game could end soon).

While I see where you are coming from, I think having one person that we know is speaking from towns best interests in important.

E.g. I heavily townread Durga although I can't be 100% sure of everything as she is not clear.

I think having the certainty of a clear could be useful

Barring a CC, Rdrivera can act in that capacity though.

[Durga]

have xorxes and teacon acknowledged each other in this game?

[FlaviusAetius]

Read my post Squigs, stop looking at lurkers we can still make them talk so I guess what you did is good, but its not as important atm

[Durga]

Flav wants us to ignore my entire scum pool Nice.