Mafia 57 Matrix

[Ezio]

@non-voters and HR voters - join a wagon and push your case. We can't have 3 viable wagons at EOD or scum could rush one.

Scum buddy trying to protect his scum buddy. Gold was the second name on Rdriv's list!!!

Which of the current wagons is Goldfinger trying to protect?

Be specific.

Peterlund is making the case goldie is trying to protect HR.

[Ezio]

Why the fuck is EMC on Jamiet?

[Ezio]

@EMC are you shitting me right now? We don't have time for this stupidity. Get your ass on a real wagon, or make some real convincing arguments that you've found the actual scum and we need to get on him immediately.

God I forgot how tilting these EOD's are.

[goldfinger0303]

What do you think about EoD4, and the fact that nobody at all gave enough of a damn to move votes despite many people being around?

I think that Tom/Bismarck/therul/Tem all look bad for having their votes on dead wagons at the end.

Option 1) Scum were content in their positions and didn't shift. Fox/HR/Temasek all fit the bill.

Option 2) Scum was a contending wagon, and was saved. Bunny, therul and myself moved off Temasek. HB shifted off HR, and is the primary reason HR wasn't killed (provided ghug would have moved to the wagon )

[peterlund]

@non-voters and HR voters - join a wagon and push your case. We can't have 3 viable wagons at EOD or scum could rush one.

Scum buddy trying to protect his scum buddy. Gold was the second name on Rdriv's list!!!

Which of the current wagons is Goldfinger trying to protect?

Be specific.

How can I be more specific? Gold wrote "HR voters - join a wagon and ...". That means in plain English "get off HR!"

[Ezio]

@hamilton same for you buddy. At least you posted a case on me, but this isn't the time for a new wagon that's not gonna get enough traction. There's less than an hour in the day.

[Hellenic Riot]

What do you think about EoD4, and the fact that nobody at all gave enough of a damn to move votes despite many people being around?

I think that Tom/Bismarck/therul/Tem all look bad for having their votes on dead wagons at the end.

Option 1) Scum were content in their positions and didn't shift. Fox/HR/Temasek all fit the bill.

Option 2) Scum was a contending wagon, and was saved. Bunny, therul and myself moved off Temasek. HB shifted off HR, and is the primary reason HR wasn't killed (provided ghug would have moved to the wagon )

ghug never remotely suggested he was willing to vote me D4 - he explicitly defended me at the time, which is why he voted rdrivera.

There is a possibility that Temalund was saved but I do find it quite remote, especially as therul was around the entire EoD while posting and yet stuck on his vanity wagon instead of voting rdrivera to ensure that Temasek (or indeed me) weren't eliminated. That he was around and yet felt no desire to change his vote does indeed strongly stink of scum, and it's because of that that I think Temalund must be town - therul would surely have either bussed or saved, not done neither.

[Ezio]

What semi-rational universe is there where EMC is not voting foxcastle?

1. They're both scum and EMC figures it doesn't matter and puts his vote to lol.

2. EMC is cop with inno scan on Foxcastle and knows game's over if it's between them? (clearly impossible I know)

3????

[Jamiet99uk]

Why the fuck is EMC on Jamiet?

1. He is scum.
2. He does not like making useful votes.

[goldfinger0303]

Can't have it be three wagons, Peter. Don't read any more into than that. If HR is where Jamiet and ghug land, I'll join them. But my current preference is Fox

[Jamiet99uk]

Scum buddy trying to protect his scum buddy. Gold was the second name on Rdriv's list!!!

Which of the current wagons is Goldfinger trying to protect?

Be specific.

How can I be more specific? Gold wrote "HR voters - join a wagon and ...". That means in plain English "get off HR!"

Thank you for clarifying.

[e.m.c^42]

@EMC are you shitting me right now? We don't have time for this stupidity. Get your ass on a real wagon, or make some real convincing arguments that you've found the actual scum and we need to get on him immediately.

God I forgot how tilting these EOD's are.

I don't have anything important to add to the case, and I kind of townread HR and Foxc a little more than Jamie...

[Jamiet99uk]

I am staying on EMC.

[goldfinger0303]

What do you think about EoD4, and the fact that nobody at all gave enough of a damn to move votes despite many people being around?

I think that Tom/Bismarck/therul/Tem all look bad for having their votes on dead wagons at the end.

Option 1) Scum were content in their positions and didn't shift. Fox/HR/Temasek all fit the bill.

Option 2) Scum was a contending wagon, and was saved. Bunny, therul and myself moved off Temasek. HB shifted off HR, and is the primary reason HR wasn't killed (provided ghug would have moved to the wagon )

ghug never remotely suggested he was willing to vote me D4 - he explicitly defended me at the time, which is why he voted rdrivera.

There is a possibility that Temalund was saved but I do find it quite remote, especially as therul was around the entire EoD while posting and yet stuck on his vanity wagon instead of voting rdrivera to ensure that Temasek (or indeed me) weren't eliminated. That he was around and yet felt no desire to change his vote does indeed strongly stink of scum, and it's because of that that I think Temalund must be town - therul would surely have either bussed or saved, not done neither.

So what's your option 3 then?

[Jamiet99uk]

@EMC are you shitting me right now? We don't have time for this stupidity. Get your ass on a real wagon, or make some real convincing arguments that you've found the actual scum and we need to get on him immediately.

God I forgot how tilting these EOD's are.

I don't have anything important to add to the case, and I kind of townread HR and Foxc a little more than Jamie...

What "case"?

What is your case on me?

I'm as town as you can get.

You're scum.

[goldfinger0303]

I'll admit, Jamiet, that emc isn't doing me any favors here with his actions

[Hellenic Riot]

I've gotta say that this is not the first EoD where goldie has made moves that protect emc.

D3: He's on emc all day until TFB takes over, and is the vote that takes it from 5-4 to 6-3 and thus guarantees emc isn't killed

D4: Votes Temasek when emc is joint second largest wagon, putting Temasek into the front. When momentum on Temasek fades he switches to rdrivera

Not to mention the fact that he was the last person to jump on the speedwagon on emc D1, and for someone who's spent the whole day apparently looking for busses, he seems like the prime D1 candidate there.

[Jamiet99uk]

TOWN

JOIN ME ON EMC, PLEASE

LET US NOT ALLOW HIM TO BE SAVED FOR A THIRD TIME

[Hellenic Riot]

I think that Tom/Bismarck/therul/Tem all look bad for having their votes on dead wagons at the end.

Option 1) Scum were content in their positions and didn't shift. Fox/HR/Temasek all fit the bill.

Option 2) Scum was a contending wagon, and was saved. Bunny, therul and myself moved off Temasek. HB shifted off HR, and is the primary reason HR wasn't killed (provided ghug would have moved to the wagon )

ghug never remotely suggested he was willing to vote me D4 - he explicitly defended me at the time, which is why he voted rdrivera.

There is a possibility that Temalund was saved but I do find it quite remote, especially as therul was around the entire EoD while posting and yet stuck on his vanity wagon instead of voting rdrivera to ensure that Temasek (or indeed me) weren't eliminated. That he was around and yet felt no desire to change his vote does indeed strongly stink of scum, and it's because of that that I think Temalund must be town - therul would surely have either bussed or saved, not done neither.

So what's your option 3 then?

I already analysed this. I think all the D4 wagons were town so scum felt no need to change.

[Hellenic Riot]

Indeed the great irony of goldie saying emc must be town because he wasn't bussed when he slots so neatly into an early-game emc-busser role is pretty damn high