MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[e.m.c^42]

As I deep dive through EMC, did we ever get a response to why he suggested doc on Durga and Desperado on Seth? Haven't come across it yet.

Hey, EMC...what did you see on Seth that you felt was worth risking the Desperado?

Seth I felt at the time was the most unknown element, considering he's relatively experienced for a new player; unless he slips up something outrageous it's unlikely he'll ever get lynched, since people are more willing to be sure of their scumreads on people they have meta on, and he gets leniency for being new.

Most comparable situation would be I believe Kitsune's first (or perhaps second?) game here - she was a similar enough variable that won as scum.

[Hamilton Brian]

##Vote Bo

Combination of TrP's hypothesis, my nascent analysis.

[Foxcastle]

Based entirely on voting patterns I think the only possible scumpairs are the following 7

bo Fox
bo rdr
bo seth
bo Bob
Fox Bob
rdr seth
seth Bob

bo appears 4 times, Bob and seth thrice, Fox and rdr twice.

Who wants to zap bo?

Can you... just explain any of this?

Thank you; I went over to mafiascum to read up on VCA but I wasn't seeing anything that helped me make sense of this.

Because for all I know, you've cherrypicked some pairs and "based on voting patterns" means nothing.

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[worcej]

I'm not just shading you, I'm voting for you. You keep calling me scummy but not doing anything else about it, that's what I don't like.

I'm just trying to figure this out ok? I don't wanna miskill you. Fox as scum pretends to be engaged but isn't? I always thought Fox!scum is really amiable and he seems rough here.

I've seen him be both rough and amiable, so I don't consider his tone to be AI when it comes to Fox.

He tunnels as scum and as town! He's rough and he's amiable! He is the best of times, he is the worst of times! He floats like a lepidopteria and stings like a hymenoptera! HE IS.... THE AMAZING... WHATEVER WORCEJ DECIDES IS SCUMMY TODAY!!!

Lol, this made me smile.

Isn't that the whole point of mafia Fox? If the game was so easy as 'If they do X, then they are Y', then this wouldn't be much of a game now would it?

[worcej]

Can you... just explain any of this?

Thank you; I went over to mafiascum to read up on VCA but I wasn't seeing anything that helped me make sense of this.

Because for all I know, you've cherrypicked some pairs and "based on voting patterns" means nothing.

Given the existence as uttered forth in the public works of Puncher and Wattmann of a personal God quaquaquaqua with white beard quaquaquaqua outside time without extension who from the heights of divine apathia divine athambia divine aphasia loves us dearly with some exceptions for reasons unknown but time will tell and suffers like the divine Miranda with those who for reasons unknown but time will tell are plunged in torment plunged in fire whose fire flames if that continues and who can Dear Hamilton: when you do this, it's difficult to parse, even when you bold your response (which is not a convention and makes it look like you've bolded something someone else said. Please stop. doubt it will fire the firmament that is to say blast hell to heaven so blue still and calm so calm with a calm which even though intermittent is better than nothing but not so fast and considering what is more that as a result of the labours left unfinished crowned by the Acacacacademy of Anthropopopometry of Essy-in-Possy of Testew and Cunard it is established beyond all doubt all other doubt than that which clings to the labours of You can use the /quote tag to close a quote block, make your comment, and then open it back up with a new quote take if you want to make multiple running comments on a big quote. men that as a result of the labours unfinished of Testew and Cunard it is established as hereinafter but not so fast for reasons unknown that as a result of the public works of Puncher and Wattmann it is established beyond all doubt that in view of the labours of Fartov and Belcher left unfinished for reasons unknown of Testew and Cunard left unfinished it is established what many deny that man in Possy of Testew and Cunard that man in Essy that man in

My eyes burn.

[Durga]

We've really devolved.

Reminder, that tamperer was alive for 2 nights before dying.

[worcej]

We've really devolved.

Reminder, that tamperer was alive for 2 nights before dying.

This is only important to note for scans on those nights.

[Durga]

Anyone wanna lynch TrPrado looooool

[Durga]

sorry!!!!! kill***

[rdrivera2005]

God, rdr has some weird interactions. He "started" thinking of ghug as scum in two separate back to back posts with completely separate reasons but literally never pushed him or asked him any questions. His difference in push on Bismarck vs Sarah is absolutely bizarre because he specifically called out Sarah as lurking and therefore deserving to be killed several hours before EOD one but his first mention of Bismarck was minutes before the deadline?

Yeah, I'm willing to ##VOTE RDRIVERA

Just to make one point clear. My reasoning on Sarah is personal, has nothing to do with she being a lurker. I believe she shouldn't be allowed to play in Mafia games as she didn't even made an effort to understand how to play and this is unfair with the others.

Going to go out on a limb: Do you feel the same way about EMC?

No It's different. Emc knows how to play and is a pretty decent player when he get ton participate. This game he wasn't even playing due to time constraints and he subbed in.
This said, it's unacceptable to be modkilled again, but I think he will get back before EOD.

[rdrivera2005]

Ey, I ain't dead! EMC has returned from the wild lands of, well, elsewhere.

Speaking of the devil.

[damo666]

Can you... just explain any of this?

Because for all I know, you've cherrypicked some pairs and "based on voting patterns" means nothing.

There are 13 players left. I omit myself and 7 others I deem town which leaves 5. There are 10 possible pairs from 5. Three of these 5 are unlikely from VCA which leaves the 7 quoted. Voila.

Care to explain why you omit those 7 others, and why three of those pairs are unlikely?

And do you understand why it's important to do that rather than just making bald-faced assertions and throwing naked statistics out?

Reason for omissions

Bozo timing of Chaqa vote
Durga ditto
EMC ditto
Summit ditto
TrPrado ditto
Worcej Self Vote
Hamilton Chaqa and ghug's votes D2

rdr/Bob D1&D3 voting
rdr/Fox current vote status
Fox/seth ditto

[rdrivera2005]

I've said what I want. We should kill rdr and in the unlikely event he flips town Bob is a near certainty.

I don't really understand voting outside these two.

rdr preferable to Bob in case Bob is warlock pick.

Unless Fox has something brilliant on why it's not rdr that is where we should be.

(Could it be Fox and rdr? That would be funny).

Pretty unfortunate our townclear is Damo and that he has no power left, so scum might let him live longer.

Thanks rdr!

Sorry, this was uncalled and unnecessary. I am having some RL problems but it doesn't give me the right to be rude. I honestly apologize. In fact you are probably the best town player in this game, considering Ghug catch.

[Durga]

Pretty unfortunate our townclear is Damo and that he has no power left, so scum might let him live longer.

Thanks rdr!

Sorry, this was uncalled and unnecessary. I am having some RL problems but it doesn't give me the right to be rude. I honestly apologize. In fact you are probably the best town player in this game, considering Ghug catch.

okay i'm sorry i do not trust people who apologize for being rude because of RL problems. ghug did that and he was scum.

only scum feel bad about being rude checkmate

[Durga]

There are 13 players left. I omit myself and 7 others I deem town which leaves 5. There are 10 possible pairs from 5. Three of these 5 are unlikely from VCA which leaves the 7 quoted. Voila.

Care to explain why you omit those 7 others, and why three of those pairs are unlikely?

And do you understand why it's important to do that rather than just making bald-faced assertions and throwing naked statistics out?

Reason for omissions

Bozo timing of Chaqa vote
Durga ditto
EMC ditto
Summit ditto
TrPrado ditto
Worcej Self Vote
Hamilton Chaqa and ghug's votes D2

rdr/Bob D1&D3 voting
rdr/Fox current vote status
Fox/seth ditto

damo that is just horrible. bussing IS a thing. and what is good about bozo's chaqa vote timing?

[damo666]

Anyone wanna lynch TrPrado looooool

Not me

[e.m.c^42]

I've somehow lost the tab that had the quote for this, but I think this is reply to @HB and @bo, the read on Chaqa was quite literally, an oddly strong feeling that he was scum. It was exactly same feeling I got the last time he subbed in as scum, but cba to pull the game up. That's all, lol

[damo666]

Care to explain why you omit those 7 others, and why three of those pairs are unlikely?

And do you understand why it's important to do that rather than just making bald-faced assertions and throwing naked statistics out?

Reason for omissions

Bozo timing of Chaqa vote
Durga ditto
EMC ditto
Summit ditto
TrPrado ditto
Worcej Self Vote
Hamilton Chaqa and ghug's votes D2

rdr/Bob D1&D3 voting
rdr/Fox current vote status
Fox/seth ditto

damo that is just horrible. bussing IS a thing. and what is good about bozo's chaqa vote timing?

Obviously there is bussing. That is why Fox Seth and rdr haven't got a town pass.

I'm also taking tone/feel into account but just giving VCA reasons.

Clearly it's not infallible but it's my best guess and I'm not venturing outside those 5.

[rdrivera2005]

Thanks rdr!

Sorry, this was uncalled and unnecessary. I am having some RL problems but it doesn't give me the right to be rude. I honestly apologize. In fact you are probably the best town player in this game, considering Ghug catch.

okay i'm sorry i do not trust people who apologize for being rude because of RL problems. ghug did that and he was scum.

only scum feel bad about being rude checkmate

I don't know if this is a joke or not, but I am not engaging you anymore.

##vote BobMcBob

I think he and Bo being a wagon could be interesting. I would not mind voting Bozo too.

And I have serious doubts at Fox being scum at this point.

[damo666]

Pretty unfortunate our townclear is Damo and that he has no power left, so scum might let him live longer.

Thanks rdr!

Sorry, this was uncalled and unnecessary. I am having some RL problems but it doesn't give me the right to be rude. I honestly apologize. In fact you are probably the best town player in this game, considering Ghug catch.

No problems.