MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[worcej]

Food, really go back and re-read spirit.

Do you town him for anything other than being a fool at times?

[bozotheclown]

Brain was a goon…

Read the Tamperer closer.

Tamperer – Twice per game, at night, you may visit a player and place misleading evidence upon them. If they are investigated that night, this will have the following effects:

- The Cop will read the target as "Guilty" irrespective of the truth.

- The Vanilla Cop will read the target as "Not Vanilla" irrespective of the truth.

- The Bloodhound will read the target as “Bloody” irrespective of the truth.

- The Lie Detector will read any statement by the target as “False” irrespective of the truth.

In addition, if the target is daykilled on the immediately following day, they will reveal as a Mafia Goon instead of their actual alignment and role.

Ah damn okay.

Well I still think he was raging publicly at bozo N6

I don't know what you are talking about, but I was not paying attention to brainbomb's WIFOM.

[foodcoats]

BB tampered himself versus using the RB while spirit killed ND as they didn't want to aim at you and play "doctor chicken"

Okay but why does him being tamperer matter again?

Because he wanted to make us think he wasn't the PR to fuck with us.

It's the only fucking logical reason possible the scum killed ND over you.

I’m not sure what this has to do with the identity of the final scum

[SpiritoftheRadio]

Like how does being tamperer N3 link with scum realizing vecna is 3p

I don't know, but I don't think there is a world where BB loses his complete mind that Vecna was doing what he did if they didn't know for sure Vecna was 3p and they would get outted.

he lost his shit after vecna claimed dude, we all knew then

[worcej]

Spirit's game right now strikes me as the Sabi scum game.

Too towny to possibly ever be scum was the only reason people could bring up.

[worcej]

Okay but why does him being tamperer matter again?

Because he wanted to make us think he wasn't the PR to fuck with us.

It's the only fucking logical reason possible the scum killed ND over you.

I’m not sure what this has to do with the identity of the final scum

I DON'T SEE A WORLD WHERE BOZO WOULD APPROVE OF THE SHENANIGANS THAT HAS HAPPENED

[foodcoats]

Food, really go back and re-read spirit.

Do you town him for anything other than being a fool at times?

No, but do I town bozo for anything other than analysis? No. The reactions seem harder to fake so on balance it is bozo by POE.

Also there’s somewhere Vecna seems to be pecking bozo that made me think he visited bozo N1 and learned his ability… which actually could mean he learned he had a kill

[worcej]

Like how does being tamperer N3 link with scum realizing vecna is 3p

I don't know, but I don't think there is a world where BB loses his complete mind that Vecna was doing what he did if they didn't know for sure Vecna was 3p and they would get outted.

he lost his shit after vecna claimed dude, we all knew then

He actually didn't - he lost his shit many hours later.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

Because he wanted to make us think he wasn't the PR to fuck with us.

It's the only fucking logical reason possible the scum killed ND over you.

I’m not sure what this has to do with the identity of the final scum

I DON'T SEE A WORLD WHERE BOZO WOULD APPROVE OF THE SHENANIGANS THAT HAS HAPPENED

its reality my guy, our earth, no other. People are laughing at you in the god thread right now.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

or maybe their laughing at me, im just very out of it rn

[worcej]

Food, really go back and re-read spirit.

Do you town him for anything other than being a fool at times?

No, but do I town bozo for anything other than analysis? No. The reactions seem harder to fake so on balance it is bozo by POE.

Also there’s somewhere Vecna seems to be pecking bozo that made me think he visited bozo N1 and learned his ability… which actually could mean he learned he had a kill

I don't see anything like this on D2 from Vecna. Can you find it?

[worcej]

Don't get me wrong, I get the "he isn't being towny" argument because that's exactly why I was gun-ho at killing Will.

I just see far more dots/connections tying spirit to BB than I see bozo being tied to him.

[foodcoats]

Because he wanted to make us think he wasn't the PR to fuck with us.

It's the only fucking logical reason possible the scum killed ND over you.

I’m not sure what this has to do with the identity of the final scum

I DON'T SEE A WORLD WHERE BOZO WOULD APPROVE OF THE SHENANIGANS THAT HAS HAPPENED

Ah right.

But one of those shenanies is that they didnt kill Vecna and I am not convinced they knew Vecna was 3P. Again, how could they deduce Vecna was 3P, even if Vecna was RBd by RHK and for example they got the RB message? Jamie never confirmed that…

##CALL GM

if the town roleblocker roleblocked the witch who was redirecting an action… do both the witch and the PR being redirected get a “You were rbd” message?

[worcej]

I’m not sure what this has to do with the identity of the final scum

I DON'T SEE A WORLD WHERE BOZO WOULD APPROVE OF THE SHENANIGANS THAT HAS HAPPENED

its reality my guy, our earth, no other. People are laughing at you in the god thread right now.

Well maybe the ghost's should've listened to me earlier about BB and they might've been alive now to laugh at me publicly

[foodcoats]

I’m not sure what this has to do with the identity of the final scum

I DON'T SEE A WORLD WHERE BOZO WOULD APPROVE OF THE SHENANIGANS THAT HAS HAPPENED

Ah right.

But one of those shenanies is that they didnt kill Vecna and I am not convinced they knew Vecna was 3P. Again, how could they deduce Vecna was 3P, even if Vecna was RBd by RHK and for example they got the RB message? Jamie never confirmed that…

##CALL GM

if the town roleblocker roleblocked the witch who was redirecting an action… do both the witch and the PR being redirected get a “You were rbd” message?

Like in theory they could deduce from rhk’s eod msg maybe that they got blocked via a vecna redirect? But then N4 do they kill Vecna or the town roleblocker? It’s not so obvious a choice.

[worcej]

I DON'T SEE A WORLD WHERE BOZO WOULD APPROVE OF THE SHENANIGANS THAT HAS HAPPENED

Ah right.

But one of those shenanies is that they didnt kill Vecna and I am not convinced they knew Vecna was 3P. Again, how could they deduce Vecna was 3P, even if Vecna was RBd by RHK and for example they got the RB message? Jamie never confirmed that…

##CALL GM

if the town roleblocker roleblocked the witch who was redirecting an action… do both the witch and the PR being redirected get a “You were rbd” message?

Like in theory they could deduce from rhk’s eod msg maybe that they got blocked via a vecna redirect? But then N4 do they kill Vecna or the town roleblocker? It’s not so obvious a choice.

It was the ghug kill and Vecna's own opinion that scum were choosing to not kill you to spite him that leads me to believe he truly believed that was the case.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

I don't know, but I don't think there is a world where BB loses his complete mind that Vecna was doing what he did if they didn't know for sure Vecna was 3p and they would get outted.

he lost his shit after vecna claimed dude, we all knew then

He actually didn't - he lost his shit many hours later.

BB's meltdown happened over a while, he rage voted vecna like 4 minutes after his claim, it was just not declared a meltdown by ND until 4 hours later

I can assure you if there is a witch he would know everyones allignment by now.

I can confidently say this, because i am in fact a witch, and I know everyones allignment and role.

Mafia has also known my identity since N3, and theyve known theyre dealing with a witch since then as well. Theyre trying to make town do their dirty work, or theyre trying to make me their puppet because they realize I need them to kill the last town PR.

Allowing either of that to happen goes directly against my wincon.

Im not really the kingmaking type either, but I realize that my path to victory is very unlikelym, but there is still a small chance if I try to puppeteer things myself.

Assuming competent scum play, they will never kill the town PR before me, so I need to attempt to direct things in a way that still gives every party a shot to win.

Like Ghug said, the drudgeries of 3 party diplomacy.

Brain is melting down. Simple as that. Guy didn't think I would piece it together but I did and it's gg for you bb.

[foodcoats]

So one of your shenanigans was the vecna thing and I think that’s dubious

The other is they didn’t immediately rb+kill me… and I mean one reason might very well be that I wasn’t the biggest threat. *Sad But True by Metallica plays*

[SpiritoftheRadio]

So one of your shenanigans was the vecna thing and I think that’s dubious

The other is they didn’t immediately rb+kill me… and I mean one reason might very well be that I wasn’t the biggest threat. *Sad But True by Metallica plays*

they were dumb food, you rb and kill a doc the second you can, they had the chance after all other PR's and 3p was dead and they killed ND. Bad decisions. I realized you were a PR right when I stopped pushing you as scum (and before you tied the vote that day where I briefly went back to scum reading you in a blind rage). I would have pushed for your kill then if I was scum, pal <3

I anchor this as true because I sent jamie a message saying it to the god thread, my status as a chad will be confirmed at games end

[SpiritoftheRadio]

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