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[sweetandcool]

I think it is unlikely sweetandcool would have convinced you he is town if your were town.

You miss the other obvious conclusion which is that I am Town and Bunny is lying.

If you are town, I think BunnyGo giving a fake tracker report as a reaction test would be more likely than going for a mis-kill. You jumping right to him being mafia seems more like a scum indicative reaction.

A reaction test? In this setup where y'all are going to lock in your official rosters? And he just leaves the thread and lets that happen?

Yeah right.

[bozotheclown]

RB vote:

bozo: BunnyGo/ghug
Fluminator: ghug/damo
ghug: Fluminator/worcej

[sweetandcool]

I'd probably RB ghug and damo.

I think Sweet was buddying colby so colby leans town more now, even after that wild slip.

Ghug is pretty obviously mafia fmpov at this point, although a big part is just knowing who he is personally. I understand it's not as clear to other people.

Damo biffed it on two other PR actions so I just want to confirm he's not ghug's partner.

This seems an obvious distraction from the DK of scum damo. That explains the timing and why he didn't immediately (or earlier on at least) lead with the lie.

Conveniently forgets he was gung ho to flip damo. Then if damo ever flips he also gets credit for wanting his head.

[sweetandcool]

My money is still on Flum/worcej, so I guess I'll vote to RB there.

I think sweet was legitimately frustrated at Glitter so she's probably town.
I agree with Flum that the Colby defense is unlikely to be scum/scum.
Sweet has appeared very bothered by my assertion that he had the opportunity to vote Flum and didn't yesterday, but he made several posts after I asked him to vote Flum, so while I believe the out of game excuse insofar as it caused him to not be around as long, I don't buy that it makes his not voting for Flum less problematic.

IDK why you expect me to knee jerk vote for my third scumread over my top two. I was coming to the realization the other two weren't going to fly and that I should vote Flum when IRL screwed me over.

It still hurts to see obvious scum damo getting free yet another day.

[bozotheclown]

If we can put town players in the PR slots and have the doctor actually protect the watcher, that would be helpful.

I think we should have a separate vote ranking the remaining players from town to mafia.

Please provide the following:

town to mafia ranking:
bozo:
1. bozo
2. GlitterBomb
3. Col7by
4. worcej
5. damo
6. Fluminator
7. BunnyGo
8. ghug
9. sweetandcool

So it's just me and Bunny because you think we're the scum? Ok. Why are we the scum?

You still haven't told me why you townread worcej.

I gave some reasons N2, but "vote for Kakarroto with questionable reason" has been updated to possibly bussing Kakarroto. I also find you interaction with sweetandcool suspicious.

There are 5 players I suspect more.

[Fluminator]

I'd probably RB ghug and damo.

I think Sweet was buddying colby so colby leans town more now, even after that wild slip.

Ghug is pretty obviously mafia fmpov at this point, although a big part is just knowing who he is personally. I understand it's not as clear to other people.

Damo biffed it on two other PR actions so I just want to confirm he's not ghug's partner.

How did I go from not lockacum yet (earlier today) to obviously mafia from your POV?

Because you're not even trying anymore.

[sweetandcool]

Anyways I came back because I thought of an easy argument for why I am obviously not scum. Give me one moment.

[ghug]

I'd probably RB ghug and damo.

I think Sweet was buddying colby so colby leans town more now, even after that wild slip.

Ghug is pretty obviously mafia fmpov at this point, although a big part is just knowing who he is personally. I understand it's not as clear to other people.

Damo biffed it on two other PR actions so I just want to confirm he's not ghug's partner.

How did I go from not lockacum yet (earlier today) to obviously mafia from your POV?

Because you're not even trying anymore.

I'm not trying anymore?

[sweetandcool]

Suppose sweetandcool is Mafia.

He has two teammates. (Let's forget that the scumteam is damo, Glitterbomb, Bunny, these are just two generic teammates)

sweetandcool or one of his teammates must perform the NK.

Who do they choose?

They know damo is doctor, Bunny is possibly vigilante, and Town Ham is watcher.

They intend to NK Ham so they don't have to worry about being watched.

If either damo or Bunny (or both) is scum, they have extra info.

It's obvious how scum damo or scum Bunny helps them choose, but suppose they are both Town. For some reason Mafia has chosen Ham as the NK despite the risk of a doc save.

So let's consider Bunny, they need to consider, if Bunny is tracker who would ge track?

Would Bunny track a Townread, sweetandcool? Would Mafia choose sweetandcool over another teammate? I think that factor would mostly depend on how exposed each teammate was.

So either the scumteam decided sweetandcool wouldn't be tracked because he is a Townread of Bunny's or that sweetandcool was the most exposed and consequently the most disposable if caught.
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So which is more likely? That Bunny is lying or that Mafia team sent sweetandcool to perform the NK, and Bunny happened to track him.

Please think hard about this question, because the answer should be fairly obvious.

[damo666]

I think the final 2 are ghug and flum

Of my other unknowns I'm strong town on worcej and warming towards town on Col7 and townside of null for glitter and bozo.

I defintely won't be voting a PR for ghug flum or bozo.

Obviously I'm assuming Bunny town and sweet scum.

[sweetandcool]

How did I go from not lockacum yet (earlier today) to obviously mafia from your POV?

Because you're not even trying anymore.

I'm not trying anymore?

I do think it is weird that you'd immediately be in line with all of this crud. How could Bunny lying not cross your mind? How could you be so gung-ho for something that should be turning your world upside down?

[sweetandcool]

I think the final 2 are ghug and flum

Of my other unknowns I'm strong town on worcej and warming towards town on Col7 and townside of null for glitter and bozo.

I defintely won't be voting a PR for ghug flum or bozo.

Obviously I'm assuming Bunny town and sweet scum.

A very convenient assumption.

[bozotheclown]

I think the final 2 are ghug and flum

Of my other unknowns I'm strong town on worcej and warming towards town on Col7 and townside of null for glitter and bozo.

I defintely won't be voting a PR for ghug flum or bozo.

Obviously I'm assuming Bunny town and sweet scum.

Can you please put this information into the RB vote and ranking?

[ghug]

Because you're not even trying anymore.

I'm not trying anymore?

I do think it is weird that you'd immediately be in line with all of this crud. How could Bunny lying not cross your mind? How could you be so gung-ho for something that should be turning your world upside down?

There are four options:
You're scum and Bunny's town. This is the most straightforward and usually how I take claimed info.
You're both scum. This is possible, but we might as well kill you first.
You're town and Bunny's scum. I don't see why Bunny would do this, but if he has, we just have to kill you and make sure his team doesn't get the flex, and then we can kill him tomorrow.
You're both town. This also feels unlikely, but Bunny will tell us before we kill you, so there's no reason to worry about it now in any case.

This doesn't really turn my world upside down. It was a plausible outcome for Bunny to be town. I had already identified a possible connection between you and Flum, and one between you and Kak, so you as scum fit nicely into my greater view of the world. I was townreading you, but you weren't locked in my mind.

[bozotheclown]

Suppose sweetandcool is Mafia.

He has two teammates. (Let's forget that the scumteam is damo, Glitterbomb, Bunny, these are just two generic teammates)

sweetandcool or one of his teammates must perform the NK.

Who do they choose?

They know damo is doctor, Bunny is possibly vigilante, and Town Ham is watcher.

They intend to NK Ham so they don't have to worry about being watched.

If either damo or Bunny (or both) is scum, they have extra info.

It's obvious how scum damo or scum Bunny helps them choose, but suppose they are both Town. For some reason Mafia has chosen Ham as the NK despite the risk of a doc save.

So let's consider Bunny, they need to consider, if Bunny is tracker who would ge track?

Would Bunny track a Townread, sweetandcool? Would Mafia choose sweetandcool over another teammate? I think that factor would mostly depend on how exposed each teammate was.

So either the scumteam decided sweetandcool wouldn't be tracked because he is a Townread of Bunny's or that sweetandcool was the most exposed and consequently the most disposable if caught.
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So which is more likely? That Bunny is lying or that Mafia team sent sweetandcool to perform the NK, and Bunny happened to track him.

Please think hard about this question, because the answer should be fairly obvious.

BunnyGo fake claiming does not make you town, though.

[damo666]

I think the final 2 are ghug and flum

Of my other unknowns I'm strong town on worcej and warming towards town on Col7 and townside of null for glitter and bozo.

I defintely won't be voting a PR for ghug flum or bozo.

Obviously I'm assuming Bunny town and sweet scum.

Can you please put this information into the RB vote and ranking?

I will, I'm pondering. Slightly worried scumBunny is throwing scumSweet under the bus so maybe RBing Bunny right.

[damo666]

I'm not trying anymore?

I do think it is weird that you'd immediately be in line with all of this crud. How could Bunny lying not cross your mind? How could you be so gung-ho for something that should be turning your world upside down?

There are four options:
You're scum and Bunny's town. This is the most straightforward and usually how I take claimed info.
You're both scum. This is possible, but we might as well kill you first.
You're town and Bunny's scum. I don't see why Bunny would do this, but if he has, we just have to kill you and make sure his team doesn't get the flex, and then we can kill him tomorrow.
You're both town. This also feels unlikely, but Bunny will tell us before we kill you, so there's no reason to worry about it now in any case.

This doesn't really turn my world upside down. It was a plausible outcome for Bunny to be town. I had already identified a possible connection between you and Flum, and one between you and Kak, so you as scum fit nicely into my greater view of the world. I was townreading you, but you weren't locked in my mind.

Now I'm back to townleaning ghug. Aaaarrggh!

[damo666]

RB vote:

bozo: BunnyGo/ghug
Fluminator: ghug/damo
ghug: Fluminator/worcej

Bunny/Flum with watcher watching ghug

I want worcej myself and glitter as the 3 PRs

[damo666]

Annoying worcej cannot be Flex

[worcej]

I tried to outguess scum and failed.

Ham was the obvious target so therefore the obvious save so therefore becomes a bad target so hence I saved elsewhere. It's all WIFOMy double and triple bluffs. I gambled and got it wrong. Scum outguessed me rather than vice versa and having got their NK through start their planned attack on me to get me MKd. Put me I/R if you like but I'm town.

Scum are glitterbomb Col7b plus a hidden (Bunny maybe?)

I have to ask why would you think to get cute versus protecting Ham?