M80 Game Thread

[President Eden]

My flight to aforementioned shitty city just got delayed an hour and I'm blaming you.

this post has "manager at a Staples" energy

[Dousing]

Okay this post is going to be *incredibly* hypocritical.

I'm going to be slandering Xcution by pointing out trends that are highly suspicious that I have done as well.

I don't care. two wrongs don't make a right and my actions do not vindicate Xcution's.

Furthermore, X is a FAR more advanced player than me. He's already admitted to such *twice* by saying the following:

I've been playing this game for over ten years...

and

My dude, I am a ten year plus vet, I've done and seen it all.

We should treat him as such


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QUICK DISCLAIMER: I've included a lot of quotes in this post DO. NOT. READ. ALL. OF. IT. (don't waste your time).

In any normal circumstance I would have just snipped out 90% of this message and kept my post as brief as possible. However, I know that my reputation isn't great. Therefore, I opted to shore up my arguments with as much evidence as possible.

Basically, I just wanted to have a paper trail for y'all to fact check me.
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Anyway ATTENTION SWASHBUCKLERS! Stop Swashing. Stop Bucking. I have something to say!

The following post from Sweetandcool (god bless him) has brought fellow crewmate Xcution to my attention for the first time this game:

I already made a case on Xcution during D1, and they haven't posted much since. Consequently, I still strongly scumread them.

Sweet has a good deal to say about the topic but I'll highlight the main points as a quick TL;DR:

1. [Xcution] comes in asking questions, but they weren't really substantial at all.

2. They seemed to zero in on Jamiet and I... [because] They are well aware that the intensive argument that we got into tends to be read as T v T. A perfect way to blend in as Mafia.

3. They were literally ignoring any responses I gave them, which comes across as them wanting to continue the argument to create more content.

Sweet gave Xcution two things going in his favor saying the following:

1. They mentioned not being able to be very active until the weekend. So maybe they will come out and start being productive for town.
2. They did make one post that seemed like actual town solving, at the beginning of N1.

(I assume the post he is referring to is the readslist X made below)
viewtopic.php?p=342690#p342690

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This interested me for two reasons.

1. I trust Sweet a lot more than X, I think he has been acting reliably as a townie.

2. I (prior to this post) couldn't remember what X has even done beyond beef with sweet.

(Besides, it doesn't *really* matter where the argument came from because the argument itself is very strong imo.)
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So let's see what X has done in D1?

They threw a hefty amount of shade at Jamie,
asked some open ended questions,
argued with Sweet,
asked some open ended questions,
argued with Sweet,
asked some open ended questions,

...

...

Yeah it's a lot of hating new people + open ended questions (is Xcution Tucker Carilson's alt acc?)

I challenge y'all. Read what X has said on D1 here: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... er=Xcution

BUT every time X makes an open ended question, make a stupidly high pitched rising inflection. You'll begin to realize that every post of his has a wall of fluff ending with an opened ended question. (You'll make an ass out of yourself in the process but we'll catch scum so it's worth it in the end).

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Admittedly X said *some* interesting things D1.

1. He townread Brain

I have Brain as a slight town lean, but not because of his vanilla claim (which I didn't really register), but I feel like I've been nodding my head along to a decent chunk of his post.

Then again it sounds more like he just "likes the way the guy talks" more than anything.

2. He is "a little worried" about ghug and Haze

Yeah I'm a little worried about my pals ghug and Haze. I'm not big on meta, but in Champs ghug was a man of few words, but I felt a hard hitting and analytical logic to his posts. Haze was a bit everywhere with their posts and was a leading poster, but someone that had a big presence. Both these things are missing from this game. It's only my second game with them so I do take this with a grain of salt, but it's something to start on. I guess considering ghug was the rep for Champs here, I was expecting a bit more on his home site. Haze I feel has kind of been in the background. But that could just be because they're on a new site (though this is a new site for me and I am trying to make some waves). So I'm definitely hoping for a bit more from their slots, but I'm not ready to condemn them quite yet, but I am watchful.

(keep a pin on the Haze//X connection; it'll come in handy soon)


3. HE DIDN'T VOTE FOR ANYONE AT EOD!!!! Oh sorry I forgot we were summarizing productive things that X was doing (silly me)

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There are two things that are MOST memorable about D1.

1. His infamous beef with Sweet

(I don't think I have to go over this one; y'all are familiar with this already.)



2. His less memorable beef with Jamie.

It's pretty well summarized with this passage

Jamie, I've literally been commenting on your slot this entire game, and you finally chose to engage me halfway through D1.

That's a strong accusation right there (especially by D1 standards) let's see what X has said to Jamie that could provide a foundation for this claim?

##Vote Ghug because town Ghug always votes me D1 and I'm offended he voted someone else.

Do you actually think that Bona is seriously wolf reading you? I felt like they called your entrance scummy as a joke and you're trying to triple down on them. If you want to pressure them, why make a throwaway vote on ghug?

Ehh not to important. Let's carry on. (Opened ended question)

Scum chat will be happy to know that I've successfully distanced from Sweet without making us look like partners.

Is this a scumclaim?

Is this a serious question?

Ditto (open ended question)

[text]

You appear to be very fixated on people's perceptions of you.

I think this leads credence to Sweet playing a nervous game. I don't like that they tried to say they play nervous as either alignment and that would Sweet would act a certain way, when this is only their second game? I just don't understand how you can harp on your 'newness' but then try to make claims such as these.

Seems more like an anti-sweet thing than an anti-Jamie thing...

President Eden's mischaracterisation of Brainbomb "shitting on" other people is quite odd.

He seems off this game.

I'm going to call this post wolfy because you already tried to explain how you saying 'someone is off' was meant as a joke, but now I feel like you're purposely trying to make sure everyone thinks you were joking. I'm not sure what your motivation with these type of posts are.

AHA! a real honest to goodness anti-Jamie post! Now lets see what other evidence we can bring up to help out Mr. Xcution's case!

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Huh, there's nothing else here actually. It seems like is whole "i'm trying to get to the bottom of things and asking questions is just how I do it" line is not really holding up here

Jamie summarized what I just said in this D1 post here as well
viewtopic.php?p=342266#p342266

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Xcution caps off his string of equivocation with a vote on S&C only to unvote and provide us with literally nothing.
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Onto N1 (f*ck we're only on N1)

X's contribution's N1 were very minimal (that's alright). HOWEVER, 8/16 of all his posts during that phase were replies to/were about Haze with a Z. (and 12/16 of his posts involved either Bunny or Haze)

This is even more interesting when you consider the following about the posts that didn't involve Haze:

- The first two posts were random posts about the mechanics of the night phase,
- One post was a reply to Worcej about the mechanics of the night phase
- One post was an open ended question about the Bozo wagon


All the actual thinking done by X was in tandem with Haze or Bunny
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D2 isn't much better

He only makes six posts:

2 are vote posts

##vore Foxcastle

I voted Fox already. Narrator: He didn't and Fox will never be the same after what Xcution did to him as a result

##Vote Foxcastle

2 are about the Kak three bullets question. He says:

Sweet, Jamie, and Kak. Could maybe shoot Haze and ghug as well. My Champ boys feel off. Wouldn't shoot Brain or Damo.

and

Maybe Sweet gets taken off the list. But I don't know about him saying he's willing to be more of a listener this day instead of a talker. I'm not sure how to take this turn of face right off the get go.

One he says this:

Oh yeah, Dousing' writing a post about Fox that seemed favorable to Fox right before worcej revealed bumps him up.

Bandwagoning imo.

P.S. I'd disagree with that interpretation but y'all can be the judges of that

Finally he says this:

Foxcastle is clearly caught scum at this point guys... he's just dropped off because he doesn't want to finger any more of his teammates.

I didn't know you could talk so dirty.

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NOW, Can anyone actually point to something X has done for the town that has been productive?

Personally, I think Sweet is right; X is a dark horse candidate for maf

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Apologies about the spam (I kept this contained in one post to try and limit the messiness of it) but I really wanted to be through here :)

Also once a tunneler always a tunneler

[President Eden]

alright i'm shelving this review of EOD1 (which I think doesn't reflect well on Dousing) until i sample Dousing's crock pot cooking over here

[President Eden]

i really wanted to be able to just post a bus emoji, but

Okay this post is going to be *incredibly* hypocritical.

I'm going to be slandering Xcution by pointing out trends that are highly suspicious that I have done as well.

I don't care. two wrongs don't make a right and my actions do not vindicate Xcution's.

i loved this intro

[Dousing]

alright i'm shelving this review of EOD1 (which I think doesn't reflect well on Dousing) until i sample Dousing's crock pot cooking over here

You got 16 hours until EoN take your time

[President Eden]

yea sure we can give it back to X tomorrow

[President Eden]

alright i'm shelving this review of EOD1 (which I think doesn't reflect well on Dousing) until i sample Dousing's crock pot cooking over here

You got 16 hours until EoN take your time

i already finished, quotes and all

the case for X is solid and mostly i now feel bad i glossed over sweet arguing it earlier

idk if it really moves the needle on my opinion on you, i'll have to mull it over, but we can move you a bit back in the execution line at least

[ghug]

Dousing you need to do less wallposting and more interacting. Your case is fine but it's a lot of work put into not putting yourself out there.

[Dousing]

alright i'm shelving this review of EOD1 (which I think doesn't reflect well on Dousing) until i sample Dousing's crock pot cooking over here

You got 16 hours until EoN take your time

i already finished, quotes and all

the case for X is solid and mostly i now feel bad i glossed over sweet arguing it earlier

idk if it really moves the needle on my opinion on you, i'll have to mull it over, but we can move you a bit back in the execution line at least

FYI, I wrote this to bring attention to Xcution not to clear my name

[Dousing]

Dousing you need to do less wallposting and more interacting. Your case is fine but it's a lot of work put into not putting yourself out there.

Yeah that's a big flaw of mine.

tbh this whole X wallpost was the first post of mine that really felt like an original idea/something worth putting time into.

[President Eden]

You got 16 hours until EoN take your time

i already finished, quotes and all

the case for X is solid and mostly i now feel bad i glossed over sweet arguing it earlier

idk if it really moves the needle on my opinion on you, i'll have to mull it over, but we can move you a bit back in the execution line at least

FYI, I wrote this to bring attention to Xcution not to clear my name

right

it's a solid post in that regard

i think i wanna see what X has to say

[sweetandcool]

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Bless you Dousing, for doing the legwork I didn't want to do. Yes, you said about X what I was trying to point out to everybody, that their work didn't actually seem substantial.

I was just trusting that people would actually look at X and see what I was seeing. I guess the lesson here is that I need to do more wallposts when I have a suspect.

Thank you for taking the time to work on it.

[Dousing]

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Bless you Dousing, for doing the legwork I didn't want to do. Yes, you said about X what I was trying to point out to everybody, that their work didn't actually seem substantial.

I was just trusting that people would actually look at X and see what I was seeing. I guess the lesson here is that I need to do more wallposts when I have a suspect.

Thank you for taking the time to work on it.

Ain’t it great when I don’t decide to torpedo you because of a cop scan?

[Dousing]

i already finished, quotes and all

the case for X is solid and mostly i now feel bad i glossed over sweet arguing it earlier

idk if it really moves the needle on my opinion on you, i'll have to mull it over, but we can move you a bit back in the execution line at least

FYI, I wrote this to bring attention to Xcution not to clear my name

right

it's a solid post in that regard

i think i wanna see what X has to say

Yeah that makes sense

[sweetandcool]

alright i'm shelving this review of EOD1 (which I think doesn't reflect well on Dousing) until i sample Dousing's crock pot cooking over here

You got 16 hours until EoN take your time

i already finished, quotes and all

the case for X is solid and mostly i now feel bad i glossed over sweet arguing it earlier

idk if it really moves the needle on my opinion on you, i'll have to mull it over, but we can move you a bit back in the execution line at least

Don't gloss me :D

But yeah, I know the D1 argument was probably looking silly, but I've been posting on X and pointing to them as Mafia for a reason. Dousing has just spelled it out extra slowly so that the people in the back could really get it.

[damo666]

You don't know what "y'all" means?

I was told it was written "yal'l" ...

I write ya'll rather than y'all because I'm a degenerate. Ya'll sounds more like what I say out loud, y'all does not, and it hurts my eyes.

Why don't y'all just say ye.

[ghug]

I was told it was written "yal'l" ...

I write ya'll rather than y'all because I'm a degenerate. Ya'll sounds more like what I say out loud, y'all does not, and it hurts my eyes.

Why don't y'all just say ye.

Holy shit damo are you a "ye"er?

[sweetandcool]

ghug:

I went through all of their posts and don't have much to particularly point to. They've been generally involved, flitting here and there. They don't make big posts, but they are certainly analyzing and have projected themselves as one of the town leaders.

I note that they've said a lot of nice things about me, but somehow it doesn't feel like pocketing.

But the biggest thing that makes me Townread them is:

This

and

This

The fact that they wanted me to investigate Foxcastle seems pretty town since there is no reason for Mafia to put me on the right track for free.
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VERDICT: Town/townlean, but since I actually can't read them there's a chance they are deep scum.

[sweetandcool]

Jamiet:

Jamiet has been Jamiet this game. Consequently, the general consensus seems to be to read him as town. Since I can't read him and his actions seem consistent with town, we'll call him town.

VERDICT:

Town (I did read through all of his posts, even if this looks low effort, it is not).

[sweetandcool]

Lastly, brainbomb:

I'm not going to lie, I am feeling really intimidated by the prospect of going through 9000 words for just D1.

And since it is late, I'm not going to do it :D

My gut tells me town, certainly brainbomb has been working quite a bit at solving. But since I'm not putting in the effort, I'm not going to give them a verdict.

Sorry brainbomb! I think you are town, but I'm not 100% confident.