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[sweetandcool]

Okay yeah, so Glitterbomb wrote a reads list.

Then formed a random team, presumably based off that list, with no regard to how those players could fit together.

I asked for an explanation of how that could be the team. My request for a paragraph (rather than a terse 4-10 words), apparently intimidated her into ignoring me and she felt like her reads list satisfied my question, which it absolutely did not.

On one hand, new player might not think that teams making sense is important, and just thinks their top 4 most individually scummy players must be the team.

On the other hand, Mafia Glitterbomb would come up with scumreads and then mash them together into an ignorant team, like a toddler using one of those shape matching boxes where they try fitting the triangle block through the circle hole.

The former scenario certainly isn't impossible, but all the evidence leads me to favour the latter scenario.

If damo is Mafia, which he is, and Colby is Town, which he is, then the PoE is: Bunny, ghug, Bozo, worcej, Flum, Glitterbomb.

I am not 100% certain but I think it very likely Bunny and even ghug are Town.

That leaves Bozo, worcej, Flum, Glitterbomb.

Bozo is kind of midline, I think he is Town based on some of his reads.
Worcej is null.
Flum has seemed quite a bit scummy. He tends to troll and seem scummy generally in every game, so he is hard for me to assess, but I don't get a feeling of solving from him.
Glitterbomb, particularly when compared to these other suspects, just seems to have to be scum here. She seems to be fabricating scumreads and throwing them into a scumteam willy nilly.

So assuming a scumteam of damo, Flum, Glitter bomb, my homework is to see if they make sense as a team.

Goodnight y'all!

[sweetandcool]

Oh dear, I have been a bit stupid.

Bunny alluded to this point when railing at damo, but I think it's worth considering all the nasty things Mafia could have done while in PR positions. I think in the end this only applies to damo, since I think our other PRs are either flipped our obvtown or Bozo. But it's definitely worth a critical examination of the type of plays Mafia could have gone for, particularly when damo got the gun.

Okay now really goodnight.

[damo666]

@ghug Kak strongly suggested Bozo and Flum scum and Bunny and me town. How many do you reckon he was telling the truth about?

Expected value is 2 but I could easily seeing it be one or three.

Flum really feels in my bones like a bus. I'm doubting that both you and Bunny are town, which is the big change in my opinion since the flip.

2 would mean exactly 2 scum in F Bo Bu or they are all town.

1 right implies Bunny is scum.

3 right would imply all 3 are scum or one of BozoFlum is

[damo666]

@ghug Kak strongly suggested Bozo and Flum scum and Bunny and me town. How many do you reckon he was telling the truth about?

Expected value is 2 but I could easily seeing it be one or three.

Flum really feels in my bones like a bus. I'm doubting that both you and Bunny are town, which is the big change in my opinion since the flip.

2 would mean exactly 2 scum in F Bo Bu or they are all town.

1 right implies Bunny is scum.

3 right would imply all 3 are scum or one of BozoFlum is

Applying the following [arbitrary] probabilities to Pr(n right) given I know Pr(0)=0

Pr(1) 0.2
Pr(2) 0.5
Pr(3) 0.2
Pr(4) 0.1

Scum chances are

Bozo 60% Flum 60% Bunny 40%

Given random is 33% I feel I need to pick one of these as I/R.

[GlitterBomb]

You realize you are quoting damo, the guy you lumped into the team before Kak flipped. What happened to that?

Yes. I understand that. I also said I didn’t feel like I had a good enough read on Kak because of how little he posted. Damo is all over the place as a player in my limited experience with him. And I don’t think his actions necessarily automatically make him scum. I think they make him an over-analyzer.

And to your earlier point which I’m not finding about me changing my mind in bunny…. People are changing their minds all the time. I don’t believe I ever said I thought he was town. I did however vote for him in a PR to see what reactions that generated.

That's what I was talking about. Voting them into PR indicates quite a bit of trust.

Changing your mind is fine. It's important to explain why you changed your mind. It doesn't need to be an essay, but it needs to be something.

E.g. Wow I thought Bunny was scum because he's useless and confusing with all his questions, but then we put him into a PR slot and he shot Mafia. Wow, I must have been wrong about him, he is a Townread now.

Rather than:

Glitterbomb: Bunny is scum and these are his scummates.
sweetandcool: Wow that is a wild group, why do you think that?
Glitterbomb:...................
Glitterbomb: Bunny is Town.
sweetandcool: ??????

When did I say I though Bunny was town???

[GlitterBomb]

Okay yeah, so Glitterbomb wrote a reads list.

Then formed a random team, presumably based off that list, with no regard to how those players could fit together.

I asked for an explanation of how that could be the team. My request for a paragraph (rather than a terse 4-10 words), apparently intimidated her into ignoring me and she felt like her reads list satisfied my question, which it absolutely did not.

On one hand, new player might not think that teams making sense is important, and just thinks their top 4 most individually scummy players must be the team.

On the other hand, Mafia Glitterbomb would come up with scumreads and then mash them together into an ignorant team, like a toddler using one of those shape matching boxes where they try fitting the triangle block through the circle hole.

The former scenario certainly isn't impossible, but all the evidence leads me to favour the latter scenario.

If damo is Mafia, which he is, and Colby is Town, which he is, then the PoE is: Bunny, ghug, Bozo, worcej, Flum, Glitterbomb.

I am not 100% certain but I think it very likely Bunny and even ghug are Town.

That leaves Bozo, worcej, Flum, Glitterbomb.

Bozo is kind of midline, I think he is Town based on some of his reads.
Worcej is null.
Flum has seemed quite a bit scummy. He tends to troll and seem scummy generally in every game, so he is hard for me to assess, but I don't get a feeling of solving from him.
Glitterbomb, particularly when compared to these other suspects, just seems to have to be scum here. She seems to be fabricating scumreads and throwing them into a scumteam willy nilly.

So assuming a scumteam of damo, Flum, Glitter bomb, my homework is to see if they make sense as a team.

Goodnight y'all!

That’s your (wrong) opinion. My reads list absolutely met your demand. And as far as how the teammates “fit together” - I don’t know that I need to know that necessarily. With four mafia and our only confirmed mafia being pretty inactive, it’s hard to say how they may or may not have worked together. So again, all speculative. And you say that hard defending of other players doesn’t mean anything - but what can you point to that absolutely makes col7by and bunny innocent? You keep saying I read him as town and changed my mind - where did I ever say that? And you also say that excessive talking/posting is NAI…. Sure, but it also can be. I feel like there is a LOT to be said for distraction, engaging and arguing to take away from the overall mission…. And that has been happening a lot this game. So because I don’t have it all figured out yet and the list of players don’t “go together” in your book, I’m scum? Yeah, totally logical.

[GlitterBomb]

Post your notes!

I translated most of them (or at least the condensed highlights) into my massive lists from a few nights ago. I still stand firm on Sweet and Bunny. Sweet has been adamant about defending Bunny and Col7by.

Just post them raw right now. It'd be very helpful to see your thought processes.

Anyone know how to successfully upload pictures to here? I thought I was just tired last night but it’s still not working for me this morning…. I’ve tried just one attachment. I’ve tried taking a pic thru webdip. Nothing is working…

[damo666]

I translated most of them (or at least the condensed highlights) into my massive lists from a few nights ago. I still stand firm on Sweet and Bunny. Sweet has been adamant about defending Bunny and Col7by.

Just post them raw right now. It'd be very helpful to see your thought processes.

Anyone know how to successfully upload pictures to here? I thought I was just tired last night but it’s still not working for me this morning…. I’ve tried just one attachment. I’ve tried taking a pic thru webdip. Nothing is working…

Sry no clue

[GlitterBomb]

Just post them raw right now. It'd be very helpful to see your thought processes.

Anyone know how to successfully upload pictures to here? I thought I was just tired last night but it’s still not working for me this morning…. I’ve tried just one attachment. I’ve tried taking a pic thru webdip. Nothing is working…

Sry no clue

Ok! Trying this…

Here’s a link to a Google doc with the pics of all of my notes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zkRgAZW-hIWyxJHNr4rTSjYJ9VI3KgCBPGFKstO7RY/edit

Hoping this works!

[damo666]

Anyone know how to successfully upload pictures to here? I thought I was just tired last night but it’s still not working for me this morning…. I’ve tried just one attachment. I’ve tried taking a pic thru webdip. Nothing is working…

Sry no clue

Ok! Trying this…

Here’s a link to a Google doc with the pics of all of my notes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zkRgAZW-hIWyxJHNr4rTSjYJ9VI3KgCBPGFKstO7RY/edit

Hoping this works!

nice rug!

[GlitterBomb]

Sry no clue

Ok! Trying this…

Here’s a link to a Google doc with the pics of all of my notes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zkRgAZW-hIWyxJHNr4rTSjYJ9VI3KgCBPGFKstO7RY/edit

Hoping this works!

nice rug!

Brain is gonna hate me for admitting this to his buds, but it’s actually our comforter! He lets me get away with having a fuzzy comforter and I love him for it!

[damo666]

Ok! Trying this…

Here’s a link to a Google doc with the pics of all of my notes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zkRgAZW-hIWyxJHNr4rTSjYJ9VI3KgCBPGFKstO7RY/edit

Hoping this works!

nice rug!

Brain is gonna hate me for admitting this to his buds, but it’s actually our comforter! He lets me get away with having a fuzzy comforter and I love him for it!

[brainbomb]

Gm note
To be clear I do not sleep with any blankets on me. Unless it is winter. So I allow it.

Vote tally
Nothing to report as of yet

Restrictions!
worcej may not be voted QB this phase
bozotheclown may not be voted D/ST this phase
Col7by and damo666 may never be kicker again
Damo may not be voted as flex this phase

Please make careful note of these restrictions and avoid submitting rosters that will be rejected due to these existing restrictions

[Fluminator]

Gm note
To be clear I do not sleep with any blankets on me. Unless it is winter. So I allow it.

Vote tally
Nothing to report as of yet

Restrictions!
worcej may not be voted QB this phase
bozotheclown may not be voted D/ST this phase
Col7by and damo666 may never be kicker again
Damo may not be voted as flex this phase

Please make careful note of these restrictions and avoid submitting rosters that will be rejected due to these existing restrictions

Worcej and Bozo being blocked from PRs might actually be significant. Coming back to this later.

[Fluminator]

Anyone know how to successfully upload pictures to here? I thought I was just tired last night but it’s still not working for me this morning…. I’ve tried just one attachment. I’ve tried taking a pic thru webdip. Nothing is working…

Sry no clue

Ok! Trying this…

Here’s a link to a Google doc with the pics of all of my notes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zkRgAZW-hIWyxJHNr4rTSjYJ9VI3KgCBPGFKstO7RY/edit

Hoping this works!

This could be a ghug/glitter setup where ghug asked glitter to give her notes that she forged previously to make her look good. But glitter's delay in posting them makes me think that's not as likely.

Glitter is probably just town at this point, there's no shortage of scummy behavior elsewhere.

[Fluminator]

Fixed to make a less hideous colour than yellow

Day 1:Day2:Day3

Bona:
1. bona:bona
2. ghug:glitter
3. bunny:sweet
4. hamilton:bozo
5. tfb:ghug
6. glitterbomb:hamilton
7. rdr:damo
8. worcej:worcej
9. fluminator:col7by
10. will:will

Bozo:
QB Fluminator:ghug:HamBrian
RB1 BunnyGo:worcej:Glitter
RB2 Bonatogether:sweet:colby
WR1 Col7by:just:flum
WR2 rdrivera:glitter:sweet
TE worcej:Kak:worcej
FLEX ghug:damo:Bunny
D/ST bozo:bozo:damo
K Kakarroto:rivera:ghug
I/R TFB:bona:kak

Bunny:
Qb sweet:bozo:HamBrian
Rb 1 bunny:rivera:ghug
Rb2 bona:col7by:bozo
Wr1 HamB:flum:glitter
Wr2 Flum:Ham:sweet
Te worcej:sweet:worcej
Flex ghug:ghug:bunny
DST bozo:bunny:colby
K glitter:kak:flum
I/R kaka:worcej:kak

Col7by:
QB. Bunny:bunny:HamBrian
RB1. Will:bona:bozo
RB2. Flum:will:colby
WR1. TFB:worcej:worcej
WR2. Rdrivera:Ham:ghug
TE. Bozo:Kak:flum
Flex. Damo:damo:bunny
D/St. jaimie:ghug:sweet
K glitterbomb:flum:damo
I/R. Bona:sweet:kak

Damo:
QB Bozo:ghug:HamBrian
RB1 Bunny:worcej:ghug
RB2 Bona:sweet:colby
WR1 HamiltonBrian:rivera:kak
WR2 Haze:HamB:worcej
TE worcej:kak:flum
Flex ghug:damo:bunny
D/ST Flum:bunny:damo
K Will:col7by:bozo
I/R TheFlyingBoat:bona:sweet

Flum:
1 QB 1 Worcej:glitter:biunny
2 RB 1 Sweet:worcej:HamBrian
3 RB 2 Rdrivera:sweet:bozo
4 WR 1 Jamiet:rivera:worcej
5 WR 2 Bunny:bunny:ghug
6 TE Bona:col7by:colby
7 FLEX Ghug:damo:flum
8 D/ST Bozo:willl:damo
9 K Kak:bona:sweet
10 I/R The Flying Boat:Kak:kak

Ghug:
1 QB Bunny:ghug:HamBrian
2 RB 1 TFB:worcej:Glitter
3 RB 2 GlitterBean:sweet:Colby
4 WR 1 sweet:rivera:kak
5 WR 2 Hamilton:Hamilton:bozo
6 TE worcej:Kak:worcej
7 FLEX ghug:damo:bunny
8 D/ST bozo:bunny:sweet
9 K col7by:col7by:damo
10 I/R Kak:[color=#0080000]will[/color]:flum

Glitter:
QB. Bozo:glitter:glitter
RB1. Bunny:bozo:ghug
RB2. Jamie:bona:hambrian
WR1. Worcej:rivera:worcej
WR2. Rdrivera:hambrian:bozo
TE. Bona:kak:bunny
Flex. Ghug:worcej:flum
D/St. Flum:bunny:damo
K. Will:col7by:sweet
I/R. TFB:ghug:colby

Ham:
1 QB 1 Glitterbomb:ghug:HamBrian
2 RB 1 Bunny:worcej:Glitter
3 RB 2 bona:sweet:Colby
4 WR 1 worcej:rivera:ghug
5 WR 2 damo:hamilton:bozo
6 TE Col7by;kak:worcej
7 FLEX jamie:damo:bunny
8 D/ST bozo:bunny:damo
9 K sweetandcool:col7by:sweet
10 I/R Kak:bona:kak

Haze:
Modkilled for lack of roster

Jamie:
QB. bozotheclown:
RB1. Damo666:
RB2. Bonatogether:
WR1. Col7by:
WR2. HazewithaZ:
TE. Worcej:
Flex. Ghug:
D/St. Rdrivera2005:
K. Hamilton Brian:
I/R. Fluminator:

Just:
QB. Jamie:will
RB1. Bona:col7by
RB2. Glitter:kak
WR1. Bozo:bozo
WR2. Rdr:ghug
TE. Will:sweet
Flex. Worcej:worcej
D/St. Bunny:bunny
K sweet:rivera
I/R. TFB:bona

Kak:
1 QB 1 glitterbomb:glitter:HamBrian
2 RB 1 sweet:bozo:Colby
3 RB 2 RD:sweet:Bozo
4 WR 1 bozo:rivera:Glitter
5 WR 2 haze:hambrian:Sweet
6 TE col7by:col7by:worcej
7 FLEX worcej:worcej:Bunny
8 D/ST bunny:bunny:damo
9 K Kak:kak:Kak
10 I/R (vote out) Flum:flum:Flum

EdenSweet:
1 QB 1 BunnyGo:Will:Colby
2 RB 1 sweetandcool:Sweet:ghug
3 RB 2 Ham:Col7by:bozo
4 WR 1 Glitterbomb:flum:Kak
5 WR 2 Jamiet:glitter:Glitter
6 TE Will:bozo:flum
7 FLEX Kak:ghug:bunny
8 D/ST Bozo:damo:sweet
9 K damo:kak:HamBrian
10 I/R TheFlyingBoat:bona:damo

Rivera:
QB. Bozo:ghug:
RB1. Kak:worcej:
RB2. Col7by:flum:
WR1. Bona:damo:
WR2. Glitter:HamBrian:
TE. TFB:Kak:
Flex. Ghug:bozo:
D/St. Rdrivera:bunny:
K. Haze:col7by:
I/R. Damo:sweet:

TFB:
Modkilled and full of French grapes

Worcej:
QB Jamie:Glitter:Bunny
RB1 Bozo:just:Glitter
RB2 Bunny:sweet:Colby
WR1 Fluminator:ghug:ghug
WR2 Bona:bozo:bozo
TE worcej:kak:worcej
FLEX Will:damo:HamBrian
D/ST HB:worce:sweet
K Glitter:rivera:damo
I/R Damo:bunny:Kak


Is for Town and Is for mafia

[Fluminator]

Does anyone want to somehow create a doc of when submissions were complete and the order. The google doc is just the final submissions rip

[Fluminator]

Gm note
To be clear I do not sleep with any blankets on me. Unless it is winter. So I allow it.

Vote tally
Nothing to report as of yet

Restrictions!
worcej may not be voted QB this phase
bozotheclown may not be voted D/ST this phase
Col7by and damo666 may never be kicker again
Damo may not be voted as flex this phase

Please make careful note of these restrictions and avoid submitting rosters that will be rejected due to these existing restrictions

Worcej and Bozo being blocked from PRs might actually be significant. Coming back to this later.

ok nevermind, their blocks seemed like fluke mostly. Maybe there will be more with wagon analysis and the order of votes. I might have some time later today to make it.

[Fluminator]

But I will give a free townread to any player who orders the roster submissions for each day.

If you're scum, this could be the easiest opportunity ever to be townread.

[damo666]

Final tally
Qb: HamiltonBrian (7)
Rb: Tie
Rb2: col7by (6)
WR: worcej (3)
WR2: bozotheclown (4)
TE: worcej (6)
Flex: BunnyGo (8)
DST: damo666 (6)
K: damo666 (3)
IR: kakarotto (6)

@GM

Kicker is a tie (me and sweet) not damo

##call GM

see above

check restrictions please