MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[EspressoPatronum]

Aye... taking off my bozo hat
(Bozo, if you're reading this... I DO actually enjoy your plans, and think that we more often should/could follow them)

Back to reality...

Again I ask (EP, but anyone) what value does EP have in figuring out Gamora? Didn't EP just paint a target on 'someone's' back?

Thanos is the only one who 100% knows who Gamora is.

My argument is this:
P0. Thanos wants to lunch Gamora to start NKing with an active soul stone
P1. If more NKs speeds up the game
P2. And a faster game means we hit lylo/mylo sooner
P3. And town hitting mylo/lylo sooner is bad for town
C. Then it is bad for town to allow more NKs.

Considering that conclusion, I think it's in our best interest to have an idea on who Gamora might be so we can avoid lynching them, which in turn prevents more NKs. It'll be bad if scum gets the soul stone, but it's worse if the SK gets it first.

FFS we don't need to worry about Gamora AT ALL unless she's revealed by the Mind Stone,

Why? Knowing Gamora means we can get a possibly get a clear without the Mind Stone.

[Chaqa]

The ONLY way Gamora reveals is the Mind Stone. She DOES NOT know who she is. NO ONE knows who she is except the SK. we have NO WAY besides a lucky Mind Stone to find her.

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

If she gets revealed, we obviously NEVER lynch her, because DUH.

This is the absolute dumbest line of discussion all game.

[EspressoPatronum]

##vote Vaporwave

The rdr wagon feels genuine, but I don't think we have to worry about lynching the SK until Gamora dies. It'll good to figure out who Thanos is, but we'll just lose to scum if we get sidetracked on lynching the SK early.

[KalelChase]

***Snip***

How does Star child come from that Hebrew?

While catching up on thread (good lord can we pause this over weekends?), I thought I'd respond to close the loop on this...

Star child and voice of god both refer to the coming messiah. The creators of Superman were Jewish and used some of the phrasing for Kryptonian. Kal-El was sent to earth in a baby basket/spaceship, just like Moses was sent down river. As much as I am of a fan of Supes, it's not a particularly original story.

[EspressoPatronum]

The ONLY way Gamora reveals is the Mind Stone. She DOES NOT know who she is. NO ONE knows who she is except the SK. we have NO WAY besides a lucky Mind Stone to find her.

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

If she gets revealed, we obviously NEVER lynch her, because DUH.

This is the absolute dumbest line of discussion all game.

Ok let me walk you through my reasoning. Freaking out isn't going to help anyone.

Thanos learns who Gamora is on D2.
Thanos needs Gamora to die asap so Thanos can NK.

If we know who Thanos is (and it's probably rdr), all we need to do is go back to their D2 iso and see which scum reads are new. If there's any new reads, there's a VERY high chance that person is Gamora.

Gamora does not know who they are, but Thanos does + we can likely piece out Gamora's identity through Thanos' actions.

[Chaqa]

If we know who Thanos is we don't need to worry about Gamora.

If Thanos is dead the Soul Stone doesn't matter.

There's literally no scenario where this will be an issue unless Thanos gets Gamora lynched before we catch him.

[Jamiet99uk]

@
TEMASEK
KALEL CHASE
YUUKI

Each of you has posted less than the GM. Even given the volume of Bunny's GM calls, this is an inadequate level of participation.

I'm sure at least one of you is scum. I'll re-read you all on the train this afternoon and report my findings.

Until then, you signed up to play this game! So take part, dammit!!

I'm gonna go ahead and say yuuki won't be answering your prod.

He's dead.

Oh, duh, yes.

[EspressoPatronum]

If we know who Thanos is we don't need to worry about Gamora.

If Thanos is dead the Soul Stone doesn't matter.

There's literally no scenario where this will be an issue unless Thanos gets Gamora lynched before we catch him.

You're focusing on Gamora as a problem. You're right, but you're missing my main point.

I'm trying to show that we can also use Gamora as a benefit. We can use Thanos' actions as an investigational tool to generate a pseudo-clear (without needing the Mind Stone) on Gamora.

[Jamiet99uk]

I've re-read Temasek. He feels a bit scummy but he's contributed so little that there's not much there to analyse.

The main thing I get from reading him is that his reasons for voting Yuuki during D2 were very sketchy. First "just as a placeholder" and then "just to tie things up". Never gave a case or strong push on Yuuki, mostly just remarked on Yuuki's limited participation, which is rich coming from such a low poster.

Could be low intensity scum.

[Chaqa]

If we know who Thanos is we don't need to worry about Gamora.

If Thanos is dead the Soul Stone doesn't matter.

There's literally no scenario where this will be an issue unless Thanos gets Gamora lynched before we catch him.

You're focusing on Gamora as a problem. You're right, but you're missing my main point.

I'm trying to show that we can also use Gamora as a benefit. We can use Thanos' actions as an investigational tool to generate a pseudo-clear (without needing the Mind Stone) on Gamora.

Only if we, you know, find Thanos.

Which is what I've been trying to do.

[foodcoats]

Well this is great, one of chaqa maniac darg or tem is guaranteed scum because this SK hunt is not only strategically suspect but also logically fallacious.

[foodcoats]

I also see EP is great at hunting the SK.

[Chaqa]

Well this is great, one of chaqa maniac darg or tem is guaranteed scum because this SK hunt is not only strategically suspect but also logically fallacious.

Don't be obtuse. The tightened lynch pool I'm suggesting is great because they can be SK or scum.

[foodcoats]

Well this is great, one of chaqa maniac darg or tem is guaranteed scum because this SK hunt is not only strategically suspect but also logically fallacious.

Don't be obtuse. The tightened lynch pool I'm suggesting is great because they can be SK or scum.

That's a truism

[Chaqa]

Well this is great, one of chaqa maniac darg or tem is guaranteed scum because this SK hunt is not only strategically suspect but also logically fallacious.

Don't be obtuse. The tightened lynch pool I'm suggesting is great because they can be SK or scum.

That's a truism

You're a truism.

[foodcoats]

Don't be obtuse. The tightened lynch pool I'm suggesting is great because they can be SK or scum.

That's a truism

You're a truism.

Lol DAMMIT I'VE BEEN CONFOUNDED

I guess i'll iso rdr at some point

[Foxcastle]

I have an idea related to SK hunting, is that up for discussion, or is the consensus that it's a distraction from scum?

[Foxcastle]

Do you have 20 minutes?

I will have 20 minutes in about an hour, probably.

Cool...I was thinking try researching like a trial. Pick a town or scum read you have and then do everything you can to prove that you're wrong. Post the results here. Best case you can make. On whomever.

Yeah, this is how I used to play. I don't like where it leads me, in part because I start getting pushy on ideas that aren't necessarily great, and also because it has not historically led me to scum, ever, that I can tell.

[Chaqa]

The trick I use to scumhunt most of the time is to just not actually read anyone's posts for evidence and instead use voting history and PoE.

[foodcoats]

Just want to say hi and also to suggest to all towny people to be careful with post, specially claims (fake or not) as Mafia starts with the Reality stone.

This persona ND choosed is annoying, Vecna at least is fun.

This is actually a really good point from rivera, I didn't think about how that would work before - I thought the reality stone sounded kinda weak. But the fact that rivera points out how scum can use this to suss CLAIMS is a really good point. If I had thought of this fact and was scum I would not share it. But maybe it's more obvious to more experienced players than myself and could be an easy way to get towniepoints for scum!rivera.