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Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

#3341 Post by ghug » Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:19 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:48 pm
ghug wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:41 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:25 pm
Alternatively, this was just bussing day and my read on Fox is dogshit and he's scum.

But the number of suspicious people on that wagon..

Maybe im just seeing things. Maybe im onto something?
Can you explain why you townread Fox?

For my part, the abrasive tone itself isn't the issue, it just seems like he's using it as cover for not doing much of substance, and he's doing all the little scummy things (asking about mafia experience, loudly noting that he won't be around at EoD when he's on the block, vaguely shading everyone on his wagon rather than trying to use his perspective to read people).

Several of those things did happen after I voted, but when I voted I knew I was leaving and voted for the scummiest person with votes.
Asking about mafia experience of a player I've never met in the first 24 hours of game? I was curious who I was dealing with.

Noting I won't be around at EOD when I'm a viable wagon? Yeah, I wanted to discourage people from voting for me. That's not AI, since town wanting to stay alive is just as valid as scum wanting to stay alive. Also, why aren't you harping on Thamrick or the lurkers if you're so worried about participation.

And I'm shading people who are voting for me because their reasons for voting for me are weak and poorly thought out. If they're town, they should do better, and if they're scum, people should be aware.
The asking about experience and declaring you won't be around are both things I see scum do more. Maybe you're one of those awful people who think we shouldn't kill people who aren't around EoD, but I don't think you're awful.

The shading of your wagon is the only "hunting" I can really remember you doing, and it's both incredibly shallow and more focused on self-preservation than solving.

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Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

#3342 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:24 pm

ISO Summary of THAMRICK:

P.1-2: Introductory shitposting with Ghug and Foxcastle.

P.25: Calls Bona "weird" for voting for Vecna.

P.26: Half-assedly defends himself against a vote from Vecna by questioning Vecna's language. Asks Vecna why he suspects Kgray.

Vanishes for a long time.

P.64: Said he was busy in RL and promised to catch up at EoD1.

P.72: Voted for Chaqa during EoD without making any other posts or comments so either he didn't properly catch up or he chose to keep his thoughts a secret.

Vanished for the whole of N1.

P.120: Said he'd been busy, but claimed he was now caught up. Townreads on Bob, Jasnah, Celaph. Scumread Bona and Foxcastle. Promised to be more active "next week". Votes Bonatogether.

Vanishes again.

P.146: Says he's been busy. Asks myself and Bob who we scumread.

P.147: Asks about Lfischl's herb claim. Unvotes Bona after I point out he is voting for the Deputy claimant.

P.153: Says "I prefer the Foxcastle wagon" and votes for Fox.

P.154: I ask him why he prefers Fox and he replies "mostly gut".

Vanishes again. And that's all. Hasn't posted tonight.

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Thamrick has repeatedly apologised for being too busy but on a couple of occasions he said he was catching up, went on to say he had caught up, but offered no thoughts on what he'd read during his catch-up.

The time for stalling and excuses is now over and Thamrick needs to step up, or he ought to be a wagon. We've had too many instances of lurking scum in webDip Mafia in recent years and I will be voting Thamrick from the beginning of D3. It's up to him to change my mind.

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Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

#3343 Post by Vecna » Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:44 pm

thamrick wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:39 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:25 pm
So right now, I have in my non-town category:

Tham
Kgray
Chaqa

maybe Ghug, maybe EMC
Why Kgray?
Jamiet, you think its possible Kgray was already beamed up at this point? Her last post was on P6.

Him asking specifically about Kgray seems like a strange thing here. He made no mention of Kgray anywhere, almost like he's just trying to discredit the readslist knowing she about to die soon.

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#3344 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:49 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:44 pm
thamrick wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:39 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:25 pm
So right now, I have in my non-town category:

Tham
Kgray
Chaqa

maybe Ghug, maybe EMC
Why Kgray?
Jamiet, you think its possible Kgray was already beamed up at this point? Her last post was on P6.

Him asking specifically about Kgray seems like a strange thing here. He made no mention of Kgray anywhere, almost like he's just trying to discredit the readslist knowing she about to die soon.
It's possible. I mean we're speculating, but I don't see any reason to rule it out.

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#3345 Post by Bonatogether » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:13 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:40 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:32 am
damo666 wrote:
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How on earth do you conclude that I am 'pretty clearly scum'?

I am trying to help you not waste your scan.
1) You have no scumreads to speak of. You have pushed no one. You have been talking but not saying anything.

2) You tried to wagon me by asking loaded questions that assume I am scum. You're smart enough to know that is not how an argument works.

3) You seem desperate to not be scanned. Your argument presupposes knowledge that I can only gain by scanning you. You cannot seem to tell me why, using only information I have, I should not scan you.
Bona, did you ask the GM's if you flip with your sanity revealed?

If you did not ask, why the fuck not?

If you did ask, and the answer is yes, why have you not just been scanning other people?
...because knowing my sanity earlier is better? We could know my sanity tomorrow if we're lucky.

Why are you saying this in response to my conversation with damo?

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#3346 Post by Vecna » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:20 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:13 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:40 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:32 am


1) You have no scumreads to speak of. You have pushed no one. You have been talking but not saying anything.

2) You tried to wagon me by asking loaded questions that assume I am scum. You're smart enough to know that is not how an argument works.

3) You seem desperate to not be scanned. Your argument presupposes knowledge that I can only gain by scanning you. You cannot seem to tell me why, using only information I have, I should not scan you.
Bona, did you ask the GM's if you flip with your sanity revealed?

If you did not ask, why the fuck not?

If you did ask, and the answer is yes, why have you not just been scanning other people?
...because knowing my sanity earlier is better? We could know my sanity tomorrow if we're lucky.

Why are you saying this in response to my conversation with damo?
Nothing to do with Damo, it just occured to me you wouldve had ways of playing the role entirely differently depending on whether your sanity flips upon death or not.

So you never asked the GM if your sanity flips for us on death?

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#3347 Post by Bonatogether » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:24 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:20 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:13 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:40 pm


Bona, did you ask the GM's if you flip with your sanity revealed?

If you did not ask, why the fuck not?

If you did ask, and the answer is yes, why have you not just been scanning other people?
...because knowing my sanity earlier is better? We could know my sanity tomorrow if we're lucky.

Why are you saying this in response to my conversation with damo?
Nothing to do with Damo, it just occured to me you wouldve had ways of playing the role entirely differently depending on whether your sanity flips upon death or not.

So you never asked the GM if your sanity flips for us on death?
I didn't think it was the case, since it was not mentioned in the role PM.

If you're so interested, why don't you ask the gm yourself? I don't see what this conversation is getting us.

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#3348 Post by brainbomb » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:49 pm

I wonder if worcej got jailed

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#3349 Post by brainbomb » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:50 pm

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#3350 Post by Vecna » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:50 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:49 pm
I wonder if worcej got jailed
Worcej's your gunman and you dont want the alien to infect him, amirite?

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#3351 Post by brainbomb » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:51 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:50 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:49 pm
I wonder if worcej got jailed
Worcej's your gunman and you dont want the alien to infect him, amirite?
doesnt work that way bud
jailing doesnt save you from kills or actions
read the setup nils

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#3352 Post by brainbomb » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:52 pm

on the plus side you slipped as not being the alien or the jailor there!

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#3353 Post by Vecna » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:53 pm

Not like im gonna survive the night, but cool.

Weird design of that role.

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#3354 Post by brainbomb » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:53 pm

also my item is a alien dna kit so im ready to cure ppl when called upon

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#3355 Post by Vecna » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:54 pm

dont use it tonight


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#3357 Post by brainbomb » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:57 pm

so my scumteam at this point is thamrick, fox, damo, maniac, celaph, rdrivera. any in there could be alien or scum

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#3358 Post by brainbomb » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:57 pm

not gonna bother with any explanation on those reads because you wont read it anyway

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#3359 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:57 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:49 pm
I wonder if worcej got jailed
Where have you been exactly?

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#3360 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:58 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:57 pm
not gonna bother with any explanation on those reads because you wont read it anyway
I would like to read it please.

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