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[Hamilton Brian]

Notice anything about Kak's D1:D2:D3 votes?

1 QB 1 glitterbomb:glitter:HamBrian
2 RB 1 sweet:bozo:Colby
3 RB 2 RD:sweet:Bozo
4 WR 1 bozo:rivera:Glitter
5 WR 2 haze:hambrian:Sweet
6 TE col7by:col7by:worcej
7 FLEX worcej:worcej:Bunny
8 D/ST bunny:bunny:damo
9 K Kak:kak:Kak
10 I/R (vote out) Flum:flum:Flum

[ghug]

I hope you are town, so that I did not waste the doctor protection on you N1.

Why drop this now after holding what is this play

It had already been revealed by ghug.

Are you surprised that damo was able to figure it out?

[bozotheclown]

I won't be around much today before eon.
The last minute push on me was an attempt to save Kak. It's pretty clear from my perspective
Ghug and Colby were the most vocal, but Sweet was talking about it too. Ghug later asked tonight why Sweet didn't hop on my wagon which was interesting.

Like I said earlier, although it was a scum push, I don't think it would have happened if there wasn't at least one town that suspected me.
So I lean towards two of Ghug/Colby/Sweet being scum. I would find it hilarious if all were scum, but I don't think all 4 and only 4 scum are scum reading me lol.

If I die, kill one of those 3 next.

While fair I actually tried for the ghug push with you

It's almost like Flum knew how Kak was going to flip and didn't want trying to kill someone at the last minute hanging over his head.

I have the benefit of knowing my own alignment here, but I think the idea that there was a scum-motivated push to save Kak is pretty silly on the face of it. Kak was dead weight to their team, and a majority spent much of the late day thinking he'd be modkilled. By the time I started pushing in earnest to kill someone else, it was pretty late and pretty unlikely Kak wouldn't be the death, and almost certain that he'd be dying soon one way or another even if he avoided it. Given that Kak wasn't providing much of anything to his team, what reason would mafia have to put multiple members out on limbs and looking bad just to try and save him?

It could have won the game, if BunnyGo gets a vig shot and if mafia.

[Hamilton Brian]

If glitterbomb is mafia...did they either bus teammate col7by on D3 or try to throw anyone non-mafia into it?

I do jive with ghug's assertion that kak was dead weight so no one was going to attempt to save kak in any fashion.

But wouldn't that have been the ultimate bus to have the whole team IR Kak?

[ghug]

While fair I actually tried for the ghug push with you

It's almost like Flum knew how Kak was going to flip and didn't want trying to kill someone at the last minute hanging over his head.

I have the benefit of knowing my own alignment here, but I think the idea that there was a scum-motivated push to save Kak is pretty silly on the face of it. Kak was dead weight to their team, and a majority spent much of the late day thinking he'd be modkilled. By the time I started pushing in earnest to kill someone else, it was pretty late and pretty unlikely Kak wouldn't be the death, and almost certain that he'd be dying soon one way or another even if he avoided it. Given that Kak wasn't providing much of anything to his team, what reason would mafia have to put multiple members out on limbs and looking bad just to try and save him?

It could have won the game, if BunnyGo gets a vig shot and if mafia.

I don't think a mafia that's a miskill away from KILO and hasn't lost anyone yet gambles everything on a 1/3 of winning.

[Hamilton Brian]

Sorry ghug...you've probably addressed this already but I am running short.

Why Flum in the IR on D3 instead of Kak?

[bozotheclown]

Why drop this now after holding what is this play

It had already been revealed by ghug.

Are you surprised that damo was able to figure it out?

Not after you told him you had indicted it somewhere. The only way he could have known otherwise is if you both are mafia, which I was considering possible for awhile.

[Hamilton Brian]

Given how much flum wanted that FLEX, I think I'd advocate throwing them on the IR right now too.

[ghug]

Sorry ghug...you've probably addressed this already but I am running short.

Why Flum in the IR on D3 instead of Kak?

1. Flum has been my top scumread. Kak was up there, but I'm always pushing for my top choice.
2. I think we're really hundred in this game by a lack of VCA, so I wasn't super psyched about unanimously killing someone with minimal connections because they were about to be modkilled for the second time in three votes. The setup doesn't mean we can't have dynamic days.

[ghug]

It had already been revealed by ghug.

Are you surprised that damo was able to figure it out?

Not after you told him you had indicted it somewhere. The only way he could have known otherwise is if you both are mafia, which I was considering possible for awhile.

Same but you and not me.

[bozotheclown]

At least is wasn't a sweep.

Some questions I have are:

1. Was Kakarroto bussing Fluminator with his questionable reasons to scum read him D1 and D2?

2. Was sweetandcool trying to protect Kakarroto D1 EOD?

3. Would Col7by be that obvious trying to protect Kakarroto?

4. Was BunnyGo bussing Kakarroto D1 and D3?

5. Was Hamilton bussing Kakarroto D1?

5. Was ghug bussing Kakarroto D1?

I have concluded that 2, 4, 5a, and 5b are most likely, so I think the remaining mafia are in sweetandcool/BunnyGo/Hamilton/ghug.

[Col7by]

Notice anything about Kak's D1:D2:D3 votes?

1 QB 1 glitterbomb:glitter:HamBrian
2 RB 1 sweet:bozo:Colby
3 RB 2 RD:sweet:Bozo
4 WR 1 bozo:rivera:Glitter
5 WR 2 haze:hambrian:Sweet
6 TE col7by:col7by:worcej
7 FLEX worcej:worcej:Bunny
8 D/ST bunny:bunny:damo
9 K Kak:kak:Kak
10 I/R (vote out) Flum:flum:Flum

Wor and bunny looo really bad. Especially wor since they were moved to TE when Kak was almost for sure getting voted off

[bozotheclown]

At least is wasn't a sweep.

Some questions I have are:

1. Was Kakarroto bussing Fluminator with his questionable reasons to scum read him D1 and D2?

2. Was sweetandcool trying to protect Kakarroto D1 EOD?

3. Would Col7by be that obvious trying to protect Kakarroto?

4. Was BunnyGo bussing Kakarroto D1 and D3?

5. Was Hamilton bussing Kakarroto D1?

5. Was ghug bussing Kakarroto D1?

I have concluded that 2, 4, 5a, and 5b are most likely, so I think the remaining mafia are in sweetandcool/BunnyGo/Hamilton/ghug.

Kakarroto having me and Fluminator as his scum reads make me concerned Fluminator could be mafia, but I don't think it is likely Fluminator would be obvious preventing the Kakarroto DK D1 after bussing him most of the day.

[Col7by]

Notice anything about Kak's D1:D2:D3 votes?

1 QB 1 glitterbomb:glitter:HamBrian
2 RB 1 sweet:bozo:Colby
3 RB 2 RD:sweet:Bozo
4 WR 1 bozo:rivera:Glitter
5 WR 2 haze:hambrian:Sweet
6 TE col7by:col7by:worcej
7 FLEX worcej:worcej:Bunny
8 D/ST bunny:bunny:damo
9 K Kak:kak:Kak
10 I/R (vote out) Flum:flum:Flum

Wor and bunny looo really bad. Especially wor since they were moved to TE when Kak was almost for sure getting voted off

And glitter

[worcej]

##official roster

QB Glitterbomb
RB1 JustAGuyNamedWill
RB2 sweetandcool
WR1 ghug
WR2 bozo
TE Kak
FLEX damo
D/ST worcej
K rdr
I/R bunny

Notes:

1. I firmly agree with the concept of not stacking PRs onto players. In terms of the slots, I agree that glitter is town lean at worst at this point - she's done nothing scummy.
2. I'm using the RB slots as my "scum leans" to possibly fuck with scum on night actions. Will is a because I'm concerned I'm being buddied - "Sweden" is due to lack of content from the slot to place him (them?).
3. Throwing away the kicker and WR slots honestly - just placing ghug, bozo, and rdr there for now
4. I'm TE'ing Kak as I think he's an easy miskill atm that scum wouldn't want to exploit
5. I call Bunny's vote on me as an OMGUS and while mine can be viewed the same, this is rooted in my contempt for any player who pushed for the superpower position this game. You can also examine a vast majority of bunny's posts focused on getting power versus actually looking or explaining his reads on anyone.
6. I feel weirded out that I haven't seen any pushes or comments to flip kak after D1 had him as the narrative choice until the consensus became to vote out the person who was going to be modkilled. This makes me suspect Bunny/HB/ghug as they were on Kak but haven't revisited this and there isn't new information imho to change opinions on him.

@worcej how does your justification for TEing Kak here reconcile with your final point?

The final point was a commentary on the D2 experience that I was surprised he went from 2nd highest wagon to almost untouched. I thought it was weird that you, bunny, and HB didn't revisit it at all.

[bozotheclown]

I would be surprised if damo or worcej are mafia, and I think Col7by and GlitterBomb are probably town after all.

[BunnyGo]

Bunny, without looking at who s did the voting, do you suspect that Kak's teammates were most likely to:
1. Start the Kak as TE train D2 (to bus and protect him from the actual kill)
2. Jump on to solidify the Kak as TE train
or 3. Put Kak in other slots?

Actually; I’m on cell. Can you tell me, I didn’t do that analysis yet and would appreciate the input

Colby
Ham
Worcej
ghug
damo (with a nonofficial plan)
damo for real after a bunch of people locked
Glitter

Thanks! Trusting you blindly on this.

Leaving my shot in and going to take daughter to soccer. See you later.

[ghug]

I would be surprised if damo or worcej are mafia, and I think Col7by and GlitterBomb are probably town after all.

I still don't understand why you townread worcej so strongly.

[ghug]

##official roster

QB Glitterbomb
RB1 JustAGuyNamedWill
RB2 sweetandcool
WR1 ghug
WR2 bozo
TE Kak
FLEX damo
D/ST worcej
K rdr
I/R bunny

Notes:

1. I firmly agree with the concept of not stacking PRs onto players. In terms of the slots, I agree that glitter is town lean at worst at this point - she's done nothing scummy.
2. I'm using the RB slots as my "scum leans" to possibly fuck with scum on night actions. Will is a because I'm concerned I'm being buddied - "Sweden" is due to lack of content from the slot to place him (them?).
3. Throwing away the kicker and WR slots honestly - just placing ghug, bozo, and rdr there for now
4. I'm TE'ing Kak as I think he's an easy miskill atm that scum wouldn't want to exploit
5. I call Bunny's vote on me as an OMGUS and while mine can be viewed the same, this is rooted in my contempt for any player who pushed for the superpower position this game. You can also examine a vast majority of bunny's posts focused on getting power versus actually looking or explaining his reads on anyone.
6. I feel weirded out that I haven't seen any pushes or comments to flip kak after D1 had him as the narrative choice until the consensus became to vote out the person who was going to be modkilled. This makes me suspect Bunny/HB/ghug as they were on Kak but haven't revisited this and there isn't new information imho to change opinions on him.

@worcej how does your justification for TEing Kak here reconcile with your final point?

The final point was a commentary on the D2 experience that I was surprised he went from 2nd highest wagon to almost untouched. I thought it was weird that you, bunny, and HB didn't revisit it at all.

But you also thought mafia would target him for a miskill?

[bozotheclown]

Were you scum reading Hamilton before this?

Somewhat, yes. Certainly wasn't townreading him.

Hamilton was very helpful at D1 EOD in making sure we avoided ties in the critical positions, while a number of players who were active at EOD seemed to be ignoring that risk. I think Hamilton could easily do that as mafia to duplicate what he would do as town, but I did not see any reason to scum read him for it. The primary reason I am now concerned Hamilton could be mafia is the possibility that you are bussing him.

This seems relevant again.