M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[Chaqa]

Who are you going to vote for?

I think it's Worcej.

I'm really not sure tbh.

I don't believe it to be Bunny or Demon.

Worcej makes a pretty compelling case for why it isn't you.

Rivera's vote on Hamilton looks good but he also was not online for the final hour of D1 so I'm hesitant to give him too much credit.

Ezio I think is most likely to have bussed Damo, but I think it's unlikely that happened given mafia lost Hamilton D1.

So that leaves worcej.

If it isn't him, back to the drawing board I guess.

I like it that you agree that Worcej's push on me is so backward it actually makes a case for me being town.

So, that leaves Worcej.

Care to vote and hammer him? You said you wanted hammers.

Let's form these wagons.

I mean, what I'm worried about is that if we flip worcej and he's town, you guys then flip me, and then we've lost.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm really not sure tbh.

I don't believe it to be Bunny or Demon.

Worcej makes a pretty compelling case for why it isn't you.

Rivera's vote on Hamilton looks good but he also was not online for the final hour of D1 so I'm hesitant to give him too much credit.

Ezio I think is most likely to have bussed Damo, but I think it's unlikely that happened given mafia lost Hamilton D1.

So that leaves worcej.

If it isn't him, back to the drawing board I guess.

I like it that you agree that Worcej's push on me is so backward it actually makes a case for me being town.

So, that leaves Worcej.

Care to vote and hammer him? You said you wanted hammers.

Let's form these wagons.

I mean, what I'm worried about is that if we flip worcej and he's town, you guys then flip me, and then we've lost.

Who is your second suspect after Worcej? Sounds like you're between Rdr and Ezio, right?

[Chaqa]

I like it that you agree that Worcej's push on me is so backward it actually makes a case for me being town.

So, that leaves Worcej.

Care to vote and hammer him? You said you wanted hammers.

Let's form these wagons.

I mean, what I'm worried about is that if we flip worcej and he's town, you guys then flip me, and then we've lost.

Who is your second suspect after Worcej? Sounds like you're between Rdr and Ezio, right?

Yeah I guess so, but I want to do some deep dives into VCA before I vote again. In particular I like where Bunny was going and want to do something similar with analyzing the votes on D1:

VOTE COUNT THE THIRD

Chaqa (3): ghug, brainbomb, damo666
Hamilton Brian (3): Chaqa, rdrivera2005, Jamiet99uk
ghug (2): worcej*, sweetandcool
Vecna (2): Ezio, Hamilton Brian
No-Kill (1): DemonRHK
Kakarroto (1): aarodactyl
damo666 (1): Kakarroto

Worcej is voting to end.

Vecna has not voted.

No one is scheduled to be eliminated. Day ends in approximately 10 minutes.

I noted that this was the post to do VCA on

hmmm...would HB have joined scum!ezio to push vecna?

The thing is, that I know I'm town, so there was no other scum wagon D1. The implications that has for VCA? Jury's out yet.

[Chaqa]

I almost think it would be better to vote me out so you guys would be un-tunneled simply due to that reason.

I guess I can hope worcej is scum, but if worcej flips town and people want to vote me next, then I urge you to vote me first, because I'm town.

[Chaqa]

Frankly I'm pretty fucking annoyed I'm still under suspicion despite catching scum on Day 1.

I'm a busser but I'm not a fucking lunatic.

[BunnyGo]

Frankly I'm pretty fucking annoyed I'm still under suspicion despite catching scum on Day 1.

I'm a busser but I'm not a fucking lunatic.

I decided that HB WOULD join scum!ezio to make a whole wagon. Doesn’t clear ezio.

[worcej]

@worcej tell me about chaqa.

I’m left with a small PoE here. I don’t scum read him. But…who else?

To me, Chaqa looks the worst from D2 POE but when you include D1 I struggle to see why scum would outright target him as much as they did.

The one thing that gives me pause from just completely clearing him all together is the N0 chat thing. Chaqa could have easily told them to bus him for credit if he wasn't interested in the game, but he didn't seem uninterested in our N0 dance chat and then N1 either like he is now.

Another notch of concern is the HB move off of Chaqa with 00:03 left in phase when damo moved onto him, creating this: 3 Cha, 3 ghu, 3 Vec, 3 Ham

[worcej]

him = chaqa in my last bit of that spiele

[DemonRHK]

I'm personally softening on the Chaqa wagon. I'm mostly on it for ghug.

And you are a lunatic Chaqa, just not in that way I think.

I believe that the brain kill and the kak 1 message is an attempt to frame Jamie. Or to wine us into letting him off. I'm not down to cort that today anyway.

My personal S tier vote is worc. The voting record says most of it.

A tier is rdr. His last post being an hour out and the way EoD shook out makes that being an cred vote on a HB flip later meant to be on an off wagon a possibility, plus this man has cast less votes than I have, which is nuts.

B tier is Chaqa and bunny. Chaqa being scum would make tha tD1 an absolute scum debacle. Bunny might be, but I would need another day of game to develop.

Everyone else would be C Tier

[worcej]

Frankly I'm pretty fucking annoyed I'm still under suspicion despite catching scum on Day 1.

I'm a busser but I'm not a fucking lunatic.

It isn't your actions that make me potentially scum you, its what the known scum did that puts you in POE

[rdrivera2005]

Right now I am considering Ezio and Worcej. Looking only VCA Worcej seems most likely. Considering the play and the tone I think it's Ezio.

##vote Ezio

[worcej]

I know I am in POE and have no arguments against it. If you want to flip me, hammer me before phase change time please.

[worcej]

VCA for Ezio is interesting too.

D1 he is not involved with any known scum wagons and is planted on a confirmed town. His vote kept the Vecna wagon alive and how it all ended up really was a matter of D1 chaos misfortune in that regard.

D2 is the more intriguing situation because if he's scum, he went into hardcore bussing mode and did it early:

Of the people on me at the moment, I'd bet that's Chaqa more than the others.

Tell me why you're voting damo.

I'm voting damo b/c his d1 was terrible.
His iso was full of nonsense and unimportant statements. Only mechanical talk and not a lot of it. I expected more.
The main reason though is his terrible shift onto Chaqa at EoD to make Chaqa the leading wagon instead of HB. Knowing that HB flipped scum makes this vote look really really bad.

He effectively stayed this course the entire phase and barely wavered. With one scum already down, I am unsure if I would think Ezio would go balls to the wall bussing here.

[worcej]

Really, if you think about it - the key question for any scum read for Ezio and Demon is do you think they would hardcore bus damo on D2 or not.

[Chaqa]

Frankly I'm pretty fucking annoyed I'm still under suspicion despite catching scum on Day 1.

I'm a busser but I'm not a fucking lunatic.

It isn't your actions that make me potentially scum you, its what the known scum did that puts you in POE

Well it's a good thing scum act with the motive to help town solve.

[Chaqa]

Really, if you think about it - the key question for any scum read for Ezio and Demon is do you think they would hardcore bus damo on D2 or not.

It's been a long time since I've played with Ezio, and I don't have a ton of memories of Demon's playstyle outside him being a meme lord like me.

[Chaqa]

I think Ezio looks more genuine for his push on Damo.

There's a moment where he switches to Aaro and then back that I like.I also think he has little reason to stick to it to the point it grows all day, whereas Demon may have seen it coming and cut his losses.

[rdrivera2005]

Really, if you think about it - the key question for any scum read for Ezio and Demon is do you think they would hardcore bus damo on D2 or not.

It's been a long time since I've played with Ezio, and I don't have a ton of memories of Demon's playstyle outside him being a meme lord like me.

I was scum once with Ezio and he counter claimed me when I fake claimed and I was so pissed I won the CC and I eventually won the game for scum. So, he have balls to buss.

On this game, I think Damo was toasted after his D1 (specially when Vecna and Chaqa flips), so I don't give much credit for any D2 push on Damo. Demon get a lot of credit for jumping on Damo D1.

[Jamiet99uk]

I almost think it would be better to vote me out so you guys would be un-tunneled simply due to that reason.

I guess I can hope worcej is scum, but if worcej flips town and people want to vote me next, then I urge you to vote me first, because I'm town.

Stop crying, it's getting tiresome.

I don't suspect you.

[worcej]

This is where I am at currently as I reanalyze:

Most likely town based on actions: Jamie
Probably town due to D1 but still a little sus: Chaqa
Probably town due to pushes and timing: DemonRHK
Scum POE, not ranked in any order: Ezio, rdr, SweetBunnyGoCool

Continuing my dive into the last group