Mafia 57 Matrix

[Tom Bombadil]

I’d rather wait and see what our non participants say first before I share some other thoughts.

[goldfinger0303]

##Call GM - in the event of a tie vote for the anti-virus vote, what happens?

[BunnyGo]

##Call GM - in the event of a tie vote for the anti-virus vote, what happens?

He can answer too, but I've already confirmed in PMs that it requires a strict majority vote to use it.

[ghug]

Hi emc

[BunnyGo]

##Call GM - in the event of a tie vote for the anti-virus vote, what happens?

He can answer too, but I've already confirmed in PMs that it requires a strict majority vote to use it.

A 2 - 1 - 1 vote (for example) has nothing happen.

[ghug]

##Call GM - in the event of a tie vote for the anti-virus vote, what happens?

He can answer too, but I've already confirmed in PMs that it requires a strict majority vote to use it.

A 2 - 1 - 1 vote (for example) has nothing happen.

You'd vote for yourself though, right?

[BunnyGo]

He can answer too, but I've already confirmed in PMs that it requires a strict majority vote to use it.

A 2 - 1 - 1 vote (for example) has nothing happen.

You'd vote for yourself though, right?

Yeah. Would obviously vote to shoot myself with the antiviral weapon. Well reasoned.

[goldfinger0303]

Bunny, you are the least trustworthy person to rely on for this information. I will wait for Flum

[ghug]

Bunny, you are the least trustworthy person to rely on for this information. I will wait for Flum

Are you performing, or do you actually think Bunny would lie about this?

[ghug]

A 2 - 1 - 1 vote (for example) has nothing happen.

You'd vote for yourself though, right?

Yeah. Would obviously vote to shoot myself with the antiviral weapon. Well reasoned.

A boy can dream.

[Fluminator]

The anti-virus killer on a ship must be a majority of people on the ship. Not a plurality.

[BunnyGo]

Bunny, you are the least trustworthy person to rely on for this information. I will wait for Flum

Seriously? Do you not know me? I *hate* winning by cheating. AND THIS would be the stupidest thing to lie about now.

Wait for Flum, for confirmation, but there's no need to be rude. His exact message to me when asked said something like "strict majority, not plurality like in daykill votes"

@ghug he's probably performing because I was unnecessarily snarky at him in the ship QT. Sorry Gold, caught me at a bad moment.

[BunnyGo]

ninja'd by the confirmation!

[goldfinger0303]

Yeh so that’s what I was referring to about Goldie

I think it makes him >rand scum combined with his first post of the day, YMMV

Can you explain why?

Idk if I can rn tbh

It just uh

It pushes the pro-scum agenda, yeah? I don’t know how to quantify it and my head hurts too much to figure out how to lol

But yeah basically I think it was pushing a pro scum agenda in a way that scum who isn’t in the ship but is in a PT with bunny


Or it’s just bad town

Idk him well enough to distinguish between the two with confidence

Okay, so let's work this through, Nanook.

It pushes a pro scum agenda (your words, I personally disagree) in a way that scum who isn't in the ship but is in a QT with Bunny.

First - if I was scum and there was another scum on the ship, I would already know the truth. There would be no reason to try and obfuscate who the real virus is. Scum would not advocate for a daykill that could potentially hit one of them when the alternative is a free NK.

Second - I sent that before QTs went out. I told you I hadn't received it yet and GM confirmed. So how would I have time to arrange something with Bunny in a separate QT if I was scum and the QTs weren't even out yet?

[goldfinger0303]

Thanks Flum.

Alright, I feel I've made my position clear. I don't think bo is scum, so there is no risk in trusting ship to use the anti-viral. I would rather have two shots at daykills than one. But if town collectively disagrees, I will bow to your combined wisdom

[Nanook]

And yet, there was less than a point saying it out loud as town.

I don't have confidence in those on the ship to do what needs doing.

Agreed.

They've done little of use so far.

For someone that’s preaching “we’ve gotta work together”

You’ve also been consistently rude and antagonistic since I revealed

[Nanook]

Can you explain why?

Idk if I can rn tbh

It just uh

It pushes the pro-scum agenda, yeah? I don’t know how to quantify it and my head hurts too much to figure out how to lol

But yeah basically I think it was pushing a pro scum agenda in a way that scum who isn’t in the ship but is in a PT with bunny


Or it’s just bad town

Idk him well enough to distinguish between the two with confidence

Okay, so let's work this through, Nanook.

It pushes a pro scum agenda (your words, I personally disagree) in a way that scum who isn't in the ship but is in a QT with Bunny.

First - if I was scum and there was another scum on the ship, I would already know the truth. There would be no reason to try and obfuscate who the real virus is. Scum would not advocate for a daykill that could potentially hit one of them when the alternative is a free NK.

Second - I sent that before QTs went out. I told you I hadn't received it yet and GM confirmed. So how would I have time to arrange something with Bunny in a separate QT if I was scum and the QTs weren't even out yet?

That’s the thing though, QTs were out

Also like...you were pushing for me specifically to die, and if you were scum you’d know I was town to....I don’t understand point one.

[Nanook]

Let’s game it out shall we

14 alive

We use the AV and I get NKed, 12 alive, 7 town/5 mafia

We try to use the AV and one scum on the ship outs to stop it, I get NKed and one town dies to virus shot, 12 alive, 6 town/5 mafia/1 virus, we have a tied vote for the outed mafia and the virus, even if we win the vote it goes to 11 alive (6/4/1), two NKs make it 4/4/1, and virus/mafia win

We kill bunny today to go to 13, I get NKed and it goes to 12 alive, 7 town/5 mafia


So first and third outcome have the same result (using AV doesn’t buy us an extra kill btw, I’m not sure where that idea came from?), except third option doesn’t have the downside of the first.


(I’m ignoring the “try to kill mafia on the ship” options for now)

[Nanook]

##VOTE Bunny

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE BuNNYGO