MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

also i am shitposting live from i-81 north

incidentally passed within 30 miles of where chaqa lives, i think

81 doesn't get too close to me, but that's about right AFAIK

[worcej]

Part of me wants to give lock town, town core status to worcej

But he's only town if he's loud and wrong. I think his case and push in eden has a lot merit to it.

Eden looks terrible under pressure and the whole weird ate at the end.

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[BesharamSabi]

Part of me wants to give lock town, town core status to worcej

But he's only town if he's loud and wrong. I think his case and push in eden has a lot merit to it.

Eden looks terrible under pressure and the whole weird ate at the end.

I love how I get so much shit for being wrong yet if you really think about it I'm just as wrong as all of you

Jokes >>> facts

Did you see me trying to see if scum eden would do this case?

[Bonatogether]

scrolling through worcej vs eden, not sure i agree that eden constantly fighting is a thing he does, but i agree with the cej that eden does not feel quite right. will try to elaborate further when not in car. acknowledge that he did do a similar thing in another game to gauge my response, so not totally clear on what he's thinking

[Chaqa]

Part of me wants to give lock town, town core status to worcej

But he's only town if he's loud and wrong. I think his case and push in eden has a lot merit to it.

Eden looks terrible under pressure and the whole weird ate at the end.

worcej considered harmful

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[Bonatogether]

##vote snowy
to get off the meme vote

[worcej]

In a w!Eden world I could see him trying to pocket and hard shielding a newbie like Rumi.

I don't see w!Eden turning on t!Bona like that tho. He wouldn't try to bite the hand that feeds (him townreads). That type of heel turn I would see if Bona was scum with him which I just don't see is the most optimal move esp since no one was really sussing him.

I just don't see w!eden turning on Bona in any world. Eden isn't that bad at mafia.

If he isn’t that bad at mafia why did he do it

Because he's t!Eden who is a bit lost and can't find a way to center himself. I just don't see w!eden would make a suboptimal play like this because he has to be self aware. People who are town aren't self aware of stuff like this when they are accusing people of being scum.

Don't you think Eden was trying to be self aware the entire time he was engaging with me?

[worcej]

I'm just better off going back to being uwu what's mafia uwu again aren't I

I don't understand your explanation or methodology on your logic that scum!eden wouldn't cast a joke vote on Bona.

[BesharamSabi]

If he isn’t that bad at mafia why did he do it

Because he's t!Eden who is a bit lost and can't find a way to center himself. I just don't see w!eden would make a suboptimal play like this because he has to be self aware. People who are town aren't self aware of stuff like this when they are accusing people of being scum.

Don't you think Eden was trying to be self aware the entire time he was engaging with me?

Eh maybe.

Eden has been extremely uncharitable towards me this game so I'm not trying to defend him. I just don't think it makes logical sense from him to do all of this as scum.

[Chaqa]

I'm mostly upset Eden is breaking the sanctity of the voting bloc.

[BesharamSabi]

I'm just better off going back to being uwu what's mafia uwu again aren't I

I don't understand your explanation or methodology on your logic that scum!eden wouldn't cast a joke vote on Bona.

It's suboptimal play. Him bussing Bona doesn't make sense at that point in the game. If Bona is town, why the fuck would scum eden pick him to put pressure on and not someone else that was in poe for people

[BesharamSabi]

I'm just better off going back to being uwu what's mafia uwu again aren't I

I don't understand your explanation or methodology on your logic that scum!eden wouldn't cast a joke vote on Bona.

It's suboptimal play. Him bussing Bona doesn't make sense at that point in the game. If Bona is town, why the fuck would scum eden pick him to put pressure on and not someone else that was in poe for people

He had a whole case/tunnel on snowy slot. Why diverge from that for Bona

[Jamiet99uk]

Part of me wants to give lock town, town core status to worcej

But he's only town if he's loud and wrong. I think his case and push in eden has a lot merit to it.

Eden looks terrible under pressure and the whole weird ate at the end.

worcej considered harmful

For a number of years I have been familiar with the observation that the quality of programmers is a decreasing function of the density of go to statements in the programs they produce. More recently I discovered why the use of the go to statement has such disastrous effects, and I became convinced that the go to statement should be abolished from all "higher level" programming languages (i.e. everything except, perhaps, plain machine code). At that time I did not attach too much importance to this discovery; I now submit my considerations for publication because in very recent discussions in which the subject turned up, I have been urged to do so.
My first remark is that, although the programmer's activity ends when he has constructed a correct program, the process taking place under control of his program is the true subject matter of his activity, for it is this process that has to accomplish the desired effect; it is this process that in its dynamic behavior has to satisfy the desired specifications. Yet, once the program has been made, the "making' of the corresponding process is delegated to the machine.

[worcej]

So, this argument between Worcej and Eden.

I feel like this loud frustration is Town Worcej.

President Eden is being weird.

If I understand it:

Eden had declared Bona to be one of his top townreads. Then, for some reason, he flipped over to making Bona his #1 scumread without any explanation. Then, Worcej pressured him to explain himself and he first of all asserted that he had already given "hundreds of words" on the subject, but then apparently recanted on that position and now asserts that he won't explain his scumread on Bona.

@President Eden: Why do you expect anyone to join you on Bona if you're unwilling to explain yourself? If you've got a "gotcha" on him that you refuse to discuss until a later date, wouldn't it make sense to leave Bona until then?

Jamie's words here are more eloquent on why I'm fairly sure Eden isn't the cop and was just joke voting Bona and being weird about not explaining it.

[BesharamSabi]

All of this is supposed to be view under the guise that eden doesn't make suboptimal moves

But then his track record as town pr says otherwise.

[Jamiet99uk]

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My second remark is that our intellectual powers are rather geared to master static relations and that our powers to visualize processes evolving in time are relatively poorly developed. For that reason we should do (as wise programmers aware of our limitations) our utmost to shorten the conceptual gap between the static program and the dynamic process, to make the correspondence between the program (spread out in text space) and the process (spread out in time) as trivial as possible.

[worcej]

Part of me wants to give lock town, town core status to worcej

But he's only town if he's loud and wrong. I think his case and push in eden has a lot merit to it.

Eden looks terrible under pressure and the whole weird ate at the end.

I love how I get so much shit for being wrong yet if you really think about it I'm just as wrong as all of you

Jokes >>> facts

Did you see me trying to see if scum eden would do this case?

If you removed my positioning and stance right now, would anyone even care as much about what Eden is doing or would they think it's a joke?

You're thoughts that scum~eden wouldn't do this seem misplaced because really Eden didn't stick his neck out when he made the vote on Bona. If anything, he got 'caught' when he decided to engage with me as poorly as he did.

[Chaqa]

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My second remark is that our intellectual powers are rather geared to master static relations and that our powers to visualize processes evolving in time are relatively poorly developed. For that reason we should do (as wise programmers aware of our limitations) our utmost to shorten the conceptual gap between the static program and the dynamic process, to make the correspondence between the program (spread out in text space) and the process (spread out in time) as trivial as possible.

bro we get it you have 100,000 StackOverflow points

[worcej]

All of this is supposed to be view under the guise that eden doesn't make suboptimal moves

But then his track record as town pr says otherwise.

No, it isn't suboptimal I am discussing.

It's blatantly noob PR moves if he's actually the cop here. Noobs are the ones that rush with excitement when they get their first guilty scan.

[worcej]

Anyways.... super late for getting ready for work. TTYL.