Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[damo666]

Of course you should reveal, damo. I already did the hard part for you since Squigs is ready to lead a lynch mob on people that annoy him instead of people that are actually scummy.

Yeah, because a reaction test vote on you two hours into the day with only one person sheeping me is so much pressure that you had to reveal having the box.

I have the box and I'm not planning on letting it get swept into a random number generator, which is what Fox told me would happen if I were lynched before I revealed it. I don't care if it was a reaction test or not. I am not leaving it up to chance.

Having revealed is irrelevant. If you are lynched the box will still be reassigned randomly.

[rdrivera2005]

Well, I had some time at work waiting for a meeting and was trying to do some vote analysis on first days now that we know Demon was scum.
D1 he was the leading wagon for just a few minutes when Yav put him at 4 until Squigs changed to Damo and then Balki put it to a draw with 3 hours to go, all this town moves. Then thd wagon formed with votes from Vecna, Tom and Ike (all town), joining Ghug that already voted for thd. Then Damo get a push with Durga and Bozo votes and also a self vote. Then Balki leaved Dem to thd (puting him at second) and Bo voted Demon making him a viable wagon again. Then Worcej and Flash put thd in the lead (Demon, DrCJ and Damo also voted thd but when it´s a close deal).
What I get from this? I think Bo isn´t scum, unless Damo is also scum (really unlikely). I think at least one of Flash and Worcej might be scum making sure Demon is safe. I think Flash is more likely then Worcej considering his overall play. If Damo is town, probably one Durga/Bozo is also scum.

D2, Demon was never a wagon until 20 minutes to go. Damo was the leading wagon all day, but it started losing steam. Then Durga, Ghug and Bo started the wagon on Peter and DrCJ joined it. The moment Demon was under a minimum risk was when Balki and Ike voted for him making him third and then Xorxes voted him with 2 minutes to go. Then Damo (self defense), Demon (scum), Balki and Flash seal the deal on Peter.
It looks like scum might have moved to save Demon starting the Peter wagon. I think Durga, Bo and Ghug starting a wagon when Damo start to lose votes, could point to at least one of them being scum, most likely Ghug.

So, my top scumreads now are Flash, Ghug and Durga (not sure if they could be scum together, maybe there is a deep threat like ND, Bozo or Worcej).

Let´s see if Ghug is bussing ##vote Flash

[damo666]

Funnily enough I just completed a VCA and as a result I am now townreading rdrivera and bo_sox and to a lesser extent bozo & flash.

Of the remaining 4 I scumread durga most and ghug next (having twonread him all game!). Don't know whether ND or worcej is the Third Man but I guess ND on the basis that scum worcej would have passed box to scum.

##vote durga

[bo_sox48]

Yeah, because a reaction test vote on you two hours into the day with only one person sheeping me is so much pressure that you had to reveal having the box.

I have the box and I'm not planning on letting it get swept into a random number generator, which is what Fox told me would happen if I were lynched before I revealed it. I don't care if it was a reaction test or not. I am not leaving it up to chance.

Having revealed is irrelevant. If you are lynched the box will still be reassigned randomly.

Yeah but I won’t get lynched lol

[bo_sox48]

Interesting how bozo and rdrivera analyzed the exact same things and came back with polar opposite interpretations. You two should be asking each other questions and pinning down why you two are thinking the way you are.

[bo_sox48]

Likewise, damo, you should be giving some sort of measured reply to bozo’s case on you. Until you do, ##VOTE damo

[ghug]

Funnily enough I just completed a VCA and as a result I am now townreading rdrivera and bo_sox and to a lesser extent bozo & flash.

Of the remaining 4 I scumread durga most and ghug next (having twonread him all game!). Don't know whether ND or worcej is the Third Man but I guess ND on the basis that scum worcej would have passed box to scum.

##vote durga

You wanna share that analysis?

You think nobody bussed RHK yesterday?

[rdrivera2005]

Interesting how bozo and rdrivera analyzed the exact same things and came back with polar opposite interpretations. You two should be asking each other questions and pinning down why you two are thinking the way you are.

I don't think we have "polar opposite interpretations". We both agree that Ghug and Flash being scum is a possibility. Bozo scum read Damo, something I didn't agree. I see effort to save Demon on D1 and not Damo. On D2 I also think Damo wasn't saved but I can see what Bozo meant (I think Damo was losing steam and Peter was pushed as an easy target). I also think that I should let Damo adress Bozo's case on him, not me.

[bo_sox48]

Yes, you're right, rdrivera. I got a little bit of tunnel vision looking at damo specifically there.

I would love to see damo address the case on bozo on his own, if you're willing to wait on him. I just don't know that he's actually going to address it. I wasn't asking you to discredit it either, only to try and figure out with him where your views diverged. I have no doubt that there is information from the early days that can help us going forward if we can agree on how it should be interpreted.

I don't think a flash flip would hurt us at this stage, but it's probably appropriate to remind everyone that if this box blows up in my hands, you're losing at least one town player today, so treating this like it's another urgent day would be smart.

[ghug]

It's obviously urgent. A townie exploding doesn't worsen the situation, but the situation is bad regardless.

[bo_sox48]

No, I believe it just turns MYLO into LYLO if we get there.

[flash2015]

##CALL GM Stupid question. Who does the NK in this game? Is it the first mafia member that votes...or does a particular mafia member do it?

[Squigs44]

##vote flash

[rdrivera2005]

No, I believe it just turns MYLO into LYLO if we get there.

Yep, but exploding a scum give us one more myslinch.

[Durga]

K I'm back... Do I have to read this

[ghug]

K I'm back... Do I have to read this

They'll probably lynch you if you don't.

[Foxcastle]

##CALL GM Stupid question. Who does the NK in this game? Is it the first mafia member that votes...or does a particular mafia member do it?

"Mafia NK will be decided by majority vote. In the event of a tie, the oldest vote will break the tie. The oldest vote [for the winning target] determines which member of the Mafia team actually performs the kill."

[ND]

Honestly I haven't paid much attention to this since the elections. I guess I'll try to catch up.

[bo_sox48]

No, I believe it just turns MYLO into LYLO if we get there.

Yep, but exploding a scum give us one more myslinch.

Yes, that’s why I didn’t want to leave it to chance that I would be lynched today

[ghug]

No, I believe it just turns MYLO into LYLO if we get there.

Yep, but exploding a scum give us one more myslinch.

Yes, that’s why I didn’t want to leave it to chance that I would be lynched today

OMG GUISE HE CLAIMED SCUM