M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

Now, we have some time left in the day, though I imagine there's little difference to the current time frame than night time.

Does anyone want to discuss reads or something?

[Jamiet99uk]

Now, we have some time left in the day, though I imagine there's little difference to the current time frame than night time.

Does anyone want to discuss reads or something?

Well, I just asked a question.

[snowy801]

While we're waiting, can some one explain to me why you're all so sure Tom Worcejadil is scum?

It seems like while I was asleep, but before Macca issued his challenge, there was some kind of "gotcha" moment? The thing is I'm not clear on what it was.

vecna claims he roleblocked worcej/Tom Bombadil. There are no save claims. We already had a scum read on him.

Alternative possibilities are:
1) ghug was saved, but got shot before he could speak (unlikely, he spoke at the turn of night)
2) whoever commuted was shot, and doesn't know they narrowly missed death
3) Vecna is lying

All seems pretty unlikely, so good enough in my eyes.

[Jamiet99uk]

While we're waiting, can some one explain to me why you're all so sure Tom Worcejadil is scum?

It seems like while I was asleep, but before Macca issued his challenge, there was some kind of "gotcha" moment? The thing is I'm not clear on what it was.

vecna claims he roleblocked worcej/Tom Bombadil. There are no save claims. We already had a scum read on him.

Alternative possibilities are:
1) ghug was saved, but got shot before he could speak (unlikely, he spoke at the turn of night)
2) whoever commuted was shot, and doesn't know they narrowly missed death
3) Vecna is lying

All seems pretty unlikely, so good enough in my eyes.

I see. Yeah that's pretty close to a "gotcha" because I don't think Vecna is scum so I'd rule out option 3.

Option 2 is possible.

I would like to hear from Tom Bomb but as it stands he's up for execution tomorrow.

[Chaqa]

##call gm:

Are all of the following items in the game? Or is it either of them?

Brown Rice or White Rice
Black Beans or Pinto Beans

In other words, does the 3p have 8 items, of which he can gather 6? or does he need 6/6?

Every item listed in the Item document is in the game.

The 3P needs six items to win, but has two options for rice and beans.

[Jamiet99uk]

Whoopee here's Chaqa to answer all our many GM calls.

[snowy801]

You can skip my GM CALL if you want, I was straight up speaking untruths

[Chaqa]

Sigh

##GM CALL can people end the day on an unvote? Please and thank you.

Bob, how do you deal with people who spent all day properly playing, voting etc. and unvoted near the end just to have a second to think, and end up not getting back in time for a proper vote as a modkill? Whoever historically did that should be ashamed.

No. Its explicitly stated in the opening posts that all players must cast a vote.

[Chaqa]

Sigh

##GM CALL can people end the day on an unvote? Please and thank you.

Bob, how do you deal with people who spent all day properly playing, voting etc. and unvoted near the end just to have a second to think, and end up not getting back in time for a proper vote as a modkill? Whoever historically did that should be ashamed.

No. Its explicitly stated in the opening posts that all players must cast a vote.

From the setup:

Each player must end the day with a valid vote. Any player failing to do so will be replaced or mod-killed.

[Hamilton Brian]

So is No-Kill the preferred vote for today? Damo had a pretty reasonable vote suggestion but I guess that all fell apart when the spinach was activated.

[damo666]

While we're waiting, can some one explain to me why you're all so sure Tom Worcejadil is scum?

It seems like while I was asleep, but before Macca issued his challenge, there was some kind of "gotcha" moment? The thing is I'm not clear on what it was.

vecna claims he roleblocked worcej/Tom Bombadil. There are no save claims. We already had a scum read on him.

Alternative possibilities are:
1) ghug was saved, but got shot before he could speak (unlikely, he spoke at the turn of night)
2) whoever commuted was shot, and doesn't know they narrowly missed death
3) Vecna is lying

All seems pretty unlikely, so good enough in my eyes.

I see. Yeah that's pretty close to a "gotcha" because I don't think Vecna is scum so I'd rule out option 3.

Option 2 is possible.

I would like to hear from Tom Bomb but as it stands he's up for execution tomorrow.

Another way Tom could be town is if the NK target was 3p.

But the fact Vecna RBd Tom (and Tom says he was RBd) and there was no NK just means the likelihood of Tom being scum is a fair bit higher than any other player. Also his silence since is not good.

In the absence of anything else coming to light Tom has to be 2m's kill.

[damo666]

So is No-Kill the preferred vote for today? Damo had a pretty reasonable vote suggestion but I guess that all fell apart when the spinach was activated.

Yes No Kill is the way to go.

Unless you're scum then please vote for Macca.

[damo666]

Where's fishy?

[Hamilton Brian]

##Vote No-Kill

[snowy801]

Don't all vote no-kill yet, that'll end the day.

Is there anything we need to wrap up before adjudicating? I imagine we can at least give people time to pass around items, if they haven't yet.

[snowy801]

Another way Tom could be town is if the NK target was 3p.

But the fact Vecna RBd Tom (and Tom says he was RBd) and there was no NK just means the likelihood of Tom being scum is a fair bit higher than any other player. Also his silence since is not good.

In the absence of anything else coming to light Tom has to be 2m's kill.

Ah yes, possible. I would hope that if we were to successfully catch all scum, the last one would reveal any knowledge they collectively had on 3P (from a purely utilitarian point of view, 12 > 1) but I suppose that's up to them.

From a pure chance perspective random kill on commute/3P assuming commute was active at 1-(10/11*10/11) is... actually higher than I expected. 17%, eh?

Still think it's Tom though.

[Chaqa]

##CALL GM

Is the tortilla chip active during the day as well as at night, should the user be happen to be killed during the day?

The tortilla shield protects against night-kills and potential day-kill shots from the Steak, but does not protect against the normal procedural day-kill. "Kill attempt" I thought was clear enough, but I will add a clarification to the document.

[Chaqa]

@GM

what is the adjudication order wrt giving, stealing, saving please.

Could you clarify your question?

[snowy801]

Well, this is going to be a zzz day so I'm going to check out for a while.

1) If you intend to send your items remember to do so
2) Don't hammer, 7 no-kills is a hammer. Unvote if you expect to be around near EoD, vote if you do not, and people who are around will take care of the rest
3) Put your thinking caps on for D4

[damo666]

@GM

what is the adjudication order wrt giving, stealing, saving please.

Could you clarify your question?

1. A donates item to B but 3rd party steals item. Where does it end up?
2. C uses item but 3rd part steals it. Does the item use have effect or is the steal first?