Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[thamrick]

I don't have a solution on the herb, but having the herb does not make lfischl town, and I think the herb risks outing PRs even in the hands of a townie. But I mostly think that since it's time-limited (only works if he's killed in the next two phases after taking it) it won't be an issue at all.

That said, Thamrick and Maniac are lurking and one of them should be the target of the herb if it gets used.

So lfischl claimed herb? If you feel the need to herb me that's fine. I'll likely be able to be more involved this upcoming week anyways.

[thamrick]

Are you going to make a vote now, or run the risk of being modkilled if you can't make it back for EOD?

I have voted?

Your vote is currently on an un-cc'ed Deputy claimant.

Are you going to counter or dispute his claim? Or, are you going to move your vote?

##UNVOTE

Didn't see the deputy claim.

[thamrick]

Is the lfischl wagon just people who want to flip him to use the herb or is it legit? I'd prefer the Foxcastle wagon over lfischl right now

[Foxcastle]

The votes on me are pathetic.

Rdrivera, your reasoning is especially flimsy. You're voting me because I got irate at one thing (that I have been harping on game after game) versus another thing (that I don't have an emotional reaction about—if you want a temper tantrum about PRs claiming too soon, go find Jamie). If this wasn't so lame, it'd be scummy, but at least if you just said "gut feeling," that would be less scummy.

Maniac thinks because I sat on the Jasnah wagon EOD1 that must mean I'm scum. "I would never do that as scum" is one of the weakest defenses a player can make, but seriously, if I was scum, there's no way I'd leave my ass hanging out like that when I had every opportunity to move to Jamie or Chaqa. Especially knowing that the only other person sitting on the Jasnah wagon with me was likely to flip, there's no way I would have sat there like that as scum and made myself a very obvious target for VCA later on.

Weak: Jasnah sheeping Maniac on this.

Weaker: ghug sheeping jasnah sheeping Maniac.

[Foxcastle]

I don't have a solution on the herb, but having the herb does not make lfischl town, and I think the herb risks outing PRs even in the hands of a townie. But I mostly think that since it's time-limited (only works if he's killed in the next two phases after taking it) it won't be an issue at all.

That said, Thamrick and Maniac are lurking and one of them should be the target of the herb if it gets used.

So lfischl claimed herb? If you feel the need to herb me that's fine. I'll likely be able to be more involved this upcoming week anyways.

I'm taking you at your word that you're just busy—it's unsportsmanlike not to—but that doesn't mean you're not scum and that doesn't change the fact that lurking is anti-town.

[Jamiet99uk]

Is the lfischl wagon just people who want to flip him to use the herb or is it legit? I'd prefer the Foxcastle wagon over lfischl right now

Lfischl's response to Bonatogether claiming was to attempt to endhammer him. Lfischl has also claimed not-Deputy.

The attempted endhammer is therefore egregiously scummy.

[Vecna]

now for the townie peoples from most to less most

jamie
macca
bona
vecna
celaph
jasnah

all the rest are weaker reads that i could see going either way

also since my entirely accurate scumlist is only half full id say maniac, foxc and worcej can fill the remaining three spots for now, in that order, but its not strong

Are you just literally copying my reads now?

what-what-what?

are you really so full of yourself as to think my game revolves around you?
jamie and bona are not something anybody will protest against at this point

macca claiming a guilty on jamie is play i would not even remotely respect from scum!macca, and i am very confident in this

i dont think many people would argue with the jasnah read, apart from a few posts n2 that didnt feel right she has been playing a very townie game

celaph just feels right, hes questioning well and gives off townie vibes

and you have made your self-proclaimed townslip among actually doing analysis and what looks like hunting

i have my reasons, and they dont revolve around "oh hey lets sheep vecna on everything because he is clearly the only player of worth"

I like this reply

[brainbomb]

I don't have a solution on the herb, but having the herb does not make lfischl town, and I think the herb risks outing PRs even in the hands of a townie. But I mostly think that since it's time-limited (only works if he's killed in the next two phases after taking it) it won't be an issue at all.

That said, Thamrick and Maniac are lurking and one of them should be the target of the herb if it gets used.

So lfischl claimed herb? If you feel the need to herb me that's fine. I'll likely be able to be more involved this upcoming week anyways.

So if we flip you, youre a role the mafia has no interest in killing? or ability to kill?
did you just imply youll be surviving all week

[brainbomb]

##vote damo

[jasnah]

I don't have a solution on the herb, but having the herb does not make lfischl town, and I think the herb risks outing PRs even in the hands of a townie. But I mostly think that since it's time-limited (only works if he's killed in the next two phases after taking it) it won't be an issue at all.

That said, Thamrick and Maniac are lurking and one of them should be the target of the herb if it gets used.

So lfischl claimed herb? If you feel the need to herb me that's fine. I'll likely be able to be more involved this upcoming week anyways.

So if we flip you, youre a role the mafia has no interest in killing? or ability to kill?
did you just imply youll be surviving all week

All votes on thamrick guys. Non participating town who's outed as vt claim for no reason is worthless. Wagon him

[BobMcBob]

I don't have a solution on the herb, but having the herb does not make lfischl town, and I think the herb risks outing PRs even in the hands of a townie. But I mostly think that since it's time-limited (only works if he's killed in the next two phases after taking it) it won't be an issue at all.

That said, Thamrick and Maniac are lurking and one of them should be the target of the herb if it gets used.

So lfischl claimed herb? If you feel the need to herb me that's fine. I'll likely be able to be more involved this upcoming week anyways.

So if we flip you, youre a role the mafia has no interest in killing? or ability to kill?
did you just imply youll be surviving all week

i highly doubt thats what he meant by being able to be more active in the upcoming week

[Vecna]

Ghug and Bunny are still getting nowhere near enough attention

[brainbomb]

Ghug and Bunny are still getting nowhere near enough attention

we could put on a puppet show for them?

[Vecna]

and brainbomb is still on that chaos tangent that he called me out for last mini game

[brainbomb]

and brainbomb is still on that chaos tangent that he called me out for last mini game

my viewers are counting on me nils

[ghug]

The votes on me are pathetic.

Rdrivera, your reasoning is especially flimsy. You're voting me because I got irate at one thing (that I have been harping on game after game) versus another thing (that I don't have an emotional reaction about—if you want a temper tantrum about PRs claiming too soon, go find Jamie). If this wasn't so lame, it'd be scummy, but at least if you just said "gut feeling," that would be less scummy.

Maniac thinks because I sat on the Jasnah wagon EOD1 that must mean I'm scum. "I would never do that as scum" is one of the weakest defenses a player can make, but seriously, if I was scum, there's no way I'd leave my ass hanging out like that when I had every opportunity to move to Jamie or Chaqa. Especially knowing that the only other person sitting on the Jasnah wagon with me was likely to flip, there's no way I would have sat there like that as scum and made myself a very obvious target for VCA later on.

Weak: Jasnah sheeping Maniac on this.

Weaker: ghug sheeping jasnah sheeping Maniac.

I called you scum day 1, and only backed off because I thought jasnah was scum and that made you look good. I ain't sheeping no one.

[brainbomb]

BunnyGo is now cybering Uclabb

I don’t know what this means. And I’m glad. EMC, please don’t explain it.

this is interesting

[Foxcastle]

The votes on me are pathetic.

Rdrivera, your reasoning is especially flimsy. You're voting me because I got irate at one thing (that I have been harping on game after game) versus another thing (that I don't have an emotional reaction about—if you want a temper tantrum about PRs claiming too soon, go find Jamie). If this wasn't so lame, it'd be scummy, but at least if you just said "gut feeling," that would be less scummy.

Maniac thinks because I sat on the Jasnah wagon EOD1 that must mean I'm scum. "I would never do that as scum" is one of the weakest defenses a player can make, but seriously, if I was scum, there's no way I'd leave my ass hanging out like that when I had every opportunity to move to Jamie or Chaqa. Especially knowing that the only other person sitting on the Jasnah wagon with me was likely to flip, there's no way I would have sat there like that as scum and made myself a very obvious target for VCA later on.

Weak: Jasnah sheeping Maniac on this.

Weaker: ghug sheeping jasnah sheeping Maniac.

I called you scum day 1, and only backed off because I thought jasnah was scum and that made you look good. I ain't sheeping no one.

When you voted me, you referenced Jasnah, so I mistook that as your reasoning.

And your initial "scum read" of me on D1 looked more like a joke:

@Foxcastle If the "interaction", to use a charitable term, brain bomb and Bona have displayed with my previous messages is any indication, mediocrity is being pretty generous. I'm a nice person like that

What's your experience with forum Mafia?

Foxcastle scum confirmed.

And your vote now looks like even more of a joke considering that the only other times you've mentioned me was: 1) an actual joke post, 2) your N1 rundown of the different EOD1 scenarios, which now looks pretty clearly like "a TvTvT waste," as you put it, and so there's no actually useful commentary there, and 3) pushing back on my assertion that EON reads are a good thing.

If you were sheeping Jasnah, that would have at least been an interesting path (for you) onto the mediocre vote you're casting now.

[brainbomb]

I declare you wrong.

Strictly speaking, odds are you're mafia. This is such a clean excuse for you to survive a few nks. I call bs

So, Jamiet is probably a town PR. But hey, maybe you're right! (You are not, but maybe!)

So, in either case, the best thing for you to do right now is go find another scum. Jamiet will still be here later on if you still feel the need to push him for the DK, but we're not in a good enough position where we can afford to fixate on him.

Lol
this is too ridiculous

[Jamiet99uk]

So lfischl claimed herb? If you feel the need to herb me that's fine. I'll likely be able to be more involved this upcoming week anyways.

So if we flip you, youre a role the mafia has no interest in killing? or ability to kill?
did you just imply youll be surviving all week

All votes on thamrick guys. Non participating town who's outed as vt claim for no reason is worthless. Wagon him

You want to kill Thamrick because he's a VT?