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Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2901 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:14 am

I vaguely remember scum!Damo as risk averse.

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#2902 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:21 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:08 am
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:04 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:02 am
I feel like Bozo is not properly considering the implication of the hammer vote in him.

With 6 of us left, does it take 3 to hammer, or 4?
There's only five of us left, so three.
Ah, thank you.

Okay, so at least one scum in Damo/Bozo. That helps a lot.
Considering the fact that damo hammered and apparently left, I think the probability that he is mafia is very high, with a slight possibility he did not realize how bad his play was as town. Since you, Chaqa, and rdrivera all posted with a short period of time, any other mafia combination would have had the chance to end the game.

##VOTE damo

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#2903 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:22 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:21 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:08 am
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:04 am


There's only five of us left, so three.
Ah, thank you.

Okay, so at least one scum in Damo/Bozo. That helps a lot.
Considering the fact that damo hammered and apparently left, I think the probability that he is mafia is very high, with a slight possibility he did not realize how bad his play was as town. Since you, Chaqa, and rdrivera all posted with a short period of time, any other mafia combination would have had the chance to end the game.

##VOTE damo
Could you review my last few posts and run it through your algorithms or w/e you use? I feel like the optimal vote here is Balki since he's the likely partner for both of you.

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#2904 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:29 am

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:22 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:21 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:08 am

Ah, thank you.

Okay, so at least one scum in Damo/Bozo. That helps a lot.
Considering the fact that damo hammered and apparently left, I think the probability that he is mafia is very high, with a slight possibility he did not realize how bad his play was as town. Since you, Chaqa, and rdrivera all posted with a short period of time, any other mafia combination would have had the chance to end the game.

##VOTE damo
Could you review my last few posts and run it through your algorithms or w/e you use? I feel like the optimal vote here is Balki since he's the likely partner for both of you.
Based on your analysis, you and Balki are equally likely to be mafia.

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#2905 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:32 am

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:11 am
This leaves:
Bozo-Chaqa
Bozo-Balki
Bozo-Rivera
Damo-Chaqa
Damo-Balki
Damo-Rivera

As the possible scumteams.

Someone check my work.
Nobody needs to check your work. You can look at my more succinct work up above.

At least one Scum in Bozo/Damo.

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#2906 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:34 am

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:22 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:21 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:08 am

Ah, thank you.

Okay, so at least one scum in Damo/Bozo. That helps a lot.
Considering the fact that damo hammered and apparently left, I think the probability that he is mafia is very high, with a slight possibility he did not realize how bad his play was as town. Since you, Chaqa, and rdrivera all posted with a short period of time, any other mafia combination would have had the chance to end the game.

##VOTE damo
Could you review my last few posts and run it through your algorithms or w/e you use? I feel like the optimal vote here is Balki since he's the likely partner for both of you.
We know there is AT LEAST one scum in Bozo/Damo, so you want to vote for me?

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#2907 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:38 am

I do not think damo as town would incorrectly come to the conclusion that BunnyGo had indicated he had a scan on me, or that he would take the game into his own hands by hammering. damo must have thought that BunnyGo flipping tracker would make me look bad and thought he could get the mis-kill, and did not realize the implication of his end vote.

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#2908 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:40 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:34 am
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:22 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:21 am


Considering the fact that damo hammered and apparently left, I think the probability that he is mafia is very high, with a slight possibility he did not realize how bad his play was as town. Since you, Chaqa, and rdrivera all posted with a short period of time, any other mafia combination would have had the chance to end the game.

##VOTE damo
Could you review my last few posts and run it through your algorithms or w/e you use? I feel like the optimal vote here is Balki since he's the likely partner for both of you.
We know there is AT LEAST one scum in Bozo/Damo, so you want to vote for me?
I'm town. I believe Rivera to be town. I don't believe Damo-Bozo makes sense as a pair based on voting patterns.

You are the partner either way.

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#2909 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:41 am

I think anyone would be hard pressed to make a serious case for Chaqa-Damo or Chaqa-Balki pairings.

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#2910 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:43 am

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:41 am
I think anyone would be hard pressed to make a serious case for Chaqa-Damo or Chaqa-Balki pairings.
How about Chaqa/Bozo?

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#2911 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:46 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:32 am
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:11 am
This leaves:
Bozo-Chaqa
Bozo-Balki
Bozo-Rivera
Damo-Chaqa
Damo-Balki
Damo-Rivera

As the possible scumteams.

Someone check my work.
Nobody needs to check your work. You can look at my more succinct work up above.

At least one Scum in Bozo/Damo.
Not that I think damo is town, but why are you discounting the possibility that 2 other mafia, Chaqa and rdrivera from your perspective, have not hammered yet because they can't be sure when the other will leave or damo will come back?

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#2912 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:50 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:43 am
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:41 am
I think anyone would be hard pressed to make a serious case for Chaqa-Damo or Chaqa-Balki pairings.
How about Chaqa/Bozo?
I think that's a much more reasonable pairing.

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#2913 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:52 am

damo666 wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:08 am
I really wish Balki hadn't made either of his suggestions.

My head aches.

I'll deal with no kill in a separate post.

With regard to the lock vote I haven't exhaustively gone through all possible sequences looking at optimal strategies and possibilities but on what have done I think it is advantageous to scum.

In fact I propose that game day tomorrow we agree that nobody will end vote and if anybody does we simply vote them .
Considering this post, damo would have understood the implications of his end vote. He has essentially forcibly implemented the exact thing he was supposedly strongly opposed to.

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#2914 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:56 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:52 am
damo666 wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:08 am
I really wish Balki hadn't made either of his suggestions.

My head aches.

I'll deal with no kill in a separate post.

With regard to the lock vote I haven't exhaustively gone through all possible sequences looking at optimal strategies and possibilities but on what have done I think it is advantageous to scum.

In fact I propose that game day tomorrow we agree that nobody will end vote and if anybody does we simply vote them .
Considering this post, damo would have understood the implications of his end vote. He has essentially forcibly implemented the exact thing he was supposedly strongly opposed to.
Man, Damo's jokes are much too advanced for me.

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#2915 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:20 am

Okay, nobody do anything rash today please. The Bozo/Dame cross gives us still more info. Almost certainly one is Scum.

It almost looked to me like Bunny might have had a clean track on Damo (not sure about that). Obviously that wouldn’t be conclusive even if it’s true, as Scum!Damo would not have to make a visit. All the same, I am feeling pretty strong feelings that Bozo is a hit.

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#2916 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:41 am

It would have had to be on Night 3 or 4. I'll look at it tomorrow.

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#2917 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:16 am

##unend

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#2918 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:22 am

Sorry, ending was a mistake. I was a bit pissed and didn't think it through and had forgotten my 'kill the ender' theory.

However, as the game is not finished I know Bozo is scum. I realise the other two townies don't, they just have to trust me.

Chaqa"s reaction looks quite town so I am kinda 85% Balki 13% Chaqa 2%rdr.

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#2919 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:26 am

I also understand that from an outside pov it could be an elaborate ploy by me and Bozo but I'm not that good! I would need to have been bussing for days.

I am not moving my vote as I have a guilty.

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#2920 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:28 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:20 am
Okay, nobody do anything rash today please. The Bozo/Dame cross gives us still more info. Almost certainly one is Scum.

It almost looked to me like Bunny might have had a clean track on Damo (not sure about that). Obviously that wouldn’t be conclusive even if it’s true, as Scum!Damo would not have to make a visit. All the same, I am feeling pretty strong feelings that Bozo is a hit.
Balki signalling to Bozo that he has no choice. He has to bus.

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