M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

[BunnyGo]

could it be.......... a town slip??

[Durga]

What about vecna's D1 felt good to you?

So voting Sabi is a parlay for you? Either she's scum, or she's town you don't want at KiLo?

his vote on kak i guess? hoenstly i don't feel great about it but at least he voted kak

sabi is they/them

also, more or less yeah, like we don't know about uber at all and sabi def won't be putting in the effort end game, they have 6 posts today......... so whatever it is they are not a person i want alive at the end

I don't disagree with any of this. But I'm not sure I see scum!sabi as able to lurk this long and well; so I'm worried it's less of a parlay and more of a stall tactic. The model I have for them in my mind would make them jumpier than that when trying to deceive. But you them better than I do; when playing diplomacy, I get the impression they is very honest. What do they do when there's a confrontation?

i think they usually cry but this game is inherently different from diplomacy

[Durga]

Real reason I came back is to say I tried falling asleep and was struck with the sudden fear that Death was actually scum.

I know Durga talked about liking Vanilla games, but this is STRESSFUL. I like knowing there's someone I can know is safe

i love this

[Durga]

ready for f3 to be me - bunny - DL

kill me now

##end

[BunnyGo]

Real reason I came back is to say I tried falling asleep and was struck with the sudden fear that Death was actually scum.

I know Durga talked about liking Vanilla games, but this is STRESSFUL. I like knowing there's someone I can know is safe

I've been waking up every morning with dreams that I found the killer scum slip somewhere. Only last night it was damo scum slipping, so I woke up in confusion that I'd totally misunderstood the game.

These are the first dreams I've remembered in months.

[Durga]

anyway this might actually be as simple as sabi being scum

[Durga]

okay thats enough thinking good night i'm growing really fond of you all <3 <3 <3

who needs a partner when you can say goodnight to your fellow mafia players

[Durga]

Also can we actually end so that we can speed up night and not play the game over the weekend

[BesharamSabi]

his vote on kak i guess? hoenstly i don't feel great about it but at least he voted kak

sabi is they/them

also, more or less yeah, like we don't know about uber at all and sabi def won't be putting in the effort end game, they have 6 posts today......... so whatever it is they are not a person i want alive at the end

I don't disagree with any of this. But I'm not sure I see scum!sabi as able to lurk this long and well; so I'm worried it's less of a parlay and more of a stall tactic. The model I have for them in my mind would make them jumpier than that when trying to deceive. But you them better than I do; when playing diplomacy, I get the impression they is very honest. What do they do when there's a confrontation?

i think they usually cry but this game is inherently different from diplomacy

I don't cry during diplomacy.

Also sorry I haven't posted much today. I'm in two press games and doing nexus stuff on the side so I'm quite busy with that.

I get that I haven't been very active in this game. Honestly I'm sorry.

##VOTE death idk just throwing that out there.

[BesharamSabi]

I think I have only cried like less than 5 times during diplomacy and it's usually last rounds of tournaments or if some guy is yelling at me and making me feel like an idiot.

[BesharamSabi]

anyway this might actually be as simple as sabi being scum

Surprisingly I'm not scum. I dunno what else to say. Watch what happens when yall day kill me I guess.

[DeathLlama8]

hi sabi
1. why are you voting me?
2. why shouldn't we kill you? we only have one more miskill so if we miskill you it's actually really bad

[DeathLlama8]

those latest posts from doom are incredibly towny. guess I'll reread bunny first

[DeathLlama8]

bunny notes
+ on reread, the only thing vecna did d1 that could be alignment indicative is voting kakarroto
• wow i forgot how bad the ghug case was
• keep tunnelling me if I'm wrong ig but I think a lot of my immediate scum vibes that come from bunny are just because we have different playstyles (he focuses more on behavior patterns)
+ is mechanistically wrong on tracker in a way that feels genuine? like there's no clear scum reason to pursue the line of questioning he does early d3 (tracker is negative utility PR) but I think scum would've talked that out by now
@bunny - why did you discuss the whole ghug-TFB connection so openly d3?
+ gives up a pretty strong rdr read (admittedly based on a fake scumslip) to follow damo, who he had previously shown no indication of wanting to follow, onto jamiet. Rdr was also still a pretty viable wagon at the time? Could be bussing I guess but wouldn't he want to get more credit out of it. At worst NAI, I don't buy the earlier argument that this is a clear bus
@bunny - "Much of it is research/rereads, which is easy to just do as town or scum with time." do you think this has been my style, and what kind of styles do you think are harder to fake?
@bunny - can you explain the evolution of your read on rdr starting like n3? how important did the scumslip end up being to your final decision?

I think the main thing that's pinging me is that it does genuinely seem like bunny's been less interested in solving the game starting from when he subbed to now, but it's hard to extricate that from his RL lack of free time. The push on Ghug is weird but attributable to a different playstyle, and I think the jamiet vote buys him at least a way to KILO.

still happy to stay on sabi for now.

[DeathLlama8]

we're not ending before tomorrow morning so does hammering even speed up the timeline

[DeathLlama8]

honestly I vaguely townread everyone else in the game so tomorrow's going to suck if I'm alive

[DeathLlama8]

at least half my reads are right though so that's pretty good accuracy (hides recall)

[DeathLlama8]

You've played with DL before? Tell me about him, please. My guess is something like: precocious kid

sure

grows up to be the smartest player in the room most of the time

haven't played in five years

Knows good ways to play

haven't played in five years

and isn't afraid to back his gut as town or scum

lmao what about the last week of this game has made you think this?

[DeathLlama8]

I remember jamiet posting a few paragraphs on why it was good lfischl was dead during n1 so in hindsight I guess it is weird that he didn't really mention lfischl during the day (relative to uber)

[DeathLlama8]

maybe confbiasing a little but my impression is that sabi votes very quickly when they look like a DK target but otherwise kinda just forgets to vote