MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote President Eden

He scumclaimed.

[Bonatogether]

Ooh shit I forgot we changed the standstill rule.

Scum have to shoot don’t they?

No kill is just correct here

but we can kill scum

killing scum is never wrong

[President Eden]

I think the rush of end votes speaks for itself.

Mafia thought they had it.

Tbh I’m finding myself believing Bona much more than you

eden i think i was wrong when i said under on how many times he'd flip

I'm pretty sure he hit the over just D3

[Jamiet99uk]

##End

[Bonatogether]

Yeah that's possible. But would scum save Strongman to N3? I think the Drive is more likely.

Why wouldn't Mafia save Strongman? Shouldn't they save it for when they know they are targeting a role, particularly the vanilla cop?

Maybe but I tend to think with powers use it before you lose it.

However Bona tracked Eden to you so Eden can't be Strongman if Strongman targeted Dousing. So Eden would have to be rolecop.

yeah damo gets it

[President Eden]

ghug was right, we punish these plays waaaay too hard.

sad

in fairness it's kind of a massive L that I tried this in a world where Jamie and rdr are on my team

[President Eden]

I don't mean that as an insult to be clear

it's a fair philosophy and I had full notice of it and knew the risks

just sucks that it ends like this

[Bonatogether]

Are you saying "no" to both questions?

the second one

[Jamiet99uk]

PE advocated for a specific EoN play and then ducked out of it.

Someone tell me how he isn't outed scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

ghug was right, we punish these plays waaaay too hard.

sad

in fairness it's kind of a massive L that I tried this in a world where Jamie and rdr are on my team

Could you explain yourself, please?

Why do you think you have a licence to be a prick?

[Foxcastle]

##CallGM: If the Bodyguard protects someone but the kill is Strongmanned, does the Bodyguard still die in addition to the target?

No. "If your target is the target of any killing action, you will protect them and die in their place EXCEPT if the kill was modified with a Strongman action (in which case you will live and your target will die)."

[President Eden]

PE advocated for a specific EoN play and then ducked out of it.

Someone tell me how he isn't outed scum?

did you read my explanation? because I did tell you how

[Bonatogether]

So you are saying that you tracked Eden to me? Other than me lying, is there any explanation for me to not receive a PM that I was role blocked?

no

Could you elaborate? Are you saying no to both questions? Can you please confirm definitively that you tracked Eden to sweetandcool last night?

the pm i received said eden visited sweetandcool

i believe he is role cop visiting you, a fellow scum member, in an attempt to kick up dust

i think it's fair to say there's no more prs out there (mafia knows this definitely), so they can just say fuck it with regards to the role cop in order to fuck with me because i'm tracker

[Bonatogether]

i'm not inclined to wait the full 48 if really everyone is going to dogpile on eden like this

is there any other wagon that's going to happen?

[President Eden]

ghug was right, we punish these plays waaaay too hard.

sad

in fairness it's kind of a massive L that I tried this in a world where Jamie and rdr are on my team

Could you explain yourself, please?

Why do you think you have a licence to be a prick?

I don't mean it that way man. I'm saying that I shouldn't have gambled if I believed you and rdr to be town because I know you guys play conservatively and punish these plays all the time. I think your approach is completely fair I'm just bummed that I can't seem to dissuade you guys from it just this once

[Jamiet99uk]

PE advocated for a specific EoN play and then ducked out of it.

Someone tell me how he isn't outed scum?

did you read my explanation? because I did tell you how

You roleblocked Damo because of some concern about Dousing not being around?

I'm not sure I understand your shit.

[Jamiet99uk]

I am very confused.

Someone fucking talk to me.

##Unvote.

[President Eden]

PE advocated for a specific EoN play and then ducked out of it.

Someone tell me how he isn't outed scum?

did you read my explanation? because I did tell you how

You roleblocked Damo because of some concern about Dousing not being around?

I'm not sure I understand your shit.

Dousing never showed up to name a person to target.

The entirety of the comments about the target consisted of:
- you volunteering to be roleblocked
- two other people (idr who) effectively saying "sure that's fine" without much conviction behind it (imo)

I didn't get the sense anyone had really thought about it. We all thought Dousing would return and name someone.

So as I sat around waiting and getting essentially no guidance from the collective town and nothing at all from Dousing, I figured I was gonna have to make the call myself, and decided I was going to just try to block the kill instead because it was the strongest move. If I missed, I was vaguely hoping that if I explained myself thoroughly that I could help y'all see my side of it afterward.

In retrospect I should have recognized that the temperament of the town I believed I was dealing with was too conservative for that play and I shouldn't have gone for it.

I understand if it's too late now I'm just bummed over it.

[Foxcastle]

##GM CALL

If bodyguard loses their power due to Strongman kill, do they get informed by GM in?

Or is it their responsibility to deduce what happened?

##GM NOTE: If the Bodyguard attempts to protect a player and the Strongman is used on that player, the Bodyguard survives and is notified that their protection failed.

[Jamiet99uk]

There it is.

I will vote any of Bona, s&c, or damo today.

I will not vote anyone else.

Chaqa, rdr, Jamie, bozo: anything at all you want answered, I’m your guy.

Ok: WHY DID YOU ROLEBLOCK DAMO DESPITE THIS BEING AT ODDS WITH YOUR STRATEGY?

PLEASE ANSWER THE WHOLE QUESTION.