MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2821 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:00 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:57 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:55 pm
Last game every time I remotely mentioned possibly scumreading you you jumped down my throat and needled me about it to get as much detail as possible, and you did it to everyone else in that game too.


Now you're getting voted by multiple people and still completely ignoring it? What gives?
If I start now it looks like I'm only doing it because of you saying this. I agree that I'm playing differently, but that doesn't mean anything like what you're suggesting.
That didn't stop you scumreading everyone you'd left off your first reads list when I pointed out that you'd townread everyone on the first one.

And avoiding conflict with people is absolutely not what I would expect from you here.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2822 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:01 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:59 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:58 pm
President Eden wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:56 pm

I buy his RL excuse and I'm alarmed by you and rivera dropping your suspicions of each other without much pressing or notice to both jump him.
I'd go as far to say that it was scum theater.
Hmmm. Where did bona learn this term from?

Someone coaching him in the mafia QT?
It was thrown around a ton last game.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2823 Post by President Eden » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:01 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:58 pm
Anyway, ##Vote e.m.c^42

I'll explain later, but tldr his sheep on my Eden wagon was weird as hell. Time to go pick up a puppy!
Post pics in Discord :smiling_face_with_3_hearts:

I was wondering when one of you might do this. I'll meme it into existence.

##VOTE e.m.c^42

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2824 Post by President Eden » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:02 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:59 pm
President Eden wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:55 pm
##VOTE Hellenic Riot

I'm still weirded out by the fact that they were gunning for each other day 1, and they carried it into day 2, but now they're both on Bona, and HR hasn't even mentioned anything about rivera after I asked while rivera now townreads HR based on posts that he didn't specify at the time.
I specifically said I still scumread HR, just not as much as before. Are you reading the answers I gave you or you are just asking for the sake of asking?
We are cross-posting again so I will just observe as much.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2825 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:02 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:57 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:51 pm
I don't get the impression you've read anything I've posted, Flum, so getting me feels all too much like you're just concerned I scumread Durga rather than that you have any belief whatsoever that I'm actually scum.
To be fair though, my most accurate towngame was the one I was a ghost and didn't read anything.
damo666 wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:50 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:48 pm
Actually nm, I read his iso ##Unvote

I think we should kill HB or HR tbh
What about Hworcej?
I get potential scum vibes from him for being much more placating than normal, but I also think it could just be him trying to be nicer to help resolve prior drama. I don't really want to vote him.
ND replacing out is completely null. In mafia 20, a game I run, he really really didn't want to be scum again, but he rolled it and stuck through it until the end, so he's not the type to replace out because he didn't want to be scum.
If you aren't going to actually read the EoD you think I'm scum because of then I'm not even going to interact with this shit

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2826 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:02 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:00 pm
That didn't stop you scumreading everyone you'd left off your first reads list when I pointed out that you'd townread everyone on the first one.
I did not townread everyone on the first list. You know this, since you spent some time looking at it.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2827 Post by Vecna » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:03 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:51 pm
I don't get the impression you've read anything I've posted, Flum, so getting me feels all too much like you're just concerned I scumread Durga rather than that you have any belief whatsoever that I'm actually scum.
Hmm, I should probably read up on your reasons behind this. My initial gut on the slot also was really iffy.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2828 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:03 pm

President Eden wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:01 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:58 pm
Anyway, ##Vote e.m.c^42

I'll explain later, but tldr his sheep on my Eden wagon was weird as hell. Time to go pick up a puppy!
Post pics in Discord :smiling_face_with_3_hearts:

I was wondering when one of you might do this. I'll meme it into existence.

##VOTE e.m.c^42
This puts worcej in the lead. Important for VCA later.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2829 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:04 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:58 pm
Anyway, ##Vote e.m.c^42

I'll explain later, but tldr his sheep on my Eden wagon was weird as hell. Time to go pick up a puppy!
His reason for voting HR yesterday was very weird as well.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2830 Post by Vecna » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:04 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:53 pm
Vecna wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:45 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:39 pm
I suppose there is some validity in flipping worcej for more info on Day 1, but i'm not sure I'm there yet.

I have a lingering suspicion EMC is scum, also.
talk to me about this
Which part?
The juicy part, obviously

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2831 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:05 pm

President Eden wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:01 pm


I was wondering when one of you might do this. I'll meme it into existence.

##VOTE e.m.c^42
Hmmm, interesting. That particular post from EMC didn't stand out to me.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2832 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:05 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:02 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:00 pm
That didn't stop you scumreading everyone you'd left off your first reads list when I pointed out that you'd townread everyone on the first one.
I did not townread everyone on the first list. You know this, since you spent some time looking at it.
You scumread one person out of about 15, and townread almost everyone else. You openly admitted you were working down the highest post count list. And then you scumread everyone else on the second list after I called out the massive amount of townreads you'd given.


In fact, @President Eden

Do you not think it's somewhat weird that despite Bona being very busy with RL stuff, he managed to have a read on every single player in the game by the start of D2 in the first place?

Go back and read his two reads posts and then tell me whether you buy them.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2833 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:07 pm

President Eden wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:01 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:58 pm
Anyway, ##Vote e.m.c^42

I'll explain later, but tldr his sheep on my Eden wagon was weird as hell. Time to go pick up a puppy!
Post pics in Discord :smiling_face_with_3_hearts:

I was wondering when one of you might do this. I'll meme it into existence.

##VOTE e.m.c^42
Your vote was only on HR for six minutes. You have moved your vote 10 times today. Are you attempting to imitate Brainbomb or is there another reason you are jumping around so much?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2834 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:08 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:05 pm
You scumread one person out of about 15, and townread almost everyone else. You openly admitted you were working down the highest post count list. And then you scumread everyone else on the second list after I called out the massive amount of townreads you'd given.


In fact, @President Eden

Do you not think it's somewhat weird that despite Bona being very busy with RL stuff, he managed to have a read on every single player in the game by the start of D2 in the first place?

Go back and read his two reads posts and then tell me whether you buy them.
A crappy reads post does not scum make. None of the behavior you are describing is indicative of anything in any way. I have addressed your points repeatedly and there is no reason for you to continue this ludicrous scumread.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2835 Post by President Eden » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:09 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:05 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:02 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:00 pm
That didn't stop you scumreading everyone you'd left off your first reads list when I pointed out that you'd townread everyone on the first one.
I did not townread everyone on the first list. You know this, since you spent some time looking at it.
Do you not think it's somewhat weird that despite Bona being very busy with RL stuff, he managed to have a read on every single player in the game by the start of D2 in the first place?

Go back and read his two reads posts and then tell me whether you buy them.
I'll compare to M62 later on today. For what it's worth I recall not really liking his celaph read, but thinking that Bona was town for it. But I'll give it another look and specifically compare it to M62 behavior.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2836 Post by President Eden » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:09 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:07 pm
President Eden wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:01 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:58 pm
Anyway, ##Vote e.m.c^42

I'll explain later, but tldr his sheep on my Eden wagon was weird as hell. Time to go pick up a puppy!
Post pics in Discord :smiling_face_with_3_hearts:

I was wondering when one of you might do this. I'll meme it into existence.

##VOTE e.m.c^42
Your vote was only on HR for six minutes. You have moved your vote 10 times today. Are you attempting to imitate Brainbomb or is there another reason you are jumping around so much?
Are you not lock clearing me for town all of a sudden or something?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2837 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:10 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:48 pm
Actually nm, I read his iso ##Unvote

I think we should kill HB or HR tbh
Why?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2838 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:10 pm

President Eden wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:09 pm
I'll compare to M62 later on today. For what it's worth I recall not really liking his celaph read, but thinking that Bona was town for it. But I'll give it another look and specifically compare it to M62 behavior.
In m62 I was a tad more active and I argued with people who scumread me more. I was vt.

Now I am less active and less argumentative. I am still vt.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2839 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:12 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:08 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:05 pm
You scumread one person out of about 15, and townread almost everyone else. You openly admitted you were working down the highest post count list. And then you scumread everyone else on the second list after I called out the massive amount of townreads you'd given.


In fact, @President Eden

Do you not think it's somewhat weird that despite Bona being very busy with RL stuff, he managed to have a read on every single player in the game by the start of D2 in the first place?

Go back and read his two reads posts and then tell me whether you buy them.
A crappy reads post does not scum make. None of the behavior you are describing is indicative of anything in any way. I have addressed your points repeatedly and there is no reason for you to continue this ludicrous scumread.
See, now you just sound like you're trying to replicate last game (and you aren't succeeding). You should be trying to question me down to the finest of details, not just decrying it as ludicrous :razz: . Why are you not bothered that multiple people (ghug, rdrivera) have agreed with me when I called you out for this in the first place?

And having a different thought process to last game can certainly be indicative of being scum, given you were town last game.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#2840 Post by President Eden » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:12 pm

President Eden wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:09 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:07 pm
President Eden wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:01 pm

Post pics in Discord :smiling_face_with_3_hearts:

I was wondering when one of you might do this. I'll meme it into existence.

##VOTE e.m.c^42
Your vote was only on HR for six minutes. You have moved your vote 10 times today. Are you attempting to imitate Brainbomb or is there another reason you are jumping around so much?
Are you not lock clearing me for town all of a sudden or something?
This was a bit more flippant than I meant to be, particularly to one of my strongest town reads.

I moved my vote around a lot to pressure people. I've worked out that I don't want to shoot ~40% of the remaining players, and there's a lot left to work through.

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