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Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:15 am
by Nephthys
Like you're seriously making this difficult for us
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:25 am
by rdrivera2005
I think he hardclaimed one way or another.
The question now is what to do with this info. I think having Ike voting on me is a good start, we can discover if he is infected or Alien without much risk of screwing the lynch and if he isn't Alien we can restrict Alien to a bunch of players if we don't have a runaway wagon.
The other way is using the heat gun or using Worcej plan again.
Or maybe someone have a better idea.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:30 am
by RagingIke297
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:25 am
I think he hardclaimed one way or another.
The question now is what to do with this info. I think having Ike voting on me is a good start, we can discover if he is infected or Alien without much risk of screwing the lynch and if he isn't Alien we can restrict Alien to a bunch of players if we don't have a runaway wagon.
The other way is using the heat gun or using Worcej plan again.
Or maybe someone have a better idea.
Should I just self vote?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:36 am
by rdrivera2005
RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:30 am
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:25 am
I think he hardclaimed one way or another.
The question now is what to do with this info. I think having Ike voting on me is a good start, we can discover if he is infected or Alien without much risk of screwing the lynch and if he isn't Alien we can restrict Alien to a bunch of players if we don't have a runaway wagon.
The other way is using the heat gun or using Worcej plan again.
Or maybe someone have a better idea.
Should I just self vote?
I thought on me because no one will probably vote me and if you vote yourself you are not lynchable....
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:51 am
by RagingIke297
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:36 am
RagingIke297 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:30 am
rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:25 am
I think he hardclaimed one way or another.
The question now is what to do with this info. I think having Ike voting on me is a good start, we can discover if he is infected or Alien without much risk of screwing the lynch and if he isn't Alien we can restrict Alien to a bunch of players if we don't have a runaway wagon.
The other way is using the heat gun or using Worcej plan again.
Or maybe someone have a better idea.
Should I just self vote?
I thought on me because no one will probably vote me and if you vote yourself you are not lynchable....
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:13 am
by bozotheclown
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:14 am
but okay:
This is what I hardclaim.
Have no clue if Ike was infected or not, all I know for sure is that he shows positive for alien DNA
Do you have a night 3 result to report?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:29 am
by Vecna
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:01 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:15 am
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:49 pm
rip yavu
there goes our alleged reverse dna kit
oh yeah, this pretty much confirms that the alien is in control of the NK I guess?
That doesn't seem likely mechs wise, but if you think that's likely then everyone who was voting for worcej should come under suspicion (rivera/Quas/Jamie/tham), since that's the only way alien should be able to get away with hiding the vote pull that should've happened---which is plausible, sure, but the only way of testing that seems to be have them each end on a separate wagon at EOD which to me seems to be a bit stupid.
it's occurred to me that it's possible worcej stole the reverse dna kit (which would explain why he didn't use any items, if he didn't get any), and so they think yavu was doc pretending to have kit/asking for advice on who to use the cleanse on through asking about it.
not completely sure how tinfoily that it tho, thoughts?
If Ike and you are telling the truth about the kill attempt and the roleblock, scum couldve at best used either the thief on N1 or the secretary power on N1. They couldve only stolen from Damo or Darg.
Its possible I guess, but it feels unlikely to me
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:38 am
by Vaporwave
oh interesting
so Ike could be ze alien or infected by him
I'm leaning more towards infected
what are we doing with him? should we hang him now or later?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:43 am
by Vaporwave
everyone with results
tell us for every night N1, N2, N3
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:31 am
by Jamiet99uk
Vaporwave wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:43 am
everyone with results
tell us for every night N1, N2, N3
I had a single use Security Scan.
I used it on Worcej N1.
On N2 I got the result that Worcej was Mafia (M-12)
I have had no other Night activity.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:40 am
by Jamiet99uk
Let's just run the numbers.
We think there was no infection on N1. Let's now presume that the Alien succeeded in infecting on N2 and N3 and let's assume both infected people are still alive:
13 players are left alive. Alien has 2 of 7 needed, and has 2 votes.
Now assume we lynch a non-infected person, and tonight a non-infected person is NKed, and the Alien successfully infects.
Tomorrow there will be 11 players left alive. Alien will have 3 of 6 needed, and will control 3 votes.
Assume the same lynch and NK and infection results.
Day after tomorrow there will be 9 players left alive. Alien will have 4 of 5 needed, and will control 4 votes.
Conclusion: It will take the Alien 4 days to win. However, we have only two lynches to catch the Alien, because after that the Alien's voting power will be difficult to overcome.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:03 pm
by e.m.c^42
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:13 am
e.m.c^42 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:14 am
but okay:
This is what I hardclaim.
Have no clue if Ike was infected or not, all I know for sure is that he shows positive for alien DNA
Do you have a night 3 result to report?
Moscow can't be the alien :)
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:05 pm
by e.m.c^42
Vecna wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:29 am
If Ike and you are telling the truth about the kill attempt and the roleblock, scum couldve at best used either the thief on N1 or the secretary power on N1. They couldve only stolen from Damo or Darg.
Its possible I guess, but it feels unlikely to me
forgot to include the possibility that it could be a scum player who randed the reverse kit in the first place; there's nothing limiting items to just town players right?
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:15 pm
by e.m.c^42
Vaporwave wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:43 am
everyone with results
tell us for every night N1, N2, N3
Neph - Negative, no alien dna
Ike - Positive, has alien dna
Moscow - Negative, no alien dna
:P
writing like this is so dry lol
i'd prefer to write it like this:
Neph and Moscow were clean,
RagingIke was green,
who to lynch?
Watch the flinch,
the answer easily seen.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:26 pm
by e.m.c^42
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:40 am
Let's just run the numbers.
We think there was no infection on N1. Let's now presume that the Alien succeeded in infecting on N2 and N3 and let's assume both infected people are still alive:
13 players are left alive. Alien has 2 of 7 needed, and has 2 votes.
Now assume we lynch a non-infected person, and tonight a non-infected person is NKed, and the Alien successfully infects.
Tomorrow there will be 11 players left alive. Alien will have 3 of 6 needed, and will control 3 votes.
Assume the same lynch and NK and infection results.
Day after tomorrow there will be 9 players left alive. Alien will have 4 of 5 needed, and will control 4 votes.
Conclusion: It will take the Alien 4 days to win. However, we have only two lynches to catch the Alien, because after that the Alien's voting power will be difficult to overcome.
Hmm, that's assuming no-one hits the alien with heat ray or (if there's any guns left) shoots them, and that we fail at finding remaining scum + scum avoid nk'ing -- as long as most people actually talk during the day I feel like we have a decent chance, even with worst-case scenario.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:29 pm
by e.m.c^42
Nephthys wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:15 am
Like you're seriously making this difficult for us
I mean, I'm already being very very obvious?
what's the difficult part lol
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:33 pm
by dargorygel
##GM NOITE
VOTE COUNT 4.1
Vaporwave (2) Nephthys, LQ
Exio (1) Jamiet
No end votes
Non-voteres: everyone else
Vaporwave is scheduled to be lynchified, if the present trend continues.
Day ends in 1 Day, 9 Hours, and 31 Minutes.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:48 pm
by Vecna
##Vote Ike
I think we we should do today (and maybe going forward for 1-2 days) is limit wagons to 3 at max, so we'll have a pretty small POE pool if we do start getting results on the alien dna leashing.
Town PR's can just tell people near EOD which players should move their vote to get the preferred wagon.
Gives us a little less info on associations, but these should be very little at this point anyway since in the worst case scenario were fighting like three third parties anyway, of which at max 1 knows the identity of one of the others.
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:15 pm
by thamrick
##VOTE Percy
Re: MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:20 pm
by Jamiet99uk
thamrick wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:15 pm
##VOTE Percy
Why Percy?
Do you town-read Ezio?